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Old 10-18-2018, 04:42 PM
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Thanks for the tip Eric.

Just ventured outside with a torch and tried your trick and guess what !

Nope, made no difference.

Thanks to all for help. I do already have a brilliant BMW tech who has worked on the London Met Police's BMWs and fettled Yamahas for a TT winner. For any Brits on here, he is:-

http://www.theworkshopyork.com/

But I don't see why I should incur more expense when the bike is under warranty.

I strongly suspect that whoever fitted the 'hot start' wiring kit at Bowker forgot to tighten up some crucial electrical fastener. Or maybe the relay decided to let go at the same time.

We'll see what Bowker come up with as a solution.

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Old 10-19-2018, 09:54 AM
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Best of luck I am sure a competent BMW mechanic can find and fix the problem. Keep us informed.
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Old 10-19-2018, 10:34 AM
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Little consolation I know but I relate to the clutch judder the BM shop who sorted it needed two attempts and sadly I have no idea exactly what they did but sort it they have must fixed 7/8 years ago and itís as good as any other.

Re your electrical again no consolation but know how you feel the very reason I choose the K to go too the Aragon GP recently was because iíd Lost all faith in it and needed to get back on track or it was going in the skip luckily it redeemed itself.

Although I am currently up my neck in mud and alligators with an aftermarket product iíve Bought for the bike with no resolution currently but I cannot blame BM for that.
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Old 10-25-2018, 08:28 AM
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Just got a phone call from Bowker Motorrad:-

They found a loose connection on the starter relay. So either

1 - It's been hanging by a thread since the bike rolled out of Berlin

2 - I ride the big K13 so hard, I shook it loose, or

3 - They disturbed the connection when they fitted the 'hot start' kit.

. . .and I'd just ordered my lime green leathers for the ZZR1400 . . .
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Just got a phone call from Bowker Motorrad:-

They found a loose connection on the starter relay. So either

1 - It's been hanging by a thread since the bike rolled out of Berlin

2 - I ride the big K13 so hard, I shook it loose, or

3 - They disturbed the connection when they fitted the 'hot start' kit.

. . .and I'd just ordered my lime green leathers for the ZZR1400 . . .
I hope that resolves the problem for you on this awesome motorcycle!
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Old 10-25-2018, 09:33 AM
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Maybe Mea not so Culpa after all . .

Bike delivered to me on October 3, complete with new BMW battery.

Rode that weekend, all good.

Since then (ten days) bike has been in a warm garage, under cover, no frost in England yet.

Just been to start it as it's a glorious Autumn day and - click - nothing. Dash lights up, flashers flash, horn very loud - so to me that means there is strong voltage. Hit that horrid little red button and, exactly as before, just get a muted click deep inside the bike from what I presume is the starter relay.

It is insured. I am tempted to accidentally torch it, but am now so full of distrust that I doubt it would even catch fire.

Looks like Kawasaki will have a new customer very soon.

David
Before you pull out your check book, call your insurance agent for quote on that zx14r. I would own one but I can't afford the insurance.
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Old 10-25-2018, 09:47 AM
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MarkOne

Thanks for the tip.

The only good thing about being such an old git (apart from wearing incontinence pants and getting pop-up ads for funerals every five minutes) is that bike insurance is relatively cheap, and for the big Zed is pretty much the same as for the K.

The K will have a stay of execution for now. And if I can get to trust it post warranty, I do have a great BMW tech near York who can fix anything.

So it's Wienerschnitzel and Liebfraumilch for the time being.
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Old 10-25-2018, 11:07 AM
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[quote=mcchoc]MarkOne

The only good thing about being such an old git (apart from wearing incontinence pants and getting pop-up ads for funerals every five minutes) is that bike insurance is relatively cheap, and for the big Zed is pretty much the same as for the K.

Glad to hear they found something, hope it solves the problem. Told you when the problem was found although it was difficult to find it would seem obvious in retrospect. I owned and raced two of the big kaws (06 ZX-14 & a 2013 ZX-14) Both very fast and reliable but in my case at my age I would probably would have ended up seriously injured or dead. Iturned to BMW for the first time in 2016 and have not looked back since. I like the understated styling and real world performance of these bikes better than the boy racer styling of the recent Japanese bikes. Good luck hope the K1300 is finally fixed.
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Here's hoping the dealer learns something from this:-

Dear Bowker

The bike is due back for the sixth time this coming Tuesday, leaving me with a dilemma. Do I get rid of it before the warranty expires in December and take a big financial hit, or keep it and assume that it is basically a good machine and that my many troubles have been caused solely by yourselves and your short-cut policy on used BMWs?

When I first took delivery on day one, I noticed that the plastic dust cover was missing from the shaft drive. An insignificant and cheap part, but perhaps a clue that the bike had not had a thorough pre-delivery inspection? And so it turned out. I have still not unravelled the truth regarding this bike having had the 'hot start quality enhancement', which you promised had been done before I agreed to purchase. The fact that it displayed the hot start problem on its first truly hot day with me would dispute that. Finally fitting the 'supplementary wiring' kit seemed to have cured this, but the last two occasions on which I've had to send it back were caused, not by 'needing a new battery', but by your mechanics not fitting the kit correctly and not checking the connections with the starter relay. So one trip became three.

And anyone giving it a PDI test ride would have discovered the terrible clutch judder and realised that you cannot sell a premium used bike in that condition. Two attempts were needed to solve this; the first involved fitting an irrelevant part - the second, the more expensive full laminar plate set.

In short, if you'd given this bike the checks and attention warranted on such a prestige badge, we could both have avoided these half dozen complaints and fixes.

And instead of someone who now regards the Bowker name with extreme distrust, and would not recommend the company, you would have a satisfied costumer who would most probably return to you for his next new bike.

BMW's status in the market place depends hugely on its perceived quality being superior to that of its rivals. Surely it would have been cheaper and far more effective to get this right first time?

Regards,

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