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Replacement fuel lines 2004 K1200rs.

In 2012, after reading a bit on this forum, I decided to change out the plastic stock quick disconnects with metal ones. At the same time, I thought it would be a good idea to replace the fuel lines, clamps and fuel filter.
I ordered the fuel line kit from Beemer Boneyard and completed the installation.
4 years in, I developed a pin hole leak in one of the lines. Thought it was a fluke, and simply replaced the line. Last fall, just before putting the bike in storage, I noticed a leak from a cracked and failed fuel line (different line).
Was wondering if anyone else had similar issues with replacement lines. Was honestly expecting these lines to last for quite a while without issue.
Any feedback would be appreciated.
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Re: Replacement fuel lines 2004 K1200rs.

Have you told the Boneyard about this and if so what did they say?
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Re: Replacement fuel lines 2004 K1200rs.

Not yet.... Wanted to hear from some other forum members first....If this is isn't a pervasive problem, i'll just buy more line, and plan to replace it every 4-5 years...
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Re: Replacement fuel lines 2004 K1200rs.

FWIW I've not heard of this problem before, but I would still contact the Boneyard and inquire.
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Re: Replacement fuel lines 2004 K1200rs.

I've had my stock fuel lines since 2001 with no leaks. Is your bike stored outside?
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I've had my stock fuel lines since 2001 with no leaks. Is your bike stored outside?

Outside during the riding season, usually with a cover,. Stored in an unheated garage during the winter.
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Re: Replacement fuel lines 2004 K1200rs.

Yes I had cracks on my replacement fuel lines.And they weren't very old then.A couple years so 40-45K miles?

No time to complain when I found that....I drove down to my local autoparts and bought 6' of that excellent 5/16 SAE J30R9 Goodyear with the blue liner and fixed it.

A couple years later,so another 40-45Ks still look like new.
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Yes I had cracks on my replacement fuel lines.And they weren't very old then.A couple years so 40-45K miles?

No time to complain when I found that....I drove down to my local autoparts and bought 6' of that excellent 5/16 SAE J30R9 Goodyear with the blue liner and fixed it.

A couple years later,so another 40-45Ks still look like new.

Thanks for the tip. Was wondering what other alternatives I had. Will try to track down some of the Goodyear tubing.
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Re: Replacement fuel lines 2004 K1200rs.

Same here. And I wrapped all the bends with SS coil spring from a Suzuki cruiser clutch line to keep it from kinking..it was a PITA, but it worked!

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Yes I had cracks on my replacement fuel lines.And they weren't very old then.A couple years so 40-45K miles?

No time to complain when I found that....I drove down to my local autoparts and bought 6' of that excellent 5/16 SAE J30R9 Goodyear with the blue liner and fixed it.

A couple years later,so another 40-45Ks still look like new.
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Re: Replacement fuel lines 2004 K1200rs.

I've had good success with Euro Moto Electrics, for different parts, electrical and otherwise here's a link,

https://www.euromotoelectrics.com/category-s/1895.htm
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Re: Replacement fuel lines 2004 K1200rs.

EMI...BBY,don't know about fuel lines from EMI,that is if they sell any?But they both sell the exact same other parts.

5' of BBY kit is a bit short for the K1200RS.I remember that I had to add some line to that kit to form nice(r) bends.So when they failed I bought 6' of Goodyear and didn't have much left.

OD on the Goodyears is a tad over OEM/BBY so may make the clip retainers a little hard to snap in.Don't know about Gates brand in 5/16" but either is easy to find at most autoparts.Or I'd hope so....!

No need for springs if one starts at the rail and work toward the tank with 6' of lines.Just don't cut the lines to factory lenghts before installation.Easy job. But not according to Clymer,they'd want us to remove the TBs to install fuel lines.....!
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I've had good success with Euro Moto Electrics, for different parts, electrical and otherwise here's a link,

https://www.euromotoelectrics.com/category-s/1895.htm

Thanks for the link. Been having a bit of trouble tracking down the Goodyear hose at any of the local auto parts outlets.
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EMI...BBY,don't know about fuel lines from EMI,that is if they sell any?But they both sell the exact same other parts.

EMI sells lots of useful stuff, including fuel lines, and even pre-bent ones, and clamps. (Check the link in the earlier post.) For example I bought the rebuild kit for the RS Oil/Water pump for about $45 USD, and rebuilt the unit myself, much better than $800 USD for a new one from the dealer, as well as new spark plugs and lines. It's a good source.
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EMI sells lots of useful stuff, including fuel lines, and even pre-bent ones, and clamps. (Check the link in the earlier post.) For example I bought the rebuild kit for the RS Oil/Water pump for about $45 USD, and rebuilt the unit myself, much better than $800 USD for a new one from the dealer, as well as new spark plugs and lines. It's a good source.

Continental fuel line,1.5m so just under 5' if they used a proper metric tape measure?Too short to my liking.

Pricing is well.....over what I paid locally for 6' of Goodyear and I got that in 10 minutes.Might have been even cheaper at the village,they do sell Gates SAE J30r9 in 5/16"/7.937mm.Very common fuel lines that size so available at most if not all autoparts.
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Re: Replacement fuel lines 2004 K1200rs.

Darn fuel leaks....snowblower carb was puking fuel this morning.And just under the muffler...!Glad it wasn't the fuel line.....harder to fish that one through than both lines on the K1200RS.

Snow all blown away so I did a little fueling work on the bike.Injectors off the rail and heading to the cleaner tomorrow for a well needed same day clean/service.


Then I took a few minutes to measure my lines.69" total or 1.7526 m. That is to keep my QDs in a position where I can release them easily through the fairing and no kinks anywhere.Return line mostly,that one was hard to get at before and there are the odd times when I need to refuel my camping stove or give gas to someone in need?

Pressure line is easy from the longer than factory nicely bent line....makes fuel pressure checks a breeze and guaranteed that I will check fuel pressure after any work inside or outside the tank.

Or roadside replacement? Had to do that when I noticed the cracking on the replacement CRP tank to QD pressure line.No need to remove the fairing for that short line but considering that cracking I sure replaced them all the following winter.And ugly what I found on top of the engine where most won't look.
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Re: Replacement fuel lines 2004 K1200rs.

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That is to keep my QDs in a position where I can release them easily through the fairing
Just curious, but what is the point in disconnecting the Quick Disconnects BEHIND the fairing? You wouldn't be able to remove the tank anyway, so just wondering what the point is.

Thanks in Advance, curiously waiting.

Edit: Nevermind, I just finished reading your post and see, fuel pressure checks, and cracked QD replacement.
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Just curious, but what is the point in disconnecting the Quick Disconnects BEHIND the fairing? You wouldn't be able to remove the tank anyway, so just wondering what the point is.

Thanks in Advance, curiously waiting.

Edit: Nevermind, I just finished reading your post and see, fuel pressure checks, and cracked QD replacement.

Fueling the camping stove? Darn....forgot to fill the Primus bottle last year.Had to pipe fuel out of the bike to heat up my beans.And coffee next morning.

Windy/dusty campground too so dust may have gotten at the O-ring and QD leaked sometime after that.I remember that morning,was my birthday and I was at Louis doing some post operation warranty work on his castrated GS and one of the brake banjos was seeping a little.Morning check and all was good but walking by the K got a whiff of gasoline.Tiny whiff but quick fix once I found the spare O-rings under the seat.

BTW....my injectors were out of balance by 5%.And spray pattern was off.Some of that detectable with a pulser/pressure gauge but better going to a specialist,and rather cheap way to bring performance back to specs.My injectors are looking very spiffy now with blue O-Rings and green pintle caps and perfectly balanced.

Spares for the road? Typically a long road for me so well away from dealers,internet,premium gas etc?A few O-rings,a male and female QD,a barbed connector,clamps and a foot of 5/16" fuel line?I can fix fuel leaks on many brands of bikes with that.
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