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Old 04-23-2015, 07:55 AM
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Can you trust a non BMW dealer to change your tires?

It's that time for my first tire change and my dealer's Tire change machine is damaged. Can I trust a non BMW dealer to safely change my tires and not mess up my wheels in the process?
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Re: Can you trust a non BMW dealer to change your tires?

depends on the shop, i've had non-bmw shops change my tires and never had a issue. there's a honda/yamaha dealership only 10 minutes from my house that i use for tire changes, inspections, oil changes and other mundane work and they've always done a great job plus they're cheaper than the closest bmw shop.
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Re: Can you trust a non BMW dealer to change your tires?

They might not have the adaptor to balance the rear wheel.
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Re: Can you trust a non BMW dealer to change your tires?

I had no problem with doing that
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Re: Can you trust a non BMW dealer to change your tires?

I use another shop for tires without a concern. But it will absolutely depend on the shop and if they hire monkeys it'd be best to go somewhere that will fix/replace any damaged parts.
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Re: Can you trust a non BMW dealer to change your tires?

Jonathan,
Take a trip across the pond and go to Max. Two locations in Connecticut but going to Brookfield is the nicer ride. Maybe 40 minutes from the CT side of the Port Jeff ferry. They will do it while you wait as long as you call for an appointment. Not only is it a nice trip but it will be done correctly.
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Re: Can you trust a non BMW dealer to change your tires?

You just have to find a shop with a good reputation. I have never had the dealer change tires. I find a deal on line, take the wheels off and take them in to a guy. Just ask around. First as the someone said, they have to have an adapter for the hub on the rear tire. Also, ask if the shop has a water filter/dryer on their air compressor. It sounds silly, BUT, soon after last tire change my front TPM sensor stopped working. The bike is still under warranty and took it to dealer. Apparently the tec said that when he took the tire off after seeing that the sensor was not communicating with the ECU he found some moisture in the tire. Now, he said water or moisture can cause the sensor to fail. I don't know if I buy that, but they replaced the sensor and was fixed at no charge. I did a little research and yes, some of the better, more expensive air compressors have a water, moisture, dryer on them.
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Re: Can you trust a non BMW dealer to change your tires?

Consistent with what some others have said, I think it's more important to look at the type of tire-changing equipment they use and that they have the required adapters for balancing. For tire-changing, you want one of those "no-mar" types that grip inside the flange with plastic fingers and has an adjustable support to keep the tire iron from touching the outside flange.
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Re: Can you trust a non BMW dealer to change your tires?

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It's that time for my first tire change and my dealer's Tire change machine is damaged. Can I trust a non BMW dealer to safely change my tires and not mess up my wheels in the process?

You should get a few of your riding buds to go in on a no-mar and you guys can change your own tires. You'd pay for it in no time and it would give you another excuse to get together and drink beers..
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Re: Can you trust a non BMW dealer to change your tires?

Jonathan:

All good suggestions - I especially like the doing it yourself the best. Another possibility - most Cycle Gears will do it for you while you wait if you bring the wheels in - again just make sure they have the adaptors.

I bought my NoMar tire machine in 2004 it paid for itself after the 3rd tire change. Not to mention you don't have to go anywhere to do the tires - go to your garage when you want - take your time and done - and done correctly.
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Re: Can you trust a non BMW dealer to change your tires?

Thanks guys for all your great suggestions. The first notable non BMW shop I called delayed when i told them what bike I had and then quickly spurted out 95.00/tire..... NOT! So, I took a chance and called Manhattan BMW for kicks just knowing that my hair would be on fire when they quoted me NYC prices. However, to my surprise, it was 25.00 cheaper than my local dealership in Long Island and they didn't have any problem putting on tires that I ordered from an online retailer. They're also running a spring special on oil changes for 100 bucks, so I feel like I hit pay dirt! Tire change is costing me 150.00 and their going to do both while I wait knowing I have an upcoming ride.

I would really like to invest in a Tire changer, but I don't think I have enough space in my one car garage with two bikes... Maybe the next house

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Re: Can you trust a non BMW dealer to change your tires?

I will be trying cyclegear in edison, nj. 20/tire if you buy from them and bring wheels but they take 1 to 2 days.
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Re: Can you trust a non BMW dealer to change your tires?

I'm with the DIY guys. Youtube some tire changing videos, you can do it.

Me, instead of springing for the pricey entire nomar setup, bought the nomar bar for I think $140 shipped, and I use the harbor freight setup for the rest. I recently did the redhead drop in anchors in my garage floor to mount the setup and is removable easily to get it out of the way. But anyway, $200 of equipment paid for itself very quickly and I'm even less ignorant of how things work than I was before.
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Thanks guys for all your great suggestions. The first notable non BMW shop I called delayed when i told them what bike I had and then quickly spurted out 95.00/tire..... NOT! So, I took a chance and called Manhattan BMW for kicks just knowing that my hair would be on fire when they quoted me NYC prices. However, to my surprise, it was 25.00 cheaper than my local dealership in Long Island and they didn't have any problem putting on tires that I ordered from an online retailer. They're also running a spring special on oil changes for 100 bucks, so I feel like I hit pay dirt! Tire change is costing me 150.00 and their going to do both while I wait knowing I have an upcoming ride.

I would really like to invest in a Tire changer, but I don't think I have enough space in my one car garage with two bikes... Maybe the next house

Thanks again guys!!!

As I just mentioned, it doesn't take much of any space if you use the redhead drop in anchors, makes it easily removable with nothing sticking out of the floor after removed.

Lots of youtube vids to learn from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y__tB6_rRM

But in any case, it is bolted to the floor, you just unbolt it when your done and stash it somewhere. Unlike the Nomar setup, which is nice, but bulky I think as for removing when not in use.
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Re: Can you trust a non BMW dealer to change your tires?

I wouldn't use BMW to change tyres. Far too expensive and unnecessary.
I always use a local reputable certified tyre company who will sell, balance and fit them for me with a certified knowledgeable mechanic.
As long as I use the tyre manufacutuers recommended models for the bike I am cool.
Personally I always like Michellin. They get sticky quick enough for me and the Pilot Power series has always done me well on my last bike.
The company I use allows me to hang around and have a chat while he does his work too. Very relaxed and always quality work.
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Take a ride. $40 mount and balance on the bike MVCW Mount Vernon, WA.
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Re: Can you trust a non BMW dealer to change your tires?

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I wouldn't use BMW to change tyres. Far too expensive and unnecessary.
I always use a local reputable certified tyre company who will sell, balance and fit them for me with a certified knowledgeable mechanic. ...

My BMW dealer in Santa Fe is actually one of my cheaper options. The tech is very knowledgeable/methodical and they don't mind me hanging out in the shop. An independent shop wanted a bunch of additional labor for the CF wheels even though they didn't charge any extra the first time they mounted them...if the message was they didn't want to mess with them...message received.
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Re: Can you trust a non BMW dealer to change your tires?

My local BMW dealer (also Honda dealer) does not charge for tyre fitting so long as the bike was purchased from them and you also buy the tyres through them, any other bike they charge $40 per wheel on bike and $25 each off bike regardless of where you got the tyres, our local Kawasaki dealer also does the same, the Harley/Suzuki/Yamaha/Ducati/KTM place charges $65 per wheel with no discount or rebate even if you bought the bike off them, two independents are charging $55 on bike and $35 off each.
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You don't need BMW to change your tires. You could learn to do it yourself. A couple hundred dollars in tools will get you started if you don't mind grunting and groaning to remove and mount them. Less if you are creative and make some of the tools. Speaking of, you can make an adapter to balance the rear wheel for $6-7 dollars out of pvc parts from Home Depot.

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Re: Can you trust a non BMW dealer to change your tires?

JBanks, check out the Cycle Hill changer. I have one and it disassembles easily for storage in the corner of my garage, takes up hardly any space. Pays for itself quickly. Watch the associated YouTube videos and you'll find it's easy to use.

http://www.nomartirechanger.com/Cycl...p/tc-ch100.htm
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JBanks, check out the Cycle Hill changer. I have one and it disassembles easily for storage in the corner of my garage, takes up hardly any space. Pays for itself quickly. Watch the associated YouTube videos and you'll find it's easy to use.

http://www.nomartirechanger.com/Cycl...p/tc-ch100.htm

I have a Harbor Freight Stand/Bead Breaker and a No Mar mount/demount bar. Have around $200 total in it.

I will say that the Cycle Hill changer looks like a quality piece of kit and would probably spend the extra $200 if I had to do ot all over again.
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Re: Can you trust a non BMW dealer to change your tires?

Not much of a dealer selection around me so I took my Gen I VMax to the LBS (Local Bike Shop) for new sneakers. About a month later I noticed the front tire was mounted backwards! A little research later I ordered a N0-Mar knock off...Wicko (or something like that), it was cheap and I had to beef it up with some welds but it's been changing tires now for over 10 yrs without a hitch. An eBay $49 bench top static balancer works very well also. Buying tires on-line from one of the big suppliers (Bike Bandit, Tires Unlimited, etc.) saves even more $'s.

IMO DIY is the way to go, you set your own schedule and you know it's done right.

This reminds me, I have a Wunderlich balance adapter for the K1300S that I no longer need....might's well put it in the classified's.
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Re: Can you trust a non BMW dealer to change your tires?

Here in London my dealer actively encouraged me to use an independent tyre service - got the feeling they were too busy for such a simple task.... Back in the days when I did get the dealer to change the tyres, I don't recall them being massively different in price, but the turn up and fit service from the independent was so much more convenient than having to book an appointment x weeks from the call to the dealer..
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Re: Can you trust a non BMW dealer to change your tires?

Yes, find an independent shop for the work. Any shop has to charge full hourly rates fee whether it is just a tire or they have the camshafts out of the head. And you don't want a complete no nothing doing your tires anyway. There are bolts to be torqued properly, rims not to be scratched that sort of stuff. And you want them balanced. So ask if they have the proper adapter for the rear wheel to do the balance work. I'm sure there are plenty of good shops around a city that large. Make a list of the torque values for the items needed. Front brake calipers, rear wheel bolts, front axle, front pinch bolts are the basics.
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