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Old 11-29-2016, 08:19 AM
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My wife and I are going to be moving from CT to Toronto. I currently own a 2006 K12S which I love but need something a little more comfortable for 2 up riding. I don't want to give up the "sport" part of sport-touring so what are my choices? I have owned several Ducatis and have been leaning toward a MTS 1200 but that may not be any more comfortable for her than the K12S. Id like decent wind protection since it will be colder there and comfortable seat with backrest but not sacrifice power and handling. Am I asking too much out of one bike?
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Old 11-29-2016, 09:39 AM
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Paul, go test ride a GSA (comes in standard or lowered height) or GS. You will be shocked at how it handles and rides. Its versatility can't be beat and it's terrific at 2-up and touring, not to mention the damned thing has been evolving and perfected over the past 30 years.

Don't tell any of the GS riders it's not a sporty type of bike...they all ride the snot out of them. Me, I'm not that good yet.
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yeah, what Jargon sez......or buy a snow mobile
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Re: Next bike?

Paul:

Also check out the R1200RS it has more protection than the GS and it may be just sporty enough for you.

I know when you read K1600 you instantly think no way - but you really should check out the sport model.

Yes they are bigger and heavier than your bike - but once rolling more than 5 mph's they are very good and handle great - and they are comfortable.
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I know people love the GS/GSAs, but I know I'll never take it off road. It seems like a waste to take such a capable machine and not use it it for its intended purpose. Also, I have to say my wife is not an "enthusiast" but does like to ride if she's comfortable. It's why I'm not thinking about the Ducati yore even though it's a very capable 2up machine.
Bruce, I have been checking out the K16. It seems like it might be a good compromise but there's a black K1300S I've been seeing on Craigslist in western Mass that has my interest. Lol
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BMW S1000XR
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Hey Paul,

I saw you out riding a week or two ago - Sorry to hear you're leaving the area.

You can take my GS out for a spin if you'd like to try it.

I can see you getting the Multi - sportier than the GS and still loaded with nice features. In my heart I wanted the Duc, but my analytical side won out and I ended up with the GS. Can't go wrong either way.
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I know people love the GS/GSAs, but I know I'll never take it off road.

I'll probably never take my GSA off road either, unless I do a trip to Alaska.
In fact, I now have sport touring Metzeler Roadtec 01's on it...fantastic tire.
If you just can't get beyond the thought of a GS, then the RT is a wonderful bike as well that shares the same WC motor as the GS's, handles great, and when you spin up that miter, there's plenty of power. You might not even miss the KS.
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I saw you out riding a week or two ago - Sorry to hear you're leaving the area.

You can take my GS out for a spin if you'd like to try it.

I can see you getting the Multi - sportier than the GS and still loaded with nice features. In my heart I wanted the Duc, but my analytical side won out and I ended up with the GS. Can't go wrong either way.

Kevin, it's still hard to believe after being in our home for 23 years. It'll be a new adventure, for sure. I appreciate the offer to take out your GS but I try to make a rule of not testing other friends' bikes (for obvious reasons ) I may try to get in a test ride over at Max's though.
We're not selling the house; I'm going on an ex-pat deal so I'll be back in 2-3 years.
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I'll probably never take my GSA off road either, unless I do a trip to Alaska.
In fact, I now have sport touring Metzeler Roadtec 01's on it...fantastic tire.
If you just can't get beyond the thought of a GS, then the RT is a wonderful bike as well that shares the same WC motor as the GS's, handles great, and when you spin up that miter, there's plenty of power. You might not even miss the KS.

I've had so many people tell me I would love the GS that I guess I would be remiss if I didn't give it a test ride. I've ridden with Kevin on his old K12S. I know he is someone who likes to go fast so there must be something to it.
The RT is a great machine but I'm not sure if I'm ready to give up my hooligan ways. I wish I could have a barn filled with bikes then the only choice I'd have to make is which one to ride!
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Just spin the motor up into the powerband above 6,000 rpm on any wc boxer
Motor and you'll have plenty of power.
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Re: Next bike?

Paul, other marques to consider:

Yamaha FJR1300
Engine: 1298cc in-line four
Power: 146.2hp
Torque: 101.7 lb/ft
Weight: 292kg (wet)



Kawasaki 1400GTR
Engine: 1352cc, 16-valve, DOHC inline four-cylinder
Power: 155hp
Torque: 136 Nm
Weight: 305kg



Suzuki GSX1300R
Engine:1340cc, 16-valve, fuel-injected inline four
Power: 194bhp
Torque: 154Nm
Weight: 215kg

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Rick,

1) pussy bike

2) wanna be

3) ugly

Next?
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Ok, now that's funny! However, I don't think any of those bikes would be better than what I've got. The K12S is incredibly fast and capable. I have a Corbin heated seat with backrest so it's not terrible for two up riding. Just thinking the K1600 or RT would be a little more comfortable and much better wind protection for the pillion
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Kawasaki 1400GTR
Engine: 1441cc, 16-valve, DOHC inline four-cylinder
Power: 200hp
Torque: 103.8 lb/ft
Weight: 269kg


I think those displacement and horsepower specs are from the ZX14, not the Concours...
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My second that, go check out the FJR kick ass bike
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I think those displacement and horsepower specs are from the ZX14, not the Concours...
Correctomundo Charlie, I fix.
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My second that, go check out the FJR kick ass bike
The problem with the FJR is that my neighbor is an engineer who thinks he knows everything. He got into riding a couple of years ago at my urging and he went out and bought an FJR. If I got one, he would never let me hear the end of it.
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Correctomundo Charlie, I fix.
If Kawasaki would put the ZX14 engine in the Concours, put it on a diet, and add cruise control, it would be a very attractive sport tourer...
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The comfort of a mts is virtually identical to a k/s. The mts seat pretty much keeps the rider and pillion in one place but there is some wiggle room on the stock seat of the ks. Wind protection and buffeting is an issue for some on the mts. I finally went to shorty sport screen on my mts which helped. The passenger may feel a bit exposed. Great bike though.

The RT with the new motor is super. It's obviously a touring bike. But, you can go like stink on it to if ya wanna get sporty. The RT is great for your passenger. My wc GSA has excellent wind protection so it's at least equal to the RS and an excellent touring/2up bike and will never see dirt. Don't let anyone kid you...it ain't a dirt bike!

You've got many great choices. Hard to go wrong with any but it's just what's suits you best
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Finding the right bike is a very subjective thing. I guess you know it when you find it. As many of you have stated, there are so many good choices out there. I need to make a trip to a few dealers and test ride a bunch with my wife.
The funny thing is that I was given a C650 as a loaner one day. Here I was in full gear riding a scooter; how embarrassing! I was even more embarrassed at how much I liked that thing. It was comfortable, had heated seat, grips, and electric windshield. I rode it around town all day.
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