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Sold my Wethead RT so thinking I'm going to order a 2018 XR in the lowered version. Regular version is too tall for me with a 30 inch inseam. New colors and some other improvements definitely have my interest. Including different bars and bar ends, more HP, different Dash layout. Dealer is getting all the info for me now.
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Your RT is one of the finest touring bkes ever made. The XR is a complete hooligan missile which can do everything. Enjoy it when you get it!
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Sold my Wethead RT so thinking I'm going to order a 2018 XR in the lowered version. Regular version is too tall for me with a 30 inch inseam. New colors and some other improvements definitely have my interest. Including different bars and bar ends, more HP, different Dash layout. Dealer is getting all the info for me now.
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How much more HP
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How much more HP
Probably 5 more... that's what the S1000R got, a bump from 160 to 165...
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That's enough to make me happy.
And 100 lbs lighter than your RT...
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Re: XR1000

I have one and removed the emission 4 crap. It is definitely stronger and much smoother with it removed.

Now definitely my nr 1 bike just to get on and have a blast wherever I am going.

This bike leaves no illusions when you get on it. It makes noise, vibrates, revs and will scare you to tell you that it not a sissy twin.

I just love the way this 1000 cc engine makes power.
Flat out throttle just keep on building speed and feels like it is getting stronger the longer
you have the balls to keep it pinned. Mostly I have to chicken out.

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Love my 16 red sled. A bike this much fun has no right to be so comfy too
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Sold my Wethead RT so thinking I'm going to order a 2018 XR in the lowered version. Regular version is too tall for me with a 30 inch inseam. New colors and some other improvements definitely have my interest. Including different bars and bar ends, more HP, different Dash layout. Dealer is getting all the info for me now.
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How much lower? Sorry I meant to ask this question when I asked about the bump in HP. I test rode a 2016 XR and enjoyed the ride except it was to tall, I just don't like riding any bike that I can't flat foot while stationary. I think if BMW lowered it another 1.5 to 2 inches it would appeal to more people.
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How much lower? Sorry I meant to ask this question when I asked about the bump in HP. I test rode a 2016 XR and enjoyed the ride except it was to tall, I just don't like riding any bike that I can't flat foot while stationary. I think if BMW lowered it another 1.5 to 2 inches it would appeal to more people.

I think then it's called S1000R!
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How much lower? Sorry I meant to ask this question when I asked about the bump in HP. I test rode a 2016 XR and enjoyed the ride except it was to tall, I just don't like riding any bike that I can't flat foot while stationary. I think if BMW lowered it another 1.5 to 2 inches it would appeal to more people.
Besides the low version from BMW there are after market lowering kits you could prob get a dealer to install on condition of purchase
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If you sit on the low version of a new GSA you have what the XR is when lowered. It's about 2 inches. Maybe a little more.
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I think then it's called S1000R!

I test rode a s1000r and didn't like the ergos, more relaxed than a RR but still to much forward lean for me to be comfortable.
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Soupy's lowering kit works pretty well based on S1000xrforum feedback.

Handles great in the twisties, and you can tour all day on one.

Quick shifter is a blast.

Easy to perform basic maintenance.

Most everyone says they love their XR.
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Lowering kit kills the center stand and from what I've been able to find out it also voids the warranty.
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XR is totally where it's at. Long haul, no problem. Slice and dice through traffic? Oh yeah! Not as pretty as a 13, but she'll get you there in one piece.

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Lowering kit kills the center stand and from what I've been able to find out it also voids the warranty.
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unless they can prove it caused a failure that is typical bullshit they cannot arbitrarily deny warranty due to modifications here in the US. Go look up the thread where they replaced my engine with a brand new crate engine on an S1RR I bought second hand that was modified with a PC V with auto tune full akro race exhaust and other modifications
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unless they can prove it caused a failure that is typical bullshit .......
True dat. I managed Warranty for an entire continent for 9 1/2 years. Warrant in the US cannot be "voided", period. Modifications that directly cause a failure can result in denial of a claim. My team denied a few, but most modifications have no impact on the quality of the part or the design intent, and therefore have no negative impact on component life.
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I don't think I want to test the warranty issue. I'll buy a 2018 with the lowered suspension. Just found out that it brings the seat height down to 29.9 inches. There is still more ground clearance than my RT.
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Hey its only money and you will have a 2 year newer bike and 5 extra ponies!!
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Hey its only money and you will have a 2 year newer bike and 5 extra ponies!!
That's true. Might as well have fun as long as possible. As they say you can't take it with you.
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Why does the XR weigh 50 lbs more than the S1000R? Where is all that weight??
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ok looking at BMW na on a compare the XR has a 136 watt higher alt, a half gallon more fuel, 1.2 inches more front fork travel so some extra weight there, 45mm larger rear brake disc, a dual piston rear caliper vs the Rs singleand a center stand, prob a slightly heavier rear sub frame to support the top case for 46 lbs difference fueled she hides her extras well
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Heavier rear subframe to support 2 up and 3 loaded hard bags? And does the R have a center stand?
Sounds reasonable... nope, no center stand...
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Edited post above Charlie found her hidden pounds
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Edited post above Charlie found her hidden pounds
So the two bikes are significantly different!!
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Re: XR1000

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I have one and removed the emission 4 crap. It is definitely stronger and much smoother with it removed.

Now definitely my nr 1 bike just to get on and have a blast wherever I am going.

This bike leaves no illusions when you get on it. It makes noise, vibrates, revs and will scare you to tell you that it not a sissy twin.

I just love the way this 1000 cc engine makes power.
Flat out throttle just keep on building speed and feels like it is getting stronger the longer
you have the balls to keep it pinned. Mostly I have to chicken out.

Enjoy the bike.

Exactly what did you remove? Just curious.
(Yeah, things get intense over 9000 rpm. )
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So the two bikes are significantly different!!
Thought of something else the XR has a steering head angle of 64.5* vs Rs 65.4* yet has a 4.3" longer wheelbase I am thinking its swing arm maybe slightly longer also but don't see specs on them. But yes funny how two fantastic bikes that share so much can be so different when you dig into the details. It is enough to give th R a 2.6 0-60 and 9.9 1/4 mile vs XR 2.8 10.2 really interesting to note the same source has the 2011RR at 2.7 9.9 and the 2013 RR at 2.6 9.7 the siblings just aren't far off the RR till you get way up top
http://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicle...-60-mph-times/
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Thought of something else the XR has a steering head angle of 64.5* vs Rs 65.4* yet has a 4.3" longer wheelbase I am thinking its swing arm maybe slightly longer also but don't see specs on them. But yes funny how two fantastic bikes that share so much can be so different when you dig into the details. It is enough to give the R a 2.6 0-60 and 9.9 1/4 mile vs XR 2.8 10.2 really interesting to note the same source has the 2011RR at 2.7 9.9 and the 2013 RR at 2.6 9.7 the siblings just aren't far off the RR till you get way up top
http://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicle...-60-mph-times/
Exactly... and I'll take the comfortable ergos of the siblings over the RR's horsepower advantage, which is virtually useless below 120 mph. These days, I don't often get into that range...
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Exactly what did you remove? Just curious.
(Yeah, things get intense over 9000 rpm. )

Beech, I removed the Acoustic insert in the intake and replaced the standard header with a Acropovic header. That removes the cat and particle burner can under the bike. I kept the standard exhaust because it is as good as the very expensive acra slip on. These mods keeps the A/F sensors. I had BMW also reset my bike's fuel trim value to zero. This makes the ECU adapt the fuel to the airflow after about 200 km of riding through the rev range.

My bike was not running well under 5500 revs because of its emission 4 mapping. Now it pulls from 1000-12000 revs like there is no tomorrow.
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Thanks, resetting "adaptive" values is possible via the GS-911 on many bikes. Not sure if it is with the 911 unit on the new bikes yet though. Good job and thanks for sharing. I'm anxious to take a look at the intake acoustic insert next time I have that area apart.
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