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My chicken strips are almost an inch wode

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Ride your own ride and live to ride another day. You'll get there.
Sign up for a track school, maybe California Superbike School.

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Re: My chicken strips are almost an inch wode

I agree with jargon 100%!!! Ride your ride it is what it is!! Nobody cares how wide your chicken stripes are!! Live to ride another day is all that matters. I know I can care less what mine are.
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Do a track day.

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Chicken strips are not so bad, unless you live somewhere like this.
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Looks familiar...Rt 9 or 74A?
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Re: My chicken strips are almost an inch wode

Watch "Twist of the Wrist 2" while it's still on YouTube (it disappeared last year, right around the time the California Superbike School got into full swing):

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Re: My chicken strips are almost an inch wode

Not chicken strips...they are safety margins. Just enjoy your ride. I can not say enough good about California Super Bike School. Take the one day, sessions 1 & 2. Use their bike. You will never learn so much in your entire life of riding on your own. And you will be safer.
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Have viewed a twist of the wrist and tried to read the books. The superbike school would be a lovely thing to do. Who would allow mud on their bike? Shocking.
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Re: My chicken strips are almost an inch wode

Just tell your Riding Buddies you're saving the edges of the Tire for the "really good stuff".

Like you, I had fairly wide chicken strips until I put on a set of Riser Plates and simultaneously ditched the Metzeler Sportec M3s for a set of Pirelli Angel GTs. I'm using almost all of the rear Tire profile now and couldn't be more pleased with the improved handling.
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Re: My chicken strips are almost an inch wode

Chicken strips are to my mind close to meaningless. It's pretty easy to get them down to almost nothing if you care to corner with the most appalling technique - lean the bike one way while you lean your body the other for instance. On the other hand, you can beat the pants off the competition cornering on "normal" roads away from the track without needing anything like full lean if your technique is good.
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Chicken strips are to my mind close to meaningless. It's pretty easy to get them down to almost nothing if you care to corner with the most appalling technique - lean the bike one way while you lean your body the other for instance. .

Amen to that.

My Yorkshire wet weather technique involves climbing off the seat onto one foot-peg, and leaving the bike completely vertical.
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My Yorkshire wet weather technique involves climbing off the seat onto one foot-peg, and leaving the bike completely vertical.

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My Yorkshire wet weather technique involves climbing off the seat onto one foot-peg, and leaving the bike completely vertical.

That's my ice-riding technique. Long unused now.
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Re: My chicken strips are almost an inch wode

Chicken strips are no way to gauge how well you or anyone is riding. You can have a guy that rides the tires right to the edge that isn't as fast or skilled as another rider with inch wide "chicken strips". It just means that you aren't using as much lean angle as some and it's better to get around a corner using as little lean angle as possible so you have some reserve left over.

Take two riders going around a track at the same speed but one has chicken strips and the other doesn't. Who's the better rider?

I used to think that scraping my foot peg was the goal of good riding and I remember the day I did so. Everyone thought the sparks were bad ass and that I'd achieved some new level of riding ability when in actual fact I just had terrible body position and was pushing the bike down and underneath me and using way more lean angle than necessary.

I'd rather be the one with the chicken strips that everyone underestimates anyway
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Chicken strips or lack of - same thing as getting a knee down. These days all I'm concerned with is good body position - good lines - good fundamentals.
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Re: My chicken strips are almost an inch wode

But does it not stand to reason that IF you have more usable tire edge, someone COULD run more lean angle and therefore theorectically COULD go faster in the appropriate corner?

I never get a knee down, but Im not looking to.

I do take a peek at how much more usable tire edge I have left using that information to tell me if I need to work on more body position if I want to try to run faster.

I suppose this is nearly meaningless on the street because even with an average hang off position, the corner speeds achievable are incompatible with most public road conditions and traffic.
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But does it not stand to reason that IF you have more usable tire edge, someone COULD run more lean angle and therefore theorectically COULD go faster in the appropriate corner?

I never get a knee down, but Im not looking to.

I do take a peek at how much more usable tire edge I have left using that information to tell me if I need to work on more body position if I want to try to run faster.

I suppose this is nearly meaningless on the street because even with an average hang off position, the corner speeds achievable are incompatible with most public road conditions and traffic.
Sure all of the above.

I can put a knee down theses days almost at will - but that doesn't mean I took the corner correctly or certainly does not mean I took it as fast as possible. Once you have parts touching the ground bike/body you are slowing down.

Having more tire left to use is a good thing - it's when you have used up all of your tire you need to be concerned.

All these things happen as we get faster and hopefully better riders - continue practicing - look at pictures/video of yourself to see your body position.

Ask the coaches at the events to do a few laps observing you and towing you - almost all organizations will do that for free.

See if you can do a few one on one days with a coach - most track day orgs offer this. Go to CSS no need to sell them they are really fantastic.

Lastly and most importantly in my opinion - go out and have fun - don't worry about being the slowest rider or fastest rider - you will never be either of those. Go out be honest to yourself in regard to how well you are actually riding - don't worry about moving up to the next group level - many riders want that sticker and get in trouble.

I'm fighting aging these days - the trick for me - get to the track often to keep the skills I've learned and to continue to learn.

If you get to the track a few times a year or so spread out over time it is really hard to learn.

Something that I have found to be really good - when at all possible I never do a single day event(especially at a new track).

I always do a 2 day event - the first day if you have not been on track for awhile is getting yourself re-acclimated and of course learning the track. By the end of the day I'm usually starting to feel comfortable.

If you are there for the day you leave and have to repeat the process all over again next time out. If you are there for two days your motor memory skills are still fresh in your head and day two almost always is an awesome day.

Don't get me wrong I'm not suggesting doing one track day is not worth it - it most certainly is - I'm suggesting what works for me in regard to my learning ability.

This season I've only done one single day so far - I have two other single days coming up because one is a schedule conflict and the other is only a one day event.

I learn really slow I'm going to be close to 30 track days this year am I better than last year maybe??
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But does it not stand to reason that IF you have more usable tire edge, someone COULD run more lean angle and therefore theorectically COULD go faster in the appropriate corner?

I never get a knee down, but Im not looking to.

I do take a peek at how much more usable tire edge I have left using that information to tell me if I need to work on more body position if I want to try to run faster.

I suppose this is nearly meaningless on the street because even with an average hang off position, the corner speeds achievable are incompatible with most public road conditions and traffic.
Just do this and you will be just fine - if I could do this I would not care about knee down ever.
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I agree with running a couple trackdays together. As it is now, I work 6 days a week and if I do take a day off, I've got to ask a colleague to cover a Saturday. So, you know. Work guilt.

Knee down seems to be a rider's gauge of lean angle. I should learn to do it. My leg just doesn't seem to go that way naturally...

I am definitely having fun! I love this shit.

If I have the opportunity, I would love to take Jason Disalvo's trackday/coaching sessions.
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That one got hit with a take-down notice. It's a whack-a-mole game though, other folks will put it up. The video motivated me to want to take the California SB school. Not cheap but definitely looks worth it. I don't own leathers though, need to get the gear before I can attend.

Here's the abridged version that leaves out 25 minutes of bad acting but keeps the instructional parts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjL_BO4fPpU

I downloaded it and watch it on TV at home.
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The instructions on gear in the school literature are strict of course. But when you show up most any good gear is okay. I rode in a aerostitch suit, several in two piece suits. You can rent their leathers for about $25. Be sure to use their bikes. About 200$ but well worth it. No fuel worries and no tires to worry about either. Plus if there is a mechanical failure they just give you another bike. If it is your bike, your out if your bike won't run and it may cost you thousands if you dump it. They have a damage deposit and a maximum that you pay if you crash that is way less than hurting your own bike. You won't crash and you will learn so much you will wish you had done it years ago. Get lodging near the track so you can sleep the night before and after if you live more than an hour or two away.
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Thanks for the advice, Beech. I saw their website mention that they've fitted guys bigger than me with their rental leathers. Looking forward to trying the S1000RR at speed.
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I try to tell folks that this is something not to be missed. You will have a great adventure and learn so much. Enjoy. ( I was nervous as a cat in a dog park the first half hour in the class room. It all go better)
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