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Old 08-21-2013, 12:15 PM
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Re: Pirelli vs Michelin Advice

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Based on the comments here, and the experience with my those in my Sunday morning ride group who ride the K1200/1300S, I think I will also change to PR3 F&R (Spec B Rear) before our group's ride to NW Arkansas in a couple of weeks. I have a little less than 2mm left on the OE Metzeler M3 front (7,800 miles) and about 3.5mm left on the M5 rear (3,600 miles), and while I was tempted to see if these would last a couple of thousand more miles (so I could see how the M5 wears down), I now think I will go ahead and change them both before the trip (and maybe keep the M5 for later).

Thanks for the input and experience here.


I'm with you on that Mike, as far as I am concerned 2mm of tread on the front means the tire is close to done, by then performance is severely impacted. The tire will be flat on top and worse it will have lost a lot of bite.

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Old 08-21-2013, 01:14 PM
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Re: Pirelli vs Michelin Advice

All you folks who went with the Angel GT, any reports yet on performance or endurance?? I'll be needing a new set of rubber before the season is over and I'm still vacillating between the PR3 or Angel GT. Thanks!!
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Re: Pirelli vs Michelin Advice

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I was supposed to get a set of Angel GTs fitted last Friday, but the BMW dealer advised at the last moment that they had not recieved them - so I am still waiting.... I followed this up with the tyre wholesaler who supplies all Pirelli's here and he confirmed that I will have to wait till mid September if I want the GTs. So I am nursing the OEM Metzlers a few more weeks. I am also keen to hear from others who have the GTs fitted to their K13's. As an aside I plan to fit the 'A' spec rear....

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Re: Pirelli vs Michelin Advice

With the Angels.... what's the difference between A spec and B spec?....
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I'm not aware of a 'B' spec GT... My understanding is the Angel GT 'A' spec has the stiffer sidewall so is more suited to heavier loading/bikes

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Re: Pirelli vs Michelin Advice

I seriously looked at the GT. I did not go with it because there is very little information on how this tire performs on the K1300S. I searched the internet and found virtually nothing the tire as it is suited to my bike. It is just too new.

Whereas the PR3 is an extremely well proven and well received tire. The Z8, M5, Rossa Corsa are also proven multi compound sport touring tires on the bike with lots of rider experience reports.

Time will tell how well the GT will be received in our community, I did not want to be a guinea pig.
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Re: Pirelli vs Michelin Advice

I have over 2000klm on the GT's and i cannot find a reason to ever change from them. Hard braking, hard accelarating and accute lean angles are handled with ease. They still look new!............ well, better than any other tyre i've ever had at 2000klm.

What convinced me was an article i read about the introduction of the GT's to the Australian market at a local race track. Five journos and five different bikes, one being a K1300R. The writer of the article was particularly taken by the K and how it handled a full day on the track with the GT's fitted and they still looked new at the end of it.
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This being a BMW site and all... would it be heretic to ask for a pic or two of that Moto Guzzi?

I had a thing for the LeMans IV around those days, never rode one, barely saw one in real life too

Just posted some pics in the "how many bikes" thread.
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Re: Pirelli vs Michelin Advice

I have the Mettler z8 on my k1300s. Great all round tyre, no complaints, I should get around 10000kms, but a few of those have been hard corner roads & a track day.
I have thought about the Pirelli but they seem to be a softer compound so less kms.
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I have the Mettler z8 on my k1300s. Great all round tyre, no complaints, I should get around 10000kms, but a few of those have been hard corner roads & a track day.
I have thought about the Pirelli but they seem to be a softer compound so less kms.

I had a set of Z8's for 1200klm and was very impressed with them.
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I had a set of Z8's for 1200klm and was very impressed with them.

On my K1200GT, I moved from BT023 to Z8, so far I've only ridden 2up so not much to base my comparison on.
Apart from the impressive ability the rear had to pick up a glass shard at 900 miles :-(
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Re: Pirelli vs Michelin Advice

Well as I stated I went with the PR3's, rear B spec.

I am about half way through the rear now with about 4500km, it is starting to flatten out pretty good. Front is still rounded. Great wear in my opinion.

Assessment:

Rain: A+
Slabs: A+
Aggressive Twisties: C-
Overall Assessment: B

I find them very vague in the twisties compared to the M3s and the Dunlop Qualifer. Never developed confidence in the front at heavy lean angles. I wore the chicken strips off of the front but still have close to half inch chicken strips on the back. I find this odd and concerning. If I am going to run out of tire I do not want it to be on the front. I am wondering if this has something to do with the B spec rear not flexing enough to have a proper contact patch at heavy lean angles.

I am going to switch them out to either a Rossa Corsa or a Dunlop Q3, probably the Dunlop.

If I decide to ride across the country I will throw on a pair however.
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Well as I stated I went with the PR3's, rear B spec.

Never developed confidence in the front at heavy lean angles. I wore the chicken strips off of the front but still have close to half inch chicken strips on the back.
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I noticed you were not that happy with the front, I read somewhere that someone put a Michelin pure power on the front and a pilot road 3 on the back and this was a great combo. I never tried this out though.
I ran 2 sets of PR3's on the kawasaki and was very impressed, and noticed the front was only half worn by the time the rear was shot, and was getting 11,500km out of them. I'm kinda leaning towards the PR3's.but the GT's sound good and are cheaper too.

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I wore the chicken strips off of the front but still have close to half inch chicken strips on the back. I find this odd and concerning. If I am going to run out of tire I do not want it to be on the front. I am wondering if this has something to do with the B spec rear not flexing enough to have a proper contact patch at heavy lean angles.
Mike,

I wonder as well, reading this I was at a loss. I did NOT run the B spec tire, but in my case I wore edge to edge on the rear and still have about 1/2" on each side on the front.
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I find them very vague in the twisties compared to the M3s and the Dunlop Qualifer. Never developed confidence in the front at heavy lean angles. I wore the chicken strips off of the front but still have close to half inch chicken strips on the back.
I found the PR3s better than the M3s in EVERY respect; I'd rate them A+ overall. And have about 2mm of chicken strips on both front and rear tires. Something not right with your bike man.. and that has nothing to do with tire choice. Even aggressive trail-braking shouldn't have that effect. Could be wrong tire pressures, wrong suspension settings, or simply too, hmmmm, 'large' for the stock suspension. And that's assuming all mechanicals are solid, including wheel bearings, axle torque, lugnuts, etc. One advantage of a truck-like wheelbase is a very stable feel in both twisties and straights. Bike should feel that way. Mine does. Good luck.
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I found the PR3s better than the M3s in EVERY respect; I'd rate them A+ overall. And have about 2mm of chicken strips on both front and rear tires. Something not right with your bike man.. and that has nothing to do with tire choice. Even aggressive trail-braking shouldn't have that effect. Could be wrong tire pressures, wrong suspension settings, or simply too, hmmmm, 'large' for the stock suspension. And that's assuming all mechanicals are solid, including wheel bearings, axle torque, lugnuts, etc. One advantage of a truck-like wheelbase is a very stable feel in both twisties and straights. Bike should feel that way. Mine does. Good luck.

The bike is fine, I am a big guy, didn't have that problem with the dunlop or metezler in the same pressures, esa settings etc. The only difference could be a whole lot of very aggressive steep down hill twisties. What pressure do you run your B-spec pr3 rear at?
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Re: Pirelli vs Michelin Advice

Mike, I run mine at 42 on my KRS. I don't have that type wear patterns.
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How do the Z8's do in the rain/wet? I have Roadtech Z6's on now and really like them - I had PR3's on my F800ST but found them vague. I like stability in the leans overall, even in wet conditions.
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