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View Poll Results: What Sport-Touring Tyre do you like
Pirelli Angel ST 1 0.65%
Pirelli Angel GT 17 11.11%
Pirelli Angel GT - A Spec (Heavy Motorcycle Spec) 11 7.19%
Pirelli Supercorsa SP 1 0.65%
Michelin Pilot Road 2 3 1.96%
Michelin Pilot Road 3 11 7.19%
Michelin Pilot Road 4 36 23.53%
Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT (Heavy Motorcycle Spec) 30 19.61%
Michelin Pilot Power 2CT 5 3.27%
Michelin Pilot Power 3 5 3.27%
Michelin Pilot Power Supersport 0 0%
Metzeler M3 3 1.96%
Metzeler M5 3 1.96%
Metzeler Sportec M7 RR 7 4.58%
Metzeler Z8 Racetec RR 2 1.31%
Metzeler Roadtec 01 14 9.15%
Metzeler Roadtec 01 (HWM) (Heavy Motorcycle Spec) 2 1.31%
Metzeler Roadtec Z6 2 1.31%
Metzeler Roadtec Z8 Interact 5 3.27%
Metzeler Roadtec Interact K3 1 0.65%
Bridgestone T30 EVO 4 2.61%
Bridgestone T30 EVO GT Spec (Heavy Motorcycle Spec) 0 0%
Continental Sport Attack 2 0 0%
Continental Sport Attack 3 4 2.61%
Continental Road Attack 2 Evo 0 0%
Dunlop Roadsmart 0 0%
Dunlop Roadsmart 2 1 0.65%
Dunlop Roadsmart 3 6 3.92%
Dunlop Sportmax Q3 4 2.61%
Avon Storm 3D X-M 1 0.65%
Shinko 016 Verge 2x 0 0%
Shinko 010 Apex 0 0%
Michelin Pilot Road 5 1 0.65%
Nobby's 0 0%
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The way you ride I think any tyre is gonna have a mid life crisis!

While I agree with that in part, tyre shouldn't look like this, after about 12,000.


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I agree, after 12'000 kms your tyre should be dead and off the rim
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While I agree with that in part, tyre shouldn't look like this, after about 12,000.



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My last front Roadsmart had a tread separation mid life (6 yrs ago) so haven't used one since.

I'd call it a rooted tyre...
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Michelin Pilot Road 4's for me. I do not get out on twisty roads so my tires do develop flat tops however this occurs after 7,000miles on a set for my style of riding which is not aggressive. 8,000 miles on now and i feel like i can get about 2,000more but thats pushing it.

Either way, i will take Pilot Road 4's over any other tyre any day. They have shown me great performance in rain and because that, it is enough to get my business again. If i were to go to the track, yeah, i would change them but i never do.
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I'm on my 2nd set of Pirelli Angel GTs. I got 13,181 out of the first set. They probably had another 1500-2000 miles left in them, but I was doing a west coast to east coast burn and they would not have made the distance. Both sets are a standard GT up front and an A-spec in the rear. They have great grip and feel: hot, cold, wet, dry. They do require a few miles of warmup when the temps drop below 50F. But they are still consistent and predictable even if they can't hold all the power at those temps. Having said that, I've been running Pirellis since the original Angels came out across 3 motorcycles: Honda VFR750, Triumph 955 Sprint ST and now the K1300S. But at this point I'm wondering when the next tire advance will come and from which manufacturer. Before the Pirellis I ran Bridgestone BT020/021 Rear/Front combo. And before that I'd used a set it Dunlop D207s. Loved them in the dry and hot, but they encouraged sliding both ends and I decided they were better suited to the track than the street. Anyway, I'm pretty sure I'll finish off my current set of tires this summer. Especially if I go with Brentuning to go with my new Akrapovic full race system. Gonna be darkies everywhere as I school the Jersey squids.
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Gonna be darkies everywhere as I school the Jersey squids.

Ha, love this line!!
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Thanks everyone for the riding impressions to help me decide.

Just put on Angel GTs non-A-spec to replace PR2CTs. Significant improvement in handling, much more flickable.
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Well I've just put a set of T30 Evo's on the K13S. I liked these on the XR - they were the OEM tyre and good in the wet and very stable. My second set on the XR were the Roadtec 001 but these were too twitchy. A mate had them on his Kawasaki Z1000 and he felt the same as me. He changed to a ZZR 1400 and changed the OEM tyres for T30s last week when he was over.
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I ran the Pirelli super corsa SC1s and was very impressed with the shape and grip. It was however very soft and I don't think I'd get more than 5k out of it. I can't be quantitative as yet 'cos I had to change it for the Aus rally since it wouldn't get me home again. I put on a set of Bridgestone S20R Hypersports but found them wanting compared to the SC1s. They generate a lot of road noise and get squirrely close to the edge of the tyre and this is reached well before the pirellis. The bridgestones gives substantially better mileage so there is the traditional trade off of grip for longevity

I have a set of Bridgestone S20R Hypersports,squared off in 5300 kms of use.
The front feels sluggish.
They were nice at the beginning,but now i am losing confidece in on the twisties...
We have really rough surface roads here,is more tiny stone chips held together with some tar...
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Germany's Motorrad Magazine (http://www.motorradonline.de/) does very comprehensive Tire Comparison Tests every year and for several years I've used this info to make my tire choices.

In the latest issue (2017/12) they compared the following tires (listed by test ranking results):
1. Continental Road Attack 3 (231 out of a possible 250 pts)
2. Metzeler Roadtec 01 (228 pts.)
3. Pirelli Angel GT (227 pts.)
4. Michelin Pilot Road 4 (222 pts.)
5. Dunlop Roadsmart III (221 pts.)
6. Bridgestone T 30 Evo (214 pts.)

The tires were tested on a new Suzuki GSX-S 750 in sizes 120/70-ZR17 and 180/55-ZR17 (2.5 Bar Fr / 2.9 Bar Rr).

Tires were tested under dry and wet conditions for: holding a line well, traction limits steady state, traction limits under acceleration, steering precision, stability in curves, straight line stability, braking performance while leaned over noting tenancy of the bike to straighten up, and braking performance straight line.

Based on these tests and the individual scores I'm staying with the Pirelli Angel GTs. And you ask why go with #3?

1. The Pirelli scored 2nd overall in wet testing and 2nd overall in dry testing. #1 and #2 got top marks but obviously not in both categories.

2. The Angel GT got top marks in curve stability (18 out of 20 pts.) and traction at the limit (19 out of 20 pts.).

3. All Tires were weighed and the Pirelli A-GTs, as a pair, are the 2nd lightest (10.5 kg). Michelin PR4 was the lightest (10.4 kg).

4. The Pirelli A-GTs had the shortest braking distance from 100 km/h (43.3 meters).

5. Pirelli A-GTs had 2nd lowest Lap Time at the Track.

Now all of these tires are very good versus what was available even 3 years ago but they just keep getting better and better. Your priorities may differ from mine and thus you may prefer #1 or #2 or ??. For me the Pirelli Angel GTs strike the best overall balance of performance trade-offs for the kind of riding I do.
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Germany's Motorrad Magazine (http://www.motorradonline.de/) does very comprehensive Tire Comparison Tests every year and for several years I've used this info to make my tire choices.

In the latest issue (2017/12) they compared the following tires (listed by test ranking results):
1. Continental Road Attack 3 (231 out of a possible 250 pts)
2. Metzeler Roadtec 01 (228 pts.)
3. Pirelli Angel GT (227 pts.)
4. Michelin Pilot Road 4 (222 pts.)
5. Dunlop Roadsmart III (221 pts.)
6. Bridgestone T 30 Evo (214 pts.)

The tires were tested on a new Suzuki GSX-S 750 in sizes 120/70-ZR17 and 180/55-ZR17 (2.5 Bar Fr / 2.9 Bar Rr).

Tires were tested under dry and wet conditions for: holding a line well, traction limits steady state, traction limits under acceleration, steering precision, stability in curves, straight line stability, braking performance while leaned over noting tenancy of the bike to straighten up, and braking performance straight line.

Based on these tests and the individual scores I'm staying with the Pirelli Angel GTs. And you ask why go with #3?

1. The Pirelli scored 2nd overall in wet testing and 2nd overall in dry testing. #1 and #2 got top marks but obviously not in both categories.

2. The Angel GT got top marks in curve stability (18 out of 20 pts.) and traction at the limit (19 out of 20 pts.).

3. All Tires were weighed and the Pirelli A-GTs, as a pair, are the 2nd lightest (10.5 kg). Michelin PR4 was the lightest (10.4 kg).

4. The Pirelli A-GTs had the shortest braking distance from 100 km/h (43.3 meters).

5. Pirelli A-GTs had 2nd lowest Lap Time at the Track.

Now all of these tires are very good versus what was available even 3 years ago but they just keep getting better and better. Your priorities may differ from mine and thus you may prefer #1 or #2 or ??. For me the Pirelli Angel GTs strike the best overall balance of performance trade-offs for the kind of riding I do.

hey mate, its no secret i love Pirelli Angel GT's.
I rode home yesterday in some of the worst rain ever, through partially flooded roads, the Angel GT's did not step out once, solid as a rock, stuck like shit to a blanket all the way home.
And in the dry, once you get to know the tyre, and your bike and its limits, its quite possible to melt the writing off the edge of the tyre on a big K bike. Enjoy!!
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Dunlop Roadsmart III vs Michelin PR4 TV commercial.

I was watching MotoAmerica and saw a commercial claiming that the Roadsmart III retains performance much better after thousands of miles compared to the PR4 per testing on an R1200RT. Googled and found this review cribbing heavily from Dunlop press releases:

https://www.revzilla.com/common-trea...ii-tire-review

After 5k mi wear, lap times at Dunlop test track were 3 sec faster for the Roadsmart III vs PR4.

We had a few votes in the poll for the Roadsmart III, does anyone have comments on their own experience with this tire?
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Just installed a set of Pirelli Angel GT's.
First impression was that they feel more cushioned on the road,probably all new tires feel.
I rode home on the highway in a light rain,no slipping at all on the wet.

I got 6000 km's out from the Bridgestone T30 Evos i've taken off.
The front tire squared off.
The rear worn down to 1,5 mm in the middle.
My riding is mainly on the windy back roads...
They started to be a bit sluggish on the corners.
Long story short,the Bridgestone T30 Evos are not for the extremely rough roads we have here in NZ.

I will report back in a few weeks about the new set of Pirelli Angel GT's.
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Dunlop Roadsmart III vs Michelin PR4 TV commercial.

I was watching MotoAmerica and saw a commercial claiming that the Roadsmart III retains performance much better after thousands of miles compared to the PR4 per testing on an R1200RT. Googled and found this review cribbing heavily from Dunlop press releases:

https://www.revzilla.com/common-trea...ii-tire-review

After 5k mi wear, lap times at Dunlop test track were 3 sec faster for the Roadsmart III vs PR4.

We had a few votes in the poll for the Roadsmart III, does anyone have comments on their own experience with this tire?

Well after about 4500km with the threes with some torturous punishment at certain times{ a lot} on the oz rally, they look solid for another 4000kms in the centre but if i treat them like i did on the rally the edges would probably be toast in another 2000kms we did have quite a bit of rain at the start of the rally and they felt pretty good never had a moment that i thought " what am i doing here ".
As i havent been on a k bike for a few years until the rally that is, I think i will try another brand of tyre next to give it a fair comparison, but no complaints except for a bit of harshness compared to the pirreli gts that Kiwi Mat was running as we swapped bikes for a little while one morning
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just a bit of a test pic, finally getting it worked out
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just a bit of a test pic, finally getting it worked out

You need to work on exposure , the light could be better in this pic ...
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I've been running the Pilot 4's and really like them. Not to mention they give me the best mileage.

The front gets a bit sluggish after a few thousand miles but plenty of miles left in the tires.

5 thousand miles is doable with these tires - anything after that for me the handling has completely gone away.

So why do these tires get sluggish?

Increased sidewall pliability might be compensated for by increased PSI.

Haven't noticed sluggish action with my PR 4 GTs after many miles.
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Another vote from the Angel GT camp!! On my second set and think that for me, they are
My current favorite!! I’m on a 98’KRS and I’m heavy at 250lbs. The best I’ve EVER got out
Of any tires is 6000-6100miles. The fronts are toast before the rear! Angel GT’ have a nice ride, great performance, nice turn in, and last the longest I’ve run on this bike. Tried many!
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Also in the Angel GT camp. Right at 7000 miles on my first set. Mostly commuter miles with about half that on the slab. Center was getting flat on front and rear until a four day trip in the Deals Gap area tended to round up the profile a bit. The front is pretty much done now and the "A" spec rear looks like it still has a 1000 left in it. I'll put a fresh set on shortly.
I would say I'm pretty much a 7/10 rider so I may be a little easier on the rubber than some others. The front is worn down to the wear bars and I definitely feel a degrade in the handling. The A spec on the rear may give a harsher ride but it has given superior wear and for my riding no detriment to handling.
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Where is the Michelin Road 5 on this poll? I have them and so far, they have performed flawlessly.
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Where is the Michelin Road 5 on this poll? I have them and so far, they have performed flawlessly.

I like the performance but will go back to the 4s as the wear has been too quick...not worth the extra dough in my opinion...
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