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What is the difference between bikes with dynamic and touring packages, and a bike with premium package. They seem to be similar, so why the nomenclature?
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AFAIK they should be the same options. Dynamic pro, ESA and gear shift assist pro are the key things to make sure it has
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As I understand it the Premium Package is just a badge for giving you both the Dynamic and Touring packages together at some discount to the price if you ordered them separately.
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I’ll digress!!!

When looking to buy a K1200 9 years ago and being determined not to buy a bike with ESA the amount of BS and down right ignorance I encountered was nothing short of extraordinary my mistake at the begging was believing what I was told which wasted no end of time,I still have my K and have no intention of selling the Wilber sprung K which is pretty dam good despite many blips along the way.

Ironically when I had ordered my X/R a non ESA came up for sale I phoned the same day and it sold within 4 hours the sales guy said non ESA BM’s always sell quickly!!!

Fast forward to buying my X/R so with all the usual BS from dealers and BMW resulting in me having to custom order my bike which took two months from order to delivery.

The problem being the QS was a must and the ESA was a nono,if you want the Quickshifter then you have to order the Dynamic package which I didn’t want it but had to have and i’m Sure BM USA site will have similar to the UK where as you can spec your bike and you get the price accordlngly.

Just looked at my invoice I had to spec

Heated Grips
Center stand
Rear rack but no pannier frames as I didn’t want them.
LED indicators
Hand Guards
Dynamic package

I also made my mind up about the stock seat which I didn’t like and ordered the high HP option so that is what the bike came with I never had the stocker.

Most guys buy ex stock but i’d Be very careful to check what you are getting on the bike because the spec varies greatly depending on what ever BM had in stock for the production line.
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The badge adds the bucks...
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What, no Electronic Cruise Control? That right there is a deal breaker...
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Cruise control on an X/R that is a contradiction!!! Think i’ve Used mine twice to see if it works but you have no choice in the matter it’s part of the Dynamic package same as the QS and all the other electronic gizmo’s.

Besides the X/R cruise control is crap compared to how simple the KTM option is,no doubt will be changed on the next model change.

As for the X/R itself!!! Stand in front of the mirror and ask how honest you are with yourself,their are dozens who have bought such and realised how focused they are and bailed, I really love mine but with multiple bikes I don’t ride ride it all the time so when i’m Not in the GungHo mood I ride something else.
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The cruise on the XR is just like the rest of BMWs cruise controls. And as a 1 bike to do it all it’s outstanding as long as you are on a road , paved or gravel either one is fine. It isn’t a dirt bike though. Other than a GS it’s the least “focused “bike BMW makes
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Other than a GS it’s the least “focused “bike BMW makes

And i’d Go completely the opposite the GS is all things to all people the X/R most certainly isn’t hence why from within months of the bikes launch people have bought and bailed very quickly.

I’ve just come in from a 250 mile morning the bike is absolutely bonkers(and I still feel that after 2 1/2 years)the only other bike i’ve Ridden that is more extreme is the KTM GT if we are talking traillie or adventure bikes or what ever you want to call them
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Any intel on what the new 2019 XRs will have?
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Re: To those who have XR

I like the cruise control on my XR. We frequently have to use I-90 from North Bend to E'burg or Vantage, WA before we get to the "good" roads. Lots of Smokies, including the occasional "Bear In The Air." I just set my cruise control at +6 (as measured by the GPS) and ride on.

I run my bike in Dynamic mode all the time, except during rain, when I go to Rain mode. Hardly ever use Road mode.

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Most guys buy ex stock but i’d Be very careful to check what you are getting on the bike because the spec varies greatly depending on what ever BM had in stock for the production line.

We need to remember that BMW only manufactures bikes which have either been specced by the dealer or by the end customer. Dealers are told how many bikes of each type they are going to get each quarter and, in the absence of a customer order, the dealer - not BMW - specs the bike.

The spec set by the dealer can be changed up to a point in time, after which minor changes can be made and then after a further point in time, no changes are possible.

BM don't operate on the basis that, say, Suzuki used to do. Suzuki would decide to build say 10,000 GSXR 1000s. The spec was pretty much identical for each one although the paint might differ. At the end of the model year they might have sold 9,500. So there would be 500 which were about to be superceded by the new model. You would see these being knocked out at substantial discounts to the cost of the new model. Most of the Jap manufacturers operated on this basis.
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Who actually specs what is frankly a minor detail the buyer walking into the show room needs to know that the spec can differ.
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Who actually specs what is frankly a minor detail the buyer walking into the show room needs to know that the spec can differ.

Chris, a buyer of a BMW unless they are unbelievably naive, knows that the options list is as long as your arm, so all they have to do is ask the dealer what is already on dealer order, what can be changed and if they don't like that, spec it themselves.
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I think your wrong, a bike is in the show room is what it is,unless a buyer has gone to the BM website and trawled through the spec sheet who’s to know,every BM dealer I have dealt with comes with the same old BS because that’s the BM corporate line Ducati don’t do it yet sell the Multistrada in various guises but rail road no one.

It was only when I dug my heels in and wasn’t going to be fobbed off with’ That’s what everyone else buys’ that I looked at the spec sheet who spends big bucks on a top of the range bike and has no hand guards!!! But i’ve Seen them.

We’ve both had to deal with the retail motorcycle customer you give them far more kudos than I do because I think your average customer is as thick as two shorts planks!!! Based on 4 years of dealing with such in fact probably the worse qoute I have heard from a well know dealer in the Midlands ‘Your average customer is more concerned about his helmet matching the colour of the bike’ which just about sums the situation up.
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I think your wrong, a bike is in the show room is what it is,unless a buyer has gone to the BM website and trawled through the spec sheet who’s to know,every BM dealer I have dealt with comes with the same old BS because that’s the BM corporate line Ducati don’t do it yet sell the Multistrada in various guises but rail road no one.

It was only when I dug my heels in and wasn’t going to be fobbed off with’ That’s what everyone else buys’ that I looked at the spec sheet who spends big bucks on a top of the range bike and has no hand guards!!! But i’ve Seen them.

We’ve both had to deal with the retail motorcycle customer you give them far more kudos than I do because I think your average customer is as thick as two shorts planks!!! Based on 4 years of dealing with such in fact probably the worse qoute I have heard from a well know dealer in the Midlands ‘Your average customer is more concerned about his helmet matching the colour of the bike’ which just about sums the situation up.

I must be crediting the average BMW customer with more nous than you're used to in the average Brummie or YamYam!
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I think so
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Saw the subject machine in person this afternoon and it looks great. So did the "skinny"Mani
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What confuses things even more is that the packages can change content year to year, keeping the same name but meaning something entirely different. And each country seems to have their own version. The only way is to look at the actual build sheet and go through the options one by one, whether you're buying off the floor or ordering from the factory.
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In the US not so much. Dealers pretty much order in loaded bikes and unless one wants a de-contented bike, say a non ESA, you can grab just about any bike on the showroom.
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