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Old 07-24-2017, 06:30 PM
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Hello fellow riders, I am currently in South Carolina and a bit confused about the fuel available here, we don't have ethanol up north and racing fuel is not sold at the pumps. What do you guys burn? I saw racing fuel at a local Exon is that the best or would ethanol free be better octane is 89 vs 110??
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Old 07-24-2017, 06:38 PM
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Re: Fuel

Well octane ratings differ from the UK to the US but all I can say is that I will fill up once with 95 and the next time with 98, which is the "high performance" type gasoline over here.
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Old 07-24-2017, 06:49 PM
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In Oz we only use 98 Premium unleaded in a K 13
Do not put ethanol fuel in your bike if you can avoid it
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Old 07-24-2017, 07:01 PM
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In Oz we only use 98 Premium unleaded in a K 13

98 ROZ/RON is the same as 91 AKI in the US.
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Re: Fuel

In the US the manual calls for 91 AKI. 89 can be used once in awhile if 91 can't be found.
You can use 10% ethanol but I try to avoid it.
I have used 87 a couple times in the K1300S. Using 87 is better than pushing it

If you're on a trip it wont hurt to run a couple tanks of 89.
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Old 07-24-2017, 09:06 PM
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Re: Fuel

Here in southern NC we have ethanol free gas and its 90 octane and regular ethanol added gas is 93 octane. The octane free is a little more expensive and more easy to find in coastal towns.
Its still in the mid $2.00 range.
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OK thanks for that... at the local Exon there is Ethanol free at 87AKI (for the boaters) and all the other fuels have 10% ethanol and there is one pump that has leaded racing fuel with the phrase "not for use on public roads".
So i guess it's 10% ethanol premium 91AKI
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Re: Fuel

The closer to Sea Level you are the greater the octane requirement due to being able to develop highest peak cylinder pressure. Typically you won't find high octane fuel in the high altitude States.

A Knock Sensor will help the engine avoid repetitive Knock events but always avoid low Octane Fuel. One can also go to the local Auto Parts Store and buy a small bottle of Octane Booster.

There's also a Smart Phone App that will help you locate Gas Stations that sell Ethanol free Fuel. Typically the Phillips 66 Stations in my area sell Ethanol free Premium Fuel.

Lastly, due to the lower energy (BTU) content of Ethanol, you'll get better fuel consumption (better efficiency) on Ethanol free Fuel. (http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...el-efficiency/)
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I no linger trust the signs about ethanol. Even thiugh they may say there is "none," there is. The government puts it there but don't tell you. Anywho, on a BMW i always use Chevron 93. Highest grade i can get. That is what they have locally.

If you can get race fuel, you could use that but you might want to do some work on the ECU and engine mapping. For example i would love to put Torco 112 Leaded fuel through my bike with a PCV. But that is dreadfully expensive. It would be plenty of fun but not practical unless at the strip or track...which i don't go to.

Chevron, though, has rhe best fuel. My bike does not like Shell, or it's kinda like bad liquor. I don't even pull in past Valero or Exxon or a hole in the road place.

When travelling, Chevron, Love's, Pilot, BP or Shell is what i will put in. Quality fuels.
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Leaded fuel will ruin an O2 sensor and a cat. Don't use it.
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Leaded fuel will ruin an O2 sensor and a cat. Don't use it.


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.... a bit confused about the fuel available here...
If you see ethanol free (or a four leaf clover, or a unicorn, or ... ) go for it but otherwise just put high test in it and enjoy the ride.
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Pull your O2 sensor and get back to us.
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Old 07-25-2017, 11:59 AM
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Pull your O2 sensor and get back to us.

Accepted. Perhaps you missed the part where it isn't practical because in a setting to use it, which i do not go to. One day, one day. If you're going to do something drastic better be prepared for it. No cat, sensors are pricey and not overkill. I've got a service manual and low bills to buy tools. Bring it.


Now, in regards to the topic, you may also use Texaco. Texavo is Chevron fuel at a lower price, kinda. The reading i done points Chevron and Texaco are together so i use TexaChevron most often. I actually don't have to do a U Turn to get into the Chevron than the Texaco
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Can you translate that? I have no idea what you are saying. I just implied that removing the O2 sensor as suggested is a bad idea. Also implied is that one does not ride around at full throttle all the time. A clogged cat and a contaminated O2 sensor does nothing for one's riding enjoyment. Leaded fuel will do both.
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Can you translate that? I have no idea what you are saying. I just implied that removing the O2 sensor as suggested is a bad idea. Also implied is that one does not ride around at full throttle all the time. A clogged cat and a contaminated O2 sensor does nothing for one's riding enjoyment. Leaded fuel will do both.


No, because it would change the course of the thread, which it already had and that was due to my comment. If you wish to discuss this particular matter, please PM.
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I disagree with Thunderhead. The boaters here demanded and got ethanol free for their boats. The ethanol can screw up your boat engine and that is some big bucks. You Do Not want to screw with a fisherman and his boat. You could find yourself swimming with the fish.
Being that you are from Texas I can understand why you dont believe anything your incompetent government tells you. Sad.
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Just as an FYI, the K-series runs just fine without the Cat or the O2 sensor. The bike goes to a default map which is easy to tune with a Power Commander.
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I disagree with Thunderhead. The boaters here demanded and got ethanol free for their boats. The ethanol can screw up your boat engine and that is some big bucks. You Do Not want to screw with a fisherman and his boat. You could find yourself swimming with the fish.
Being that you are from Texas I can understand why you dont believe anything your incompetent government tells you. Sad.

I merely live and ride here, i am from Michigan. Everything is so convoluted these days that you can't be sure what anything really is unless you yourself do it. I guess it has always been that way. When it comes to regulations and what not the sticker may say something but that don't mean it is what it is labled. Look at VW for petes sake. Said their cars passed but not so. Sticker says "ethanol free" but who knows.
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ygan, Stands for you guys are nuts, just buy premium grade brand name gasoline and relax. And don't put aviation gas or 110 race gas in please. Of course non ethanol is nice but just the normal premium version.
And don't buy premium at a little country store that has not gotten a fresh tank fill up in 8 months.
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No Ethanol in Canada?
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