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Old 07-04-2010, 08:12 PM
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power restricted on some S1000RR's?

I noticed at a local dealership today that the power listing for the S1000RR was at 157ps (approx 157hp afaik). I found that funny since I remember the bike being rated at 190hp. So at first I thought, maybe this was the rwhp... then I saw the K1300R rates at 167ps (or something likt that, higher than the s1krr), and that got me thinking... was this bike restricted in Japan? or is this just the max power that can be made during the break-in period, and thus got around any of Japans possible power restriction laws.

on a side note, BMW apparel is relatively way more expensive in Japan... no way I'm paying over $1200 USD for ANY jacket, much less a textile one.
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Old 07-04-2010, 09:15 PM
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Re: power restricted on some S1000RR's?

Tech specs say that it's rated at 193 hp... however, I think the hp is variable depending on what setting you choose, Race, Rain, Sport or Slick.
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Old 07-04-2010, 09:17 PM
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Re: power restricted on some S1000RR's?

Power is restricted during the break in phase, but I cannot imagine the point of doing it permanently. What would be the point of an S1000RR with only 157PS? Simpler to just buy a K1300S!

(PS is German for PferdStaerke... = Horse Power in German, which is a similar, but not identical, rating as American HP).
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Re: power restricted on some S1000RR's?

157 ps is roughly 155 hp which is roughly what Rain Mode will let you have...

Of course the motorsports color models have more hp.


Oh yeah - on the topic of the jacket, wow. I drove over to Kushitani in Marina Del Rey to try them on. If you can find them they will put the rondels on any jacket. Who knows?


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Re: power restricted on some S1000RR's?

Maybe there are regulations or tax reasons for restricting power. Who knows. All I know is that the specs tag on the S1000RR I saw showed only 157ps for power... Not that you can go anywhere fast in Japan unless you're on a racetrack. Roads are so small...

as for jackets, Kushitani's are nice, but I like RS Taichi's designs better. They sell the Kushitani BMW pants here, but not the jacket. Apparently the jacket is a NA only item.
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Re: power restricted on some S1000RR's?

Didn't think about those restrictions. Aren't vehicles limited to 120mph or something like that in Japan?

Funny about the pants. You can't get them here but you can get the jacket.
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Re: power restricted on some S1000RR's?

Domestic cars are restricted to 200kmph, which is 120. domestic bikes are also restricted. imported cars and bikes are unrestricted... But that still doens't explain why the K1300 has a higher rated power... oh well.

And yes, it's weird why they don't sell the full set of Kushitani leathers on one location. Oh well. I like RS Taichi stuff better anyways.
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Re: power restricted on some S1000RR's?

That power restriction sounds like the level of the bike before the first 1000K check up/service. At that time it is hooked up to the computer in the shop and given the okay for full power availability. (also sounds like the rain setting) beech
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Re: power restricted on some S1000RR's?

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I noticed at a local dealership today that the power listing for the S1000RR was at 157ps (approx 157hp afaik). I found that funny since I remember the bike being rated at 190hp. So at first I thought, maybe this was the rwhp... then I saw the K1300R rates at 167ps (or something likt that, higher than the s1krr), and that got me thinking... was this bike restricted in Japan? or is this just the max power that can be made during the break-in period, and thus got around any of Japans possible power restriction laws.

Rain mode lowers max HP. I kept mine in rain mode for the first 80-90 miles. I was impressed with its quickness even then. First time I put it in "race" mode I got this huge involuntary grin. It is amazingly fast. I have about 800 miles on it now and I'm going to use "The Plug" this weekend. No additional hp, but quicker throttle/engine response.
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Re: power restricted on some S1000RR's?

Belgium comes to mind. They have a 100 hp rule as Germany used to. K12s purchased in Belgium had a different computer program that restricted the hp down to 100 hp. Flash the computer and you were off to the races with the regular horse power rating.
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Re: power restricted on some S1000RR's?

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I'm going to use "The Plug" this weekend. No additional hp, but quicker throttle/engine response.
What is The Plug?
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What is The Plug?
I'm not sure I want to know...
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Re: power restricted on some S1000RR's?

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What is The Plug?

There are 3 readily available riding modes: Rain, sport, and race. For a full on track day or race (with as little intrusion from the bike's computers as possible) one must plug in a special dongle under the seat that allows getting into a fourth (Slick) mode. This mode assumes your are using slicks on a dry track and is very unforgiving. I'm sure its BMW's legal department but I suppose it also makes you think about what you are doing. I've already thought about it though.
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