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Old 02-17-2018, 06:45 PM
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Where to get zip ties for FD boot for 03 K1200RS

Looking for a long and narrow enough zip tie to use on my Final Drive boot. Looked all over locally and can’t find anything that will work. Anyone have any ideas other than getting raped by BMW?

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Old 02-17-2018, 06:54 PM
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Old 02-19-2018, 09:23 AM
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Re: Where to get zip ties for FD boot for 03 K1200RS

I got these 36" ties at Home Depot. I think they will work. Cheap enough.

Gardner Bender 45-536UVBSP

Also at Amazon for $9.88 qty 10.

https://www.amazon.com/Gardner-Bende.../dp/B002YEOUFG
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I got these 36" ties at Home Depot. I think they will work. Cheap enough.

Gardner Bender 45-536UVBSP

Also at Amazon for $9.88 qty 10.

https://www.amazon.com/Gardner-Bende.../dp/B002YEOUFG

These are definately narrow enough ?
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Re: Where to get zip ties for FD boot for 03 K1200RS

I've found zip ties in multiple lengths at Lowes and home depot. You can probably find them at any hardware store.
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These are definately narrow enough ?

Hmmm, I didn't think about that. They are 9mm wide whereas a regular cable tie is 5mm wide.
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Re: Where to get zip ties for FD boot for 03 K1200RS

Where? I must have 50 of them.Where did I buy them would be the question?

Wenatchee? Been there a few times,place sure grew up over the years so most of the big box stores are well represented.Farm stores are always good for zipties.
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Re: Where to get zip ties for FD boot for 03 K1200RS

Gave up with zip ties, unless you buy genuine Ty-Wrap with a stainless steel gripper. The cheap ones with plastic grippers will eventually soften and work loose. This is a BMW you are maintaining, not some rubbish motorcycle!

There are 2 solutions: You can buy long thin stainless steel ties sold for car C.V joints but those tend to be use once only. Then there are the Oetiker type C.V joint straps when can be released but their sizing is critical.

Finally, I gave up on buying something because I wanted re-usable clips: Get some stainless steel sheet and cut off a long length with tin snips 5mm wide to go around the boot. Bend up one end to form a right angle tab and drill a hole in it 2.5 - 3mm. Wrap the band tight around the boot to get the size and bend a tab on the other end about 10-15mm apart. Drill a hole in the second tab, Find a long 3mm screw with nuts and tighten the band around the boot. Job done and re-usable for future inspections!
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Gave up with zip ties, unless you buy genuine Ty-Wrap with a stainless steel gripper. The cheap ones with plastic grippers will eventually soften and work loose. This is a BMW you are maintaining, not some rubbish motorcycle!

There are 2 solutions: You can buy long thin stainless steel ties sold for car C.V joints but those tend to be use once only. Then there are the Oetiker type C.V joint straps when can be released but their sizing is critical.

Finally, I gave up on buying something because I wanted re-usable clips: Get some stainless steel sheet and cut off a long length with tin snips 5mm wide to go around the boot. Bend up one end to form a right angle tab and drill a hole in it 2.5 - 3mm. Wrap the band tight around the boot to get the size and bend a tab on the other end about 10-15mm apart. Drill a hole in the second tab, Find a long 3mm screw with nuts and tighten the band around the boot. Job done and re-usable for future inspections!

I guess BMW must have considered this a rubbish motorcycle then as theyre the ones who initially used zip ties in the 1st place. I dont agree with it, not what I would have used but....
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Re: Where to get zip ties for FD boot for 03 K1200RS

Thank goodness it doesn't have to be oil tight. In fact, it's best to know from a drip here that there is another issue, either with the tranny seal (front boot seal drip) or a pinion seal leak (rear boot seal drip) before things get real bad. That tunnel would hold all the tranny and FD oil combined. I had a pinion seal leak and fixed it before any harm done because I saw the boot drip and rear wheel splatter.

The problem isn't finding a zip tie long enough, it's finding one narrow enough. And with the SS gripper that Voxmagna recommends above. And put the lock at the 6 o'clock.
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Re: Where to get zip ties for FD boot for 03 K1200RS

Regular width ziptie.3/16".

Length is 17 3/4" as per the markings on the package I have.Made in Taiwan of nice supple nylon and good quality.

I don't use them anymore but never had one come loose.I use the proper BMW Noma SS clamps with a BMW logo on them.1990's vintage but altough still available/same part number as in 1990ish the new ones won't fit the Ks.New BMW SS clamps are shorter by 1-2 mm and will only fit on a vintage thinner boot from the early Paralevers.
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Regular width ziptie.3/16".

Length is 17 3/4" as per the markings on the package I have.Made in Taiwan of nice supple nylon and good quality.

I don't use them anymore but never had one come loose.I use the proper BMW Noma SS clamps with a BMW logo on them.1990's vintage but altough still available/same part number as in 1990ish the new ones won't fit the Ks.New BMW SS clamps are shorter by 1-2 mm and will only fit on a vintage thinner boot from the early Paralevers.

You use the SS clamp on your K12 RS? Would you happen to have the part# for that?
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You use the SS clamp on your K12 RS? Would you happen to have the part# for that?

Yes but as I said....applicable to the early Paralevers,88-94ish and BMW shortened them some when they changed "clamp" supplier from Noma to Gemi???Shortened by 2mm??? New ones won't fit the Ks unless one finds the thinner rubber early Paralevers boot.

The ones I use are old are as with most of my stuff......vintage 1988 R100GS.

If you want to try the shorter BMW SS clamp look up part number under 88-94(?) R100GS but I doubt the new ones will work.
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Yes but as I said....applicable to the early Paralevers,88-94ish and BMW shortened them some when they changed "clamp" supplier from Noma to Gemi???Shortened by 2mm??? New ones won't fit the Ks unless one finds the thinner rubber early Paralevers boot.

The ones I use are old are as with most of my stuff......vintage 1988 R100GS.

If you want to try the shorter BMW SS clamp look up part number under 88-94(?) R100GS but I doubt the new ones will work.

I misunderstood.... or dont have the capacity to understand I looked up the SS clamps from some of the older models and ya know what?, your right they are too short!!
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Hmmm, I didn't think about that. They are 9mm wide whereas a regular cable tie is 5mm wide.

I struck again, they are 6mm wide, where did I get 9 from, anyway im still batting a 1000 in the bad info dept.!
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I misunderstood.... or dont have the capacity to understand I looked up the SS clamps from some of the older models and ya know what?, your right they are too short!!

Yes unless you install an early boot,I think swingarms and FD sizing is the same.I have an early boot and all the other parts to try that.Too busy these days.
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I picked up some SS zip ties from a local trucking supply co. They'd 21" though and 5mm wide. I'm gonna give them a shot, non reusable, $9 n change for 10 of emergency.
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