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How To: Change rear brake pads

Here is my write up for how to change the rear brake pads. The book states you should remove the rear wheel. It is not necessary, but if you have the tools to do it (17mm socket, extension, ratchet and a torque wrench), it doesn't take long to do and does give you more room to work with. I didn't remove the rear wheel for this procedure.

Tool and Supplies needed:
-New brake pads
-Flathead screwdriver (or other pry tool)
-Brake lube
-Small hammer
-Dowel driver
-Rags

Step 1: Get the bike ready.
-Put bike on centerstand
-Remove rear luggage
-Remove rear wheel if you choose to do so
-Gather tools and supplies.

My bike ready to go:


The EBC organic rear pads i chose to use:



Step 2: Remove rear brake pads.
-Using your screwdriver, pop off the plastic cover on the caliper. (The tool i am using is intended to be used on automotive trim pieces i believe)


You should be looking at something like this now:


Note that the 2 pins that hold the pads in extend through the back of the caliper. View from the back.


-Use your driver/drift and hammer to tap the pins out from the back. (yes, i am using a 3/8" entension...)


-The pins should be out like in the picture below. They can now be pulled out the rest of the way with the pliers.


-Set the pins aside.


-Your caliper should now look like this


-Pull off the spring and tab thing left of top of the pads. Set them aside.


-Now we are looking like this. Note that the pads slipped down, not a problem.


-Use your screw driver or prying apparatus to push the pads outwards, pushing the pistons back into the caliper.


-The pads can now be pulled out. This is what mine looked like after 14,702 miles.


-Be sure to pull off the tab thing thats on one of the pads.



Comparing old pads to new pads. My old pads measured at 1mm and 3mm thick (1mm is the wear limit), the new pads are about 6-7mm thick.



Step 3: Prepare new pads and install.
-Put a thin layer of the brake lube on the backing plate and on the sides.


-Also apply some to the pins after wiping them off.


-Slide pads into the caliper, install the rearmost pin, don't forget the tab spring thing that goes between the pads. Don't forget to reinstall the metal tab that does on one pad (note that i forgot it before taking this picture...).


-Install the second pin, make sure the orientation of everything is correct.


-Tap the pins back into place.


-Reinstall plastic cover



And you are done! (mostly)
-Pump the rear brake pedal a few times to push the pistons out a bit.
-The rear brakes won't work 100% yet, they need to be seated. EBC recommends easy braking for the first 250 miles to seat the pads. I usually do about 50 miles easy riding, then do 3 or 4 good, quick slow downs from 55 to 10mph, giving plenty of time for the pads to cool down between runs. After letting them cool completely (over night or such), i ride normal.

Hope this thread helps someone out. The whole process really only takes 20 minutes or so and even less time after doing it once.

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Re: How To: Change rear brake pads

BRAVO Excellent report and writeup! We'll make this a 'sticky" for future use.

One question..you didn't remove any brake fluid from the rear resevoir to assist in pushing the calipers back some?
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BRAVO Excellent report and writeup! We'll make this a 'sticky" for future use.

One question..you didn't remove any brake fluid from the rear resevoir to assist in pushing the calipers back some?


Thanks, it literally took longer to do the write-up than to swap the pads...

I didn't remove any. The fluid was up the "max" line when i started, it went up of course a little when i pushed the pistons in, but will go back down as they wear. If you brake fluid is already overfilled before you start, then you will need to take some out.
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Nice job... these threads are of great benefit to the members!
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That is a 4 star write-up. Excellent photos!
Thank you for taking the time for this subject.
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Hey None, that was an amazing bit of instruction. Could you give Clymer some tips. When are you doing the fronts? Thanks and be damn proud of that presentation. We should get you Powerpoint and a salary.

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Re: How To: Change rear brake pads

Thank you for the contribution new guy . Well written and illustrated. Anyone should be able to do the job with confidence having good reference matarial like that available..

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Thanks guys, glad i could contribute in a small way.

K-Cord, the fronts won't be due for quite a while, fortunently....

Turbocohen, thanks for the sticky, now it feel all special
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Re: How To: Change rear brake pads

Just R&R mine...there was nothing left on them ...42,388 miles and this is my 3rd rear pads since new
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I Just did mine and it was easy, but mine doesnt have the tab thing on it! Could it be that the previous owner lost it? Is it mucho important? Should I not Ride it? I Have been riding it without it since i got the bike (5000 miles)
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I Just did mine and it was easy, but mine doesnt have the tab thing on it! Could it be that the previous owner lost it? Is it mucho important? Should I not Ride it? I Have been riding it without it since i got the bike (5000 miles)
Nice write up by the way, Thank-you

No need to worry, all the tab is there for is to give you a reference of how much the pads are wearing (as the pads wear more, the tab comes closer to the other pad. Since you don't have it, you just have to look a little harder to see how much the pads are worn.
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Here is my write up for how to change the rear brake pads.
Thanks for a brilliant piece of info, could'nt for the life of me figure out how the pins came out,and did,nt want to start hitting things willy nilly! Did'nt need to remove the caliper in the end as the rear wheel comes off and leaves the disc and ABS unit behind anyway.Oh well you live and learn, thanks again, AXELZX10.

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Yup A+ report with great pics. Thanks for taking the time to post it. I am sure it will help lots of folks.

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Great job! I am about to change my fronts and rears this is incredibly clear and well written, thanks again!
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Excellent write up!!!!!! Am do for new pads myself and should be able to do myself per the detailed instructions. Thanks for making it a easy step by step job.

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Put bike on mainstand. Hook a bungee cord around rear brake pedal and pull it over seat and hook the end under gear lever. If it’s not long enough, use two cords end to end. This prevents you from accidentally pushing the pedal and having the brake pistons pop out as far as the disc. Pull off rear calliper’s plastic cover. Go to left hand side of bike with small hammer and drift. ( I know – if you’re used to the way Japanese pad pins pull out with bare fingers, it’s hard to use force on a fragile piece of engineering but it’s the only way as they are a tight fit). Knock the forward pad pin till it’s flush with calliper. Pull it out at right hand side with pliers. Lift out middle short pin which locates spring clip. Knock through and pull out rear pin, being careful to take off spring clip as it becomes free. Assembly is exact reversal of this – i.e. front pin goes in last, after middle pin and spring clip are already fitted. Use copper grease on back of pads and on the pins.__________________



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None, I just replaced my rear brake pads on my K12RS using your method, and it worked beautifully. I chose to leave the rear wheel on the bike, and it was still easy. I did have to remove the rear caliper bolts to get the outboard pad out after it dropped down, but that made it easy to get out. You're right, about 20mins and I was done with the rears. I also did my front brake pads using my Clymer manual, and even with having to remove the calipers, it was no big deal, either. About an hour and a half to do all the brakes. Funny thing is, Clymer's manual advises you to remove some brake fluid from the reservoirs before doing the job, but the BMW service CD I have did not. I chose not to. After I removed the front calipers, I was able to leave the old pads in and pry them apart to push the pistons back using my trusty 24" Craftsman flat screwdriver. Once I was done, a few pumps of the brake lever & pedal, and each was nice and firm. Thanks for your very clear and concise write-up.
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Thank you VERY MUCH for this tutorial!!! It's just what I needed! The Clymer manual left me confused but your instructions are CLEAR! Thank you again!

I have a couple questions though:
If I don't have brake lube, is that a problem?
Will the brakes work fine without it?

Keep up the great work!

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Re: How To: Change rear brake pads

oh, btw. www.beemerboneyard.com has the proper rear pads for $27.95. i use the same routine as u for pad replacement. i've never removed wheels or calipers for front or rear pad replacement. also, i don't worry about rear pad wear.....just replace every 12k. also, every 50k on fronts. rotors are like new, now have 62k on bike.
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Re: How To: Change rear brake pads

I replace mine every 13-15k on the rear. Scrapped the rotor first time at when the bike got to 18,000 miles. 15,000 miles later the same. So now I do it more often. Easy enough to do.

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I think I'll be checking mine this weekend....

It's new to me, was just in for inspection, and I would've assumed they checked them, but....
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Re: How To: Change rear brake pads

Thanks for taking the time to do this "how to"

It is as simple as you said!

Nice and clear pictures and very clear to read. Nothing is missing!


I just checked mine, they are paper thin. Just enough to say there is material. I shall be getting new pads tomorrow.

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Just a word of caution. I bought my rear pads from an independent dealer.
They would not slid in at 1st because the metal back plate was 1/8" wider then the OEM.
I scribed the right width on the new plates and trimmed them flush on my milling machine. The pad material was spot on at all corners and the pin holes were the same.
My inquiring mind just thought that those who have sticking pads or very short life, may check if the pads slid easy in the machined grooves in the calipers. Everything swells up a tad when hot and the pads may not be able to releace enough.
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Re: How To: Change rear brake pads

After reading the post I was surprised regarding the low mileage rear pad change, 15,000 miles? So being curious I went to the garage to check mine on my 2009 K1300GT, I fiqure the rear will be needing a change in about 4000KMs bringing them to 50,000KMs (30,000 miles) the front still have a good 10,000KMs (6000 miles). I remember my brother who had an RS tell me he would get at least the same out of his pads. I imagine at 15,000 miles a lot of city and traffic riding were involved??? Or as mentioned, the pads were dragging, or the foot was resting on the foot lever
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Brokerecord,
I bought EBC FA18, that's what the part dealer had, same as (none) and they fitted like papa in mama!

These rear pads lasted over 25,000 km but the previous owner liked to brake mainly with rear brake. Not good! The front brake I changed the original at 110,000 km and they still had 20% left.

So things are good. They were paper thin in the back, needed badly to be replaced.

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Brake pads and wheel bearings can sneak up on you, especielly if you wear ear plugs.
Every morning I go 2 miles to eat breakfast with a retired mens group. I leave my plugs out just to listen for odd sounds.
I learned about 25 yrs ago to drag brake the rear a second before the front. It settles the springs and keeps the front from diving, (not a problem with the KRS) I use the rear all the time. I nearly waited too long this last time as the pads were thick as typing paper! This was about 40,000 miles.
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Thank you VERY MUCH for this tutorial!!! It's just what I needed! The Clymer manual left me confused but your instructions are CLEAR! Thank you again!

I have a couple questions though:
If I don't have brake lube, is that a problem?
Will the brakes work fine without it?

Keep up the great work!

Dave

Same questions?

But really primary... what's brake lube? Is it same as regular grease?

And wil someone put up the front job for us uninitiated?


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Same questions?

But really primary... what's brake lube? Is it same as regular grease?
"Brake Lube" is generally a silicone paste such as Dow Corning #4 silicone high temperature paste, available at industrial suppliers.

NEVER use standard lubrication grease. Regular grease is a mixture of a "soap" base and ordinary oil. The oil is mostly trapped in the soap matrix. The oil in it can migrate to the pad's friction surface!

Silicone grease is a gel that stays put at high temperatures. A VERY thin film that is spread on the back of the pads can help to reduce brake squeal.

But the caliper design used on the rear of the KRS/GT (and the front and back of the K100) generally doesn't tend to cause squealing, and hence there is usually no need for brake lube.
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"Brake Lube" is generally a silicone paste such as Dow Corning #4 silicone high temperature paste, available at industrial suppliers.

NEVER use standard lubrication grease. Regular grease is a mixture of a "soap" base and ordinary oil. The oil is mostly trapped in the soap matrix. The oil in it can migrate to the pad's friction surface!

Silicone grease is a gel that stays put at high temperatures. A VERY thin film that is spread on the back of the pads can help to reduce brake squeal.

But the caliper design used on the rear of the KRS/GT (and the front and back of the K100) generally doesn't tend to cause squealing, and hence there is usually no need for brake lube.

So Bob... do I skip the lube then?
I was told to use Lithium grease
Is there a diff with Brake Lube and lithium grease?

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I don't think lithium grease will hold up to brake temps too well. The silicone paste seems most common at auto parts stores in the US, but I generally use a tube of German anti-seize copper grease that I've had forever. As Bob says, a VERY thin smear.
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Re: How To: Change rear brake pads

My fave mechanic told me to use lithium grease or high temp grease, lightly, so the pads will slide well on the two rods but if you polished or cleaned the 2 rods, you may go without it.
I would not put as much grease as the pictures show anyway. My 2 cents

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My fave mechanic told me to use lithium grease or high temp grease, lightly, so the pads will slide well on the two rods but if you polished or cleaned the 2 rods, you may go without it.
I would not put as much grease as the pictures show anyway. My 2 cents

Louis,
you got the pads I gathered?

I did and I might just wait for the magical attraction of Atlantic City to wear thin... like my brake pads!

How's the weather?

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So Bob... do I skip the lube then?
I never used it when I changed pads on the exact same caliper that was used on my old K100. If you don't have the right grease, then I'd forget it. Most of the time it isn't needed.

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Is there a diff with Brake Lube and lithium grease?
BIG DIFFERENCE!!!

Lithium grease is just plain oil, mixed into a lithium soap base to thicken the oil. That is why when you open a tub of grease, you often see oil that hs separated and is puddling on top. The last thing you want is for oil to seep out from the grease on the back of your pads, and contaminate the braking surfaces.

Besides, lithium grease cannot stand the temperature generated by brake pads. At this temperature, the lithium soap matrix starts to break down and release the oil it held.

Silicone paste (that is what most brake lubes are) is made from silicone polymers, and silicones of any type have outstanding heat resistance (for example, the space shuttle tiles are attached using silicone adhesives).

So my advice is: use proper brake pad grease (which is generally a translucent, clear silicone paste), or get some of that Dow Corning #4 paste that I mentioned.

Failing that, use nothing!

In any event, do NOT use any lithium grease, or for that matter, any sodium or calcium based grease either. None of these greases are intended to survive brake pad temperatures.
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I never used it when I changed pads on the exact same caliper that was used on my old K100. If you don't have the right grease, then I'd forget it. Most of the time it isn't needed.

BIG DIFFERENCE!!!

Lithium grease is just plain oil, mixed into a lithium soap base to thicken the oil. That is why when you open a tub of grease, you often see oil that hs separated and is puddling on top. The last thing you want is for oil to seep out from the grease on the back of your pads, and contaminate the braking surfaces.

Besides, lithium grease cannot stand the temperature generated by brake pads. At this temperature, the lithium soap matrix starts to break down and release the oil it held.

Silicone paste (that is what most brake lubes are) is made from silicone polymers, and silicones of any type have outstanding heat resistance (for example, the space shuttle tiles are attached using silicone adhesives).

So my advice is: use proper brake pad grease (which is generally a translucent, clear silicone paste), or get some of that Dow Corning #4 paste that I mentioned.

Failing that, use nothing!

In any event, do NOT use any lithium grease, or for that matter, any sodium or calcium based grease either. None of these greases are intended to survive brake pad temperatures.

Thanx bud, I knew I'd get the goods!

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Just a word of thanx to a great guy: Jacques Boissinot who gave up a great riding day to show me how to change my (not yet really worn out) brakepads.
I also did the oil change for the first time with his help.

Went to sleep last night less stupid.
Not much less but hey... some progress is good!

Yeah yeah... I know... a big whooop di doo!


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Louis,

it was my pleasure. I did not lose a day of riding, I had a good day of both riding and helping you with your bike.
It was fun to ride with you afterwards.

And someone took the time to show me how to do it in the past. Great thanks to the original post also.


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LOUIS,

You are ALWAYS welcome to my place for maintenance of your K1200 if it is convenient (or closer) for you.

You know where I live :-)
Just give me a call a few days ahead, unless it is an emergency.
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LOUIS,

You are ALWAYS welcome to my place for maintenance of your K1200 if it is convenient (or closer) for you.

You know where I live :-)
Just give me a call a few days ahead, unless it is an emergency.

Thought you'd show up one of these!

We will be doing those front shocks in Nov. won't we?

Cheers bud
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Jean,
I have to say Louis is well equipped in his garage. And since it is pretty easy to do, brakes, it was a jiffy to do.
Louis now knows how to.

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Jean,
I have to say Louis is well equipped in his garage. And since it is pretty easy to do, brakes, it was a jiffy to do.
Louis now knows how to.

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I just changed out the rear brake pads on my 2003 K1200GT using the tutorial in this thread. It's nearing 3 years since this tread was created, and it's still producing benefits for novices like me. Thank you for going to the time and trouble to help guys you'll probably never meet in person. Just know that your efforts are greatly appreciated.
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I just changed out the rear brake pads on my 2003 K1200GT using the tutorial in this thread. It's nearing 3 years since this tread was created, and it's still producing benefits for novices like me. Thank you for going to the time and trouble to help guys you'll probably never meet in person. Just know that your efforts are greatly appreciated.

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After reading the post I was surprised regarding the low mileage rear pad change, 15,000 miles? So being curious I went to the garage to check mine on my 2009 K1300GT, I fiqure the rear will be needing a change in about 4000KMs bringing them to 50,000KMs (30,000 miles) the front still have a good 10,000KMs (6000 miles). I remember my brother who had an RS tell me he would get at least the same out of his pads. I imagine at 15,000 miles a lot of city and traffic riding were involved??? Or as mentioned, the pads were dragging, or the foot was resting on the foot lever

Folks, I've changed my pads twice in the last couple of years using this post's illustrations/instructions. My KRS just turned 20K. My riding is probably half suburban (Chicagoland) and half highway. Don't neglect to check them rears, as I get less than 10K out of them. And if you follow the instructions, it is a simple half hour project. The brake grease is sold at auto parts stores in little single use tubes for $1. Cheers and keep the rubber side down!
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Folks, I've changed my pads twice in the last couple of years using this post's illustrations/instructions. My KRS just turned 20K. My riding is probably half suburban (Chicagoland) and half highway. Don't neglect to check them rears, as I get less than 10K out of them. And if you follow the instructions, it is a simple half hour project. The brake grease is sold at auto parts stores in little single use tubes for $1. Cheers and keep the rubber side down!
Twice in 20,000miles
That sounds really like a short period...

Mine last way more... I'll look'em up.

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I'm a potential KRS owner, but have had some experience with brakes on bikes.

The picture of the pins included in the instruction look very different from the pins on my two Kawasaki bikes. They are straight and smooth. Is this the way the pins are supposed to look?

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The pins are ok. There are little grooves inside the calipers that match the grooves on the pin. And the spring pressure holds it all together. It ain't broke.
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So Bob... do I skip the lube then?
I was told to use Lithium grease
Is there a diff with Brake Lube and lithium grease?

Thanx

Don't you guys have 'Copaslip' over there? It's copper-based grease, ideal for the back of brake pads and pins.
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Thanks "None", great write up here. The pics really helped. My first time with this, and it went exactly as described.. Even employed the 3/8 ratchet extension - an amazingly versatile tool I might add..
Additionally - I kept the rear wheel on, used "brake lube" from the local auto parts store, But needed to remove a bit of brake fluid from the rear reservoir even after a few good lever pumps, and a short ride. My pads were basically completely worn down, and I had to depress the pistons back, quite a bit, to get the new pads in.
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Four years and two months later - still perfect instructions and still very much appreciated.

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Don't you guys have 'Copaslip' over there? It's copper-based grease, ideal for the back of brake pads and pins.

Yes we do, us oldtimers do, but in the US its not as available as Brake grease. I bought a tube of copperpaste 25 years ago and still have 3/4 of the tube left-just a light smear on the back of the pads. Its very xpensive for a tube hence the $1 tiny tube of brake grease that will last a few brake jobs..
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The fluid reservoir for the rear brakes has gone low in the past days. Mind you I did 1500 miles over two weekends, plus the usual city driving. I checked the small wear indicator and surely the rear pads have worn out. I was afraid they went to the backing plates. I popped the pads and they had about 1mm left. While I was there, I also unbolted the caliper to give it a thorough clean. The caliper was very greasy on the inside and I feared a seal had gone bad. After pushing the pistons back in, and thoroughly degreasing the area with brake cleaner and a clean rag, I was relieved to see that the seals were still good and that the grease was most likely from the previous owner's generous application of grease behind the backing plates. So the bike sits in my backyard of a sunny Monday afternoon with no rear brakes. I called the local BMW dealer and the mofo wants $75 for rear original BMW pads made by Textar (BTW). I said. Thanks. But no thanks. Went on eBay and bought from a Michigan outlet a front and rear sets opf EBC pads for $100.00 + shipping.

So, I put back the paper thin pads into the caliper and will wait a few days to get the new pads by mail. Will ride as little as possible. But hey, it's only Monday.

When I refit the new pads, I will bleed the brakes at the same time and understand how different from an automotive system it is.
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The fluid reservoir for the rear brakes has gone low in the past days. Mind you I did 1500 miles over two weekends, plus the usual city driving. I checked the small wear indicator and surely the rear pads have worn out. I was afraid they went to the backing plates. I popped the pads and they had about 1mm left. While I was there, I also unbolted the caliper to give it a thorough clean. The caliper was very greasy on the inside and I feared a seal had gone bad. After pushing the pistons back in, and thoroughly degreasing the area with brake cleaner and a clean rag, I was relieved to see that the seals were still good and that the grease was most likely from the previous owner's generous application of grease behind the backing plates. So the bike sits in my backyard of a sunny Monday afternoon with no rear brakes. I called the local BMW dealer and the mofo wants $75 for rear original BMW pads made by Textar (BTW). I said. Thanks. But no thanks. Went on eBay and bought from a Michigan outlet a front and rear sets opf EBC pads for $100.00 + shipping.

So, I put back the paper thin pads into the caliper and will wait a few days to get the new pads by mail. Will ride as little as possible. But hey, it's only Monday.

When I refit the new pads, I will bleed the brakes at the same time and understand how different from an automotive system it is.

Lee,
If you are in need to ride, I have a spare NEW set here for the REAR that I will not need until end-of-summer (located south-shore of Montreal). The one I have is from Carbon-Lorraine as sold at BeermerbBoneYard for $US 30
http://www.beemerboneyard.com/cl2332rx3.html

Just let me know...
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Thanks for the offer. I'll cross my fingers the weather gets really shitty this weekend and I'll have no choice but to stay home ;-)

Nonetheless, I'd be interested consulting you (10 minute on the phone max) in regard of the bleeding procedures as whatever I read seems over complicated. BTW I have took good notice of the four bleeders on the ABS/modulator, as well as the 4 lines on the side, with one seeming to have a bleeder. I am used to bleed brakes on cars, even with ABS and the process is very simple using a pressure bleeder. I am even very good at that. I am simply not getting why it is that complex on that bike. Maybe I didn't catch something ;-)
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Re: How To: Change rear brake pads

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Thanks for the offer. I'll cross my fingers the weather gets really shitty this weekend and I'll have no choice but to stay home ;-)

Nonetheless, I'd be interested consulting you (10 minute on the phone max) in regard of the bleeding procedures as whatever I read seems over complicated. BTW I have took good notice of the four bleeders on the ABS/modulator, as well as the 4 lines on the side, with one seeming to have a bleeder. I am used to bleed brakes on cars, even with ABS and the process is very simple using a pressure bleeder. I am even very good at that. I am simply not getting why it is that complex on that bike. Maybe I didn't catch something ;-)

No need to bleed because level was low UNLESS it went below MIN mark and you suspect some air got in the system. BUT, a good idea to do a full bleed if you are unsure of the maintenance history of that bike. There is anecdotal evidence that IABS unit that are not used enough (bike always in garage) or that are not bleed every year, will fail more.

I am assuming that you have found the detailled procedure on this site on the "How-to bleed Integral ABS (IABS)" with all the pictures ans instructions. Can also be found in the BMW service manual but is NOT in Clymer.

I am sending you my phone number in a private message on this web site...
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