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Old 09-28-2013, 01:43 PM
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Stupid question, but how do you calibrate the suspension on an 09 s?
I know it esa, but how dies the bike know if I'm 80kilos or 180kilos to start off with??
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Old 09-28-2013, 08:28 PM
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There is no way to calibrate it. The suspension was designed for 180 lb. riders. I weigh 280. Play with the settings.
I always had it set at 2 riders. It plowed through turns on me, making the handling very sluggish. While I liked the ESA adjustability, it just did not adjust for my weight. Finally, I opted for Wilbers, so that I might join the rest of you who think the bike handles very well. Problem solved with the Wilbers, it now slices the turns, now I just have to learn how to ride better.
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Re: suspension

Thank you jargon.
I thought as much, but best ask a stupid question etc etc
I weigh 82 kilos (almost 180 exactly). I find the bike great, but just always recalled setting suspension settings gsm on my previous bike to suit me & making a good bike better
Just what do you mean by "wilbers"?
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Re: suspension

Ray, Wilbers are an aftermarket shock. They custom build them to your weight and riding style.

I would say the ESA is 'calibrated' to you, because you weigh exactly what they were designed for. You should get 25-35,000 miles out of them before you need to replace. Enjoy!
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how do you calibrate the suspension on an 09 s? I know it esa, but how dies the bike know if I'm 80kilos
The suspension was designed EXACTLY for your weight, so all you have to do is to set the preload to '1-up' (meaning one helmet on the display), and play with the damping settings among 'tour', 'norm', and 'sport'. You need to do the preload while stopped, but can change damping settings on the fly. Read your owner's manual . Or download one for free. Good luck.
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Thanks. I have the ESA sussed ok, but I had found notes on my old r1 setup & it got me thinking :-) dangerous thing I know.
I'm surprised there's not some sort of calibration on the system to compensate for differing weights
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Note that the latest Beta release of the GS-911 software, now has a routine for recalibrating the ESA, in the event that the damping settings get out of whack.
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Perfect, it's up for the 30 service on thurs, I'll get the mechanic to check it out. Thank you
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Re: suspension

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The suspension was designed EXACTLY for your weight, so all you have to do is to set the preload to '1-up' (meaning one helmet on the display), and play with the damping settings among 'tour', 'norm', and 'sport'. You need to do the preload while stopped, but can change damping settings on the fly. Read your owner's manual . Or download one for free. Good luck.
JC:

Your bike has a different setting than mine - tour - my bike has comf - norm - sport. I don't remember for sure but I thought my 07 K1200S had - comf - as well.

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Your bike has a different setting than mine (tour). My bike has comf - norm - sport.
It's the same man; my bad. With that crap in my other cars, it's hard to remember who calls it what (it's just semantics) .
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It's the same man; my bad. With that crap in my other cars, it's hard to remember who calls it what (it's just semantics) .
Never can tell with BMW they have been known to do funky stuff.
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Re: suspension

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There is no way to calibrate it. The suspension was designed for 180 lb. riders. I weigh 280. Play with the settings.
I always had it set at 2 riders. It plowed through turns on me, making the handling very sluggish. While I liked the ESA adjustability, it just did not adjust for my weight. Finally, I opted for Wilbers, so that I might join the rest of you who think the bike handles very well. Problem solved with the Wilbers, it now slices the turns, now I just have to learn how to ride better.

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You could have replace only the original spring .... by one with weight range ...
and you will have had a complete ESA set for you ...
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You could have replace only the original spring .... by one with weight range ...
and you will have had a complete ESA set for you ...

You are able to change springs on OEM shocks in France?
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Re: suspension

To replace the Spring once the shock absorber is off the bike is quite simple.

At the bottom of the shock abs, below the silent block of the stem, you have the lock nut of the stem.
So the only thing to do is to compress the spring, untight the lock nut and then remove the bottom part from the stem, and the spring comes off
and you can put a new one.
Every shock absorber specialist (refurbishment and or preparation) will be able to locate the correct spring for your needs.


http://www.servimg.com/image_preview...159&u=14456461

and to remove the shock from the bike it's a 2hr job ...

http://bmist.forumpro.fr/t87550-chan...amortisseur+AR

If you need i can translate the post. but picture explain the procedure ...
as well it's not necessary to remove completly the rear frame ... just remove the bottom screw and rotate it upwards at 45 deg
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Re: suspension

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Note that the latest Beta release of the GS-911 software, now has a routine for recalibrating the ESA, in the event that the damping settings get out of whack.

User setting re-calibration or just back to factory default? It would be nice to set the ESA up for your personal weight.

Works Performance make an ESA compatible aftermarket shock - has anyone used these?

Also does anyone offer rebuild/customization of the OEM shocks?
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Don't know for US but, yes there is some in UK and France

pretty sure you can find some in US, check with shops doing some White Power refurbishment/preparation.
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Re: suspension

I do not believe that you substitute heavier, or lighter springs, in the white powder esa shocks and expect the esa to function properly.

damping rates are related to spring rate, changing the springs would necessitate changing the damping rates as well. (possibly this is being done)

For example, in very simplistic terms, if one were to put heavier springs in the esa shocks the esa compression damping rates would be too heavy and the rebound too light.
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