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Old 01-13-2019, 01:41 PM
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Did your "Chicken Strips" get narrower after installing Riser Plates?

When I bought my used '11 K1300S in August 2016 it had only 1,148 miles and it had the OEM Riser Plates and the OE Metzeler Sportec M3s. A pitiful combination IMO.

The Sportec M3s were obviously old and dry and felt very wooden to say the least. I'd just traded in my '99 BWM R1100S for the Mighty K13S and it was obvious the old R11S (shod with Pirelli Angel GTs and Wilbers F/R) handled much better in Swerverage (my word for curvy tarmac).

The K13S has a few things working for or against it depending on what you prefer to do with it. If you love straight line speed then the OEM setup is great, what with the extra long wheelbase and conservative steering rake. But if Swerverage is your delight then it needs a few minor changes IMO. In my case, 10mm Kulkendahl Riser Plates and a new set of Pirelli Angel GTs made a marked improvement in handling.

I have also noted the "Chicken Strips" on my K13S are narrower, almost not existing versus my old R11S. The R1100S wheelbase is ~4 inches (~100 mm) shorter that the K13S. I read somewhere many Moons ago that the longer the Wheelbase, the further over a one must lean to negotiate a curve at a given speed.

So to my question, did your "Chicken Strips" get narrower after installing Riser Plates?
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Old 01-13-2019, 09:18 PM
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Re: Did your "Chicken Strips" get narrower after installing Riser Plates?

A bike with wider tires requires more apparent lean angle because the contact patch moves toward the inside more than a narrow tire.
A higher center of gravity decreases the effect of the width of the tire meaning less lean angle is required, although how much 1 inch makes is not clear to me.
I believe the biggest reason to raise the rear is to sharpen turn in feel.
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Re: Did your "Chicken Strips" get narrower after installing Riser Plates?

Here is a diagram I found on the 'nets
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Re: Did your "Chicken Strips" get narrower after installing Riser Plates?

Two books I have found interesting are SPORT RIDING TECHNIQUES and TOTAL CONTROL. Many of the topics we discuss are addressed in them. I don't know that I am a better rider, but I understand my weaknesses and failures.
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Re: Did your "Chicken Strips" get narrower after installing Riser Plates?

I thought this was more a bike set up question vs riding technique question.
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Re: Did your "Chicken Strips" get narrower after installing Riser Plates?

Okay, then I recommend SPORTBIKE SUSPENSION TUNING. Lots of suspension tuning that one cannot do to the K1300S, but a very detailed book.
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Re: Did your "Chicken Strips" get narrower after installing Riser Plates?

Thanks for the commentary and recommended reading but can anyone confirm if their "Chicken Strips" got narrower post Riser Plate install?
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Re: Did your "Chicken Strips" get narrower after installing Riser Plates?

No, not noticeably.

Installed 1" riser plates, new LiFePO4 battery, CF exhaust and friend borrowed it for a few thousand km's. Didn't notice any real difference and he tends to ride to the edge more than me! He did love riding it however! But is going to buy another Hayabusa.....
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Re: Did your "Chicken Strips" get narrower after installing Riser Plates?

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No, not noticeably.

Thanks for your response Chris.

How bout it Folks? Any other responses?
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Re: Did your "Chicken Strips" get narrower after installing Riser Plates?

No, I don't believe they did. Getting in and out of cornering lean seems much easier/quicker but the maximum extent of lean remains unchanged. I'd think max lean is more rider dependent.
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Re: Did your "Chicken Strips" get narrower after installing Riser Plates?

I think there are just far too many other variables/factors at play to answer that question with full confidence in my mind.
Theoretically speaking, raising the center of gravity SHOULD reduce the amount of lean required all things being equal.
Practically speaking, who knows...

I agree with the people that responded. Effort was reduced significantly but ultimately lean angle didn't change appreciably.
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Re: Did your "Chicken Strips" get narrower after installing Riser Plates?

Don't know yet as the one's I got from Beech are still on my bench. 7 degrees here with snow and more coming. I know this doesn't answer your question and I may not ever be able to because with age comes more caution and slower healing.
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