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Old 11-13-2016, 11:54 PM
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Re: Self canceling turn signals..So how DO they work?

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After 21000 views, the real answer to Self Cancel is reach down and push the button. I always do that as 10 sec or 200 - 300 meters puts me in another world in my town area. Likely to get cut off cause your signal is still on.

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They just add more weight...

I live in the country, everybody knows where I'm going, or where I'm supposed to be. So cancelling turn signals are simply a waste of copper, glass, etc, and they add weight.
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Old 12-30-2016, 01:36 AM
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Re: They just add more weight...

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I live in the country, everybody knows where I'm going, or where I'm supposed to be. So cancelling turn signals are simply a waste of copper, glass, etc, and they add weight.

That's a good one! The face of the judge to whom you'd say that will be priceless!
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Re: Self canceling turn signals..So how DO they work?

Unless I missed somebody's response, I think everyone here has gotten it all wrong. They work exactly like a cars signals. They will cancel after you turn the bars at least one full rotation in the opposite direction of original turn. I tend to favor hand signals over this.
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Re: Self canceling turn signals..So how DO they work?

Just like a car? If that is true where is the mechanism?:

Don't know for sure about them slant Ks but for every other BMW the answer is as it was from way back then.Google "BMW motorcycle introduction of self cancelling turn signals" or something like that.

Old K-bricks riders will tell you how they work.
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Re: Self canceling turn signals..So how DO they work?

They just work. I always cancel them myself. The cancel button (I've finally gotten used to the Japanese-style switch) turns my Clearwater Ericas on and off. I leave those on all the time, except for when riding in a group.

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Old 02-19-2017, 03:17 AM
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Re: Self canceling turn signals..So how DO they work?

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Unless I missed somebody's response, I think everyone here has gotten it all wrong. They work exactly like a cars signals. They will cancel after you turn the bars at least one full rotation in the opposite direction of original turn. I tend to favor hand signals over this.

That's for the old models. The new models are far more advanced and take into account so many electronic inputs. As a generic rules, once you activated the turn signal, many parameters are calculated in order to cancel the signal exactly when it's needed, not before, not after.

So, without going too technical, once they blinked one time, the kike process inputs from:
the speedometer;
the break fluid pressure;
the gyroscope;
the deported weight of the pilot on the saddle;
the sound inside the helmet (don't deny it, you also said 'shit!' in an unexpectedly tighter curve);
the pressure in the front and rear tires;
the potential ABS response;
the dB level at the exhaust;
and many others that you wouldn't understand.

After an efficient calculation of the whole thing, the bike decides to cancel the turn signal, or not...
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Re: Self canceling turn signals..So how DO they work?

!!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!

!!!THE END TO ALL THE GUESSING!!!

Next time you are at the dealer, let him set the value to max..... and they will indicate forever.
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Re: Self canceling turn signals..So how DO they work?

Ohhh, so they turn off to what your bike is set to and what ever comes first that they turn off.. the seconds or the meters traveled. But still, it was fun reading the very creative and innovative replies to this question whether in the know or not.. or better from them that didn't give a flying - saucer!
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Re: Self canceling turn signals..So how DO they work?

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!!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!

!!!THE END TO ALL THE GUESSING!!!

Next time you are at the dealer, let him set the value to max..... and they will indicate forever.

WOW! I hope the guys from HexCode see this! Maybe someday they'll put the capability to change this settings on our GS-911s!

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Re: Self canceling turn signals..So how DO they work?

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!!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!

!!!THE END TO ALL THE GUESSING!!!

Next time you are at the dealer, let him set the value to max..... and they will indicate forever.

Hey Patrique, what bike model(s) does your screen shot apply to and what are your attached shots from please?
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Re: Self canceling turn signals..So how DO they work?

It applies to all bikes that have a ZFE unit.

I know for sure its in the

K1200s,r,gt
K1300s,r,gt
GS models from 2004 upwards

So if your bike has a ZFE unit (which it probably has) then that will work for you too.

The Software is called NCS Dummy. Its part of the BMW Standard Tools Software package.

The dummy program only translates/gives you option values to be set in the ZFE. The program that rewrites the ZFE unit is NCS Expert.

This software can really screw up your bike if you don't know what you are doing......
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Old 07-26-2017, 11:38 PM
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Re: Self canceling turn signals..So how DO they work?

I thought they came on through my mind control officer - honest! Isn't that the way all other road users deploy them?
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Re: Self canceling turn signals..So how DO they work?

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!!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!

!!!THE END TO ALL THE GUESSING!!!

Next time you are at the dealer, let him set the value to max..... and they will indicate forever.

So is it a formula involving both time and distance?

Or is it based on which limit, time or distance, is reached first?

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Re: Self canceling turn signals..So how DO they work?

Both.

While stationary, the blinkers will keep blinking forever.

Only if the ABS sends speed information to the ZFE will it initiate
the time/distance counter and shut them off depending on what factor is
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Re: Self canceling turn signals..So how DO they work?

My turn signals never self-cancel, so I feel compelled to ride around in circles so as not to confuse any following 'cagers' . .
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