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Old 10-05-2018, 12:44 PM
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Poor parts availability.

Yet again BMW do not have the parts I need .
The Dealership has been waiting for clutch plates for 4 weeks .(and the cost is over £500!)
There are none available in the UK or Germany .
I was told they would be in stock in Germany on the 22nd Sept ,that has now been put back until the 8th Oct (Maybe) ,then another week to get them to the UK .
Because it is a warranty job it has to be the BMW parts .

So BMW do not keep in stock a part that wears and is known to cause problems
,I find this very poor .
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Old 10-07-2018, 05:09 AM
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Re: Poor parts availability.

Barnett clutch plates 150 Euros
Flight ticket, incl return, from Germany to UK. 80 euros.
2 beers - 5 pounds.

I can tell you why they say there is no clutch available.
A: Its end of season, and all the dealerships are getting the bikes in for services
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B: Bikes that are still under "warranty" get preferential treatment / parts allocated.
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Old 10-08-2018, 09:16 AM
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Re: Poor parts availability.

Just had a phone call from BMW .
Parts out of stock in Germany due to supplier problems .
No date for delivery available .
So my bike could be off the road indefinitely.
Does anyone know if any off the aftermarket clutch plates fit the old carrier but with the latter basket .

Mine needs the new basket which they have and the modified oil pump sproket.
But mine being an early bike has to have the Laminar pack that they don't have any of.
I have no idea which parts will fit with each other .
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Old 10-08-2018, 05:39 PM
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Re: Poor parts availability.

Clutch plates from Barnett will fit K12 and K13.
The hub (aluminum part) can be reused and restacked with new plates, unless the first and last clutch plates have already worn a bad groove into the aluminum surface.
Without opening it up and pulling the clutch apart its hard to tell.

The "new" / "current" clutch basket being sold by BMW as a replacement for K12 bikes is that of the K13 series.
Thats why you will need a new Oil pump sprocket too.

Watch my videos and you will see the difference:

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Thanks for that ,
one other question,mine does not have a sprung plate which I belive they added later which replace a normal plate ,does Barnet have this ?
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Re: Poor parts availability.

The sprung plate/bevil spring is again the current clutch setup sold by BMW as a replacement for the K12 clutch pack.

It incorporates the bevil spring, a 3mm steel spacer and a smaller clutch friction plate.

It supposedly stops the plates from sticking to each other and lessens the "clonk" fwhen going Neutral to First gear.

The disadvantage of that setup is, that the narrow friction plate has to take up the same amount of force as the double as wide normal plates.
This narrow plate now eats into the clutch hub even more agressively when releasing the clutch.

I have only have the standard plates and no bevil spring and the clonk is the same as my buddys K13 with bevil spring.

But before you go buying aftermarket clutch plates, open up your pack and see how deep of a groove you have on your hub.
If its more then 0.5 - 0.8 mm then you need a new hub.
The hub is not sold seperately by BMW, only as a complete clutch assembly.
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Re: Poor parts availability.

Thanks .
I now have the bike back.
I will take a look at the clutch .
Thanks for you help .
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Re: Poor parts availability.

Think when it comes to spares age comes into it I have two bikes that are ‘Getting on’ and the last place I go for spares is the dealer.
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Old 10-11-2018, 05:28 AM
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One of the problems is only BMW can supply the Clutch Basket,
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Re: Poor parts availability.

Well there are some interesting posts currently out there that suggests one has to buy secondhand(Basket) anyway and get it modded.

I was never told the truth what is in my 1200(Clutch wise) but stock 12 it ain’t and very good it is.
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Re: Poor parts availability.

The K1200S is an older bike now. You will have to choose if the cost of keeping it on the road is worth it. A complete clutch package in the states is about 2800$. A bike sells for 4000$ or less. In your case I would fit a Barnett plate package and see if it works out. See this thread: http://www.i-bmw.com/showthread.php?t=63263

BMW bikes are not designed to last forever like the Airhead series which has many aftermarket parts sources. Just my thoughts.
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Re: Poor parts availability.

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BMW bikes are not designed to last forever l

. . they were once . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHNZaHcP3eg
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Re: Poor parts availability.

It was some years ago now but a Dutch guy on here contacted me about problems with his clutch and I was far bettered connected than I am now and managed to get hold of a factory circular about what they expected dealers to do about modding the oil supply to the clutch to say I was taken aback is an understatement.

I lost the dam thing when changing over computers but remember being shocked at how poor BM’s R&D must have been on their prototype bikes for the problem not to show up,also the fact that the OP’s bike is a rarity in the UK because of one of those quirks.

Over 10 years ago the Sterling currency crashed against the Euro consequently European bike dealers flooded into the UK buying everything with two wheels my local BM dealer had 12 secondhand pre 07 K’s because the only way to get your money back was to buy the later 07 and P/x your older K model consequently the dealer was in a pickle and currency situation saved them and many more besides hence why you hardly ever see a pre 07 over here in the UK.

Not to say my 07 hasn’t been without it’s issues but marginally with the emphasis on the marginally!! Been a better starting point.
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Re: Poor parts availability.

Thanks .
I now have the latest Basket ,gasket ,bolts and sproket .
I may have to buy the Barnet clutch plates as BMW have no date for the Laminar pack coming into stock.
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