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Old 03-05-2019, 07:28 PM
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R1200C Right Indicator Issue

Hi there

Short description:
The right indicator won't indicate. Wiggling the switch or toggling the indicator kill switch makes no difference.

Long description:
Some time ago the indicators started indicating really fast. Then the left indicator wouldn't switch off unless I pulled the switch back, and then pressed the indicator kill switch. Now the left indicator can be cancelled, but the right has stopped working (The problem has basically moved to the other side). All indicators work if you turn on the hazard lights.

I had a mechanic look at it and he found that the relay switch had some corrosion on one of the 8 pins. He cleaned it and that fixed the really fast indicating, but it didn't fix the right indicator issue.

The question is... Is this an issue that has happened before or what is likely to be the issue?

We are debating if a new relay switch is required or a new right indicator switch. Both of which are expensive, but one might need to be replaced to rule it out

Thanks in advance!

The bike has been owned from new.
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Old 03-06-2019, 01:23 PM
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Re: R1200C Right Indicator Issue

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Re: R1200C Right Indicator Issue

I'd think that you have a bad button switch.Not repleacable as there aren't any aftermarket button switches that I could find that would fit in there.

Mine acted differently....turn signal would go on its own.Gremlins.....!I did dismantle the button switch and got it to work properly for a while.That is until I got back home a few weeks later and pulled the button switch out of a spare assembly and installed it on my bike.

Remove the expensive switch assembly and look at the button switch? Easy to pull that one out but not so easy the dismantling/reassembly.Jump the wires? If turn signal comes on,switch is defective.

Pretty well all the same them button switches all across the BMW model range so may be some broken ones on fleabay that could be scavenged for parts?
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Re: R1200C Right Indicator Issue

You can go to BMW MAX parts list:
https://shop.maxbmw.com/fiche/PartsFiche.aspx
Find your bike and look up the switch part number. Take than number and go back to the opening page where you choose a bike and to the upper right is a "search" box. Check that and paste in the part number. It will show you a list of all the bikes with the same switch. Now you have a plan to help you find a cheap used one on EBay.
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Re: R1200C Right Indicator Issue

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Jump the wires? If turn signal comes on,switch is defective.

Thank you! That's a good thought, I'll get the mechanic to give that a try.

Supposedly they've found a spare relay and a spare switch for sale, but like you say they are both equally as expensive. So it will be good to nail down first which one needs to be replaced, if not at all as it could be just a break in the wiring (which I doubt).
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Re: R1200C Right Indicator Issue

Some progress!

The right switch has been taken apart, WD40'd, and put together again. The both indicators now work! New problem though, the indicators are flashing too fast!

It was a problem before, as mention, but cleaning the pin on the indicator relay fixed it before. So we think that maybe the relay itself might be faulty?
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Re: R1200C Right Indicator Issue

Fast flash is usually a grounding issue somewhere? Could be right at the bulbs/indicators wiring and connectors.

Glad you got the switch sorted out.Expensive assembly if just to replace a $2.00 button switch.Mind you all the same across the model range,as long as it is a paddle type,button switches will interchange.


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Re: R1200C Right Indicator Issue

Thank you! I will have a check - I think moisture might be the cause of that, seeping into the connections.

Ha, yeah. Well done switching it over (excuse the pun!).
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Re: R1200C Right Indicator Issue

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Thank you! I will have a check - I think moisture might be the cause of that, seeping into the connections.

Ha, yeah. Well done switching it over (excuse the pun!).

Moisture? I and the bike sure got flooded on the road a couple times just before the gremlins showed up.Weedy40 quick repair only lasted a few weeks but in the meantime got flooded again.And again....!Gremlins came back for a visit. Disassembled the button in a less than good work environment and got it to work long enough to get back home so a few thousand miles?Acted up again on my last riding day of the season.

Snip snip.....and replaced.
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Re: R1200C Right Indicator Issue

Yeah, the bike has been outside for some long periods over the last year under a bike cover. It is also generally wet in the UK as you can imagine. So I am starting to think humidity as been seeping in.

I do hope the latest fix does stay, though you might be right - it might come back.
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