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will the production costs be recouped and the tech brought to less expensive mainstream bikes? Is this just for race teams?
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Carbon put to good use!


Nice to see something other than cosmetic from such a structural orientated fiber.
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will the production costs be recouped and the tech brought to less expensive mainstream bikes? Is this just for race teams?

I read (can't remember where now. There's been hundreds of articles on the HP4 Race) that the whole reason for doing it was to experiment with the potential for mass produced carbon frames. The author speculated that the carbon fiber chassis tech would trickle down to production bikes. Just at what cost?!?
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If the cost come down enough, it'd make sense.
it's not like we can really and cost effectively repair the frame of a K12R o S1KRR anyway. Once cracked is gone.


Seems to me like carbon would be a winning proposition and even stronger and of course lighter.
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Didn't Ducati try this once??? Seems it didn't work out that well....
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There's a great article by Michael Rutter in Performance Bikes Magazine, May 2018, comparing the performance, manufacturing and parts of the S1000RR road bike (Performance Bikes' 2018 shagged test mule), HP4Race and Rutter's Macau GP S1000RR race bike. Rutter's take, and I guess he has some insight from someone at BMW (just my opinion since they were surely with the HP4Race), is that there are several things that will trickle down to mainstream production from the HP4Race. Specifically mentioned are electronics and, in his eyes, the carbon fiber frame technology. Guess we'll see.

Amazingly, at Valencia, the road going version was about 3.6 seconds behind Rutter's bike, which was faster than the HP4Race, with Rutter riding all three. Yes, three and a half seconds on a track is a long time, and the brakes and suspension on the road bike were suffering, but still..... Also mentioned in the article was that Rutter lapped the Isle of Man course on the stock road bike, with road tires, at 118mph (could have gone faster with better road conditions). This year the fastest lap was 135.4mph. All factoids of how well sorted the standard RR really is.
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Sooooo....

How recyclable is carbon fiber???

And can you just keep on recycling or are there a limited number of cycles?
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Based on how it's made, I would imagine CF isn't too recyclable because of the sum of its components. Has a very high melting point as well. I'm sure someone, somewhere is figuring that stuff out.
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An extensive article on the durability of carbon fiber bicycle frames that has relevance to carbon fiber automobile and motorcycle components.....

https://cyclingtips.com/2015/08/what...-carbon-frame/
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All I can think of is that video of a guy riding a carbon fiber bicycle down a volcano, and the thing coming apart on him at about 90 m.p.h. OUCH!!
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There's a great article by Michael Rutter in Performance Bikes Magazine, May 2018, comparing the performance, manufacturing and parts of the S1000RR road bike (Performance Bikes' 2018 shagged test mule), HP4Race and Rutter's Macau GP S1000RR race bike. Rutter's take, and I guess he has some insight from someone at BMW (just my opinion since they were surely with the HP4Race), is that there are several things that will trickle down to mainstream production from the HP4Race. Specifically mentioned are electronics and, in his eyes, the carbon fiber frame technology. Guess we'll see.

Amazingly, at Valencia, the road going version was about 3.6 seconds behind Rutter's bike, which was faster than the HP4Race, with Rutter riding all three. Yes, three and a half seconds on a track is a long time, and the brakes and suspension on the road bike were suffering, but still..... Also mentioned in the article was that Rutter lapped the Isle of Man course on the stock road bike, with road tires, at 118mph (could have gone faster with better road conditions). This year the fastest lap was 135.4mph. All factoids of how well sorted the standard RR really is.

Hi Rob,

At this year's TT, Peter Hickman did a 134.4mph lap on the BMW superstock bike on treaded tyres. There was some talk that he might put slicks on it and ride it in the Superbike class. He didn't, and rode the superbike on which he did the 135.4mph lap. So unbelievably close between the superstock and superbike.

BTW, I think Michael Rutter was a lot quicker than 118mph on the superstock bike.
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BTW, I think Michael Rutter was a lot quicker than 118mph on the superstock bike.

The article I mentioned was Rutter on a completely stock road bike with road tires. Not a Superstock race bike. Superstock class at the TT allows teams to upgrade exhaust, suspension, bodywork and make fueling map changes. The sum of those changes (more power, less weight, better handling) puts the Superstock bikes within a couple of seconds of the Superbike models. They are not a road going, road legal motorcycle at that point.
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