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Old 08-05-2009, 02:07 PM
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What would you change on your bike?

OK, you bought a K12 / K13 ?
What would you change about it? What's going to (assuming you've not modified it) make it the perfect bike (for you)?
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Old 08-05-2009, 02:19 PM
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Re: What would you change on your bike?

Real cruise control would be nice!!!
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Old 08-05-2009, 02:31 PM
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Re: What would you change on your bike?

I didn't vote for "weight"... I would love it if this bike could shed 50 lbs, but that would put it down close to the weight of a pure sport bike, which I think is unrealistic for a sport touring bike with a long wheelbase... but definitely engine management and cruise control!!
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... but definitely engine management and cruise control!!
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Old 08-05-2009, 05:35 PM
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Re: What would you change on your bike?

The only way I could be happier was if my K1200R came with a free F800GS.

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Old 08-05-2009, 06:40 PM
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Re: What would you change on your bike?

I voted for engine management. There are a few other items that could be better but a nice running engine would be great.
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Old 08-05-2009, 07:03 PM
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Re: What would you change on your bike?

for as much as one pays for the bike

ohlins suspension front / rear

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Re: What would you change on your bike?

Answers given are for the KS.

Only thing I would change on the GS is suspension, oh and the cost of maintenance.
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Re: What would you change on your bike?

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OK, you bought a K12 / K13 ?
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Decent engine management and a decent upside down fork with no 25k replacement interval ball joints! Then it would be better than perfect!
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Re: What would you change on your bike?

Fit and finish for me...like everything about the bike 04GT...BUT..the major fasteners need to be finished with a coating that wont rust..ie rotor screws, caliper screws, peg pins
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:58 PM
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At the moment just a simple thing for me: I'd like it to go where I point it!
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Re: What would you change on your bike?

Weight. Everything on the bike works better when it's lighter.

Suspension. Stock was a little too harsh on bumps. Not compliant enough. Too long of a wheelbase. Too lazy a steering geometry.

Fueling. Cracking the throttle on and off into and out of fast turns upset the chassis too much. Don't care TOO much about how it rides below 30 mph. I just needed better throttle control at "my" limit.

Reliability. Or the impression real or perceived of impending trans/FD/ring/etc failure. Knock on wood, so far so good.

Customer relations. For the most part, the dealers seem to think they are doing you a favor when you need your bike fixed.

I could use a supercharged 200hp engine. Nice round number. After the above was fixed.

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Re: What would you change on your bike?

A smoother (and quieter) shifting transmission in all gears would be nice. ESA shocks that were less expensive to rebuild for those who want them. The PCIII fixed the bad engine mgmt and Ohlins improved the suspension.
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Re: What would you change on your bike?

I can live with it, but: the only thing I would like to change is the gearshifts in the first three gears. Common, I know. They all do that, I know. It is for me the unpleasant issue on an otherwise perfect (for me) bike.
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Re: What would you change on your bike?

K1300GT:
The seat should be slightly concave on top instead of convex - this applies to all stock BMW seats. I have never seen anyone's posterior that would match up with the shape of the seat.

The cost of service and dealer BS is the remaining part. For example, the first service should be included in the purchase price of the bike. This should not be up to the dealer, it should be included from BMW as part of the cost of a new bike. It's really required for warranty anyway, so why the heck not? I know you can win the battle if you want to, but if it was included, who would not take advantage of it? I only paid about $200 to get mine done, and it was a lot of work. I didn't watch the whole time, but I did take a peak and saw how much they had to take off the bike when changing the fluids including the rear wheel that has to be re-torqued when it is put back etc.

I decided not to whip the still-deceased equine of the controls. I've been through severe, heavy rains and aside from popping the cruise on/off slider off in one of those thunderstorms, I have had no trouble. When I got home, I was able to fix the cruise switch without any difficulty in about 5 minutes - this despite the Nashville BMW service manager telling me it was not possible to do so.
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Old 08-06-2009, 11:05 AM
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K1300GT...

First thing that needs to be done is the seat. This is probably one of the worst seats I've had on a new bike. I just dropped my stock seat off at Sargent yesterday to have it 'custom' built. So far, that is my biggest complaint. Hopefully, I've got that resolved. I'll know in about 2 weeks when I get it back.
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Re: What would you change on your bike?

I voted "Nothing my bike is perfect".. now that I've modded it up with all the goodies. The only thing I'd change now is my color, might have to paint it red someday.

Sure am glad we have cruise control on the GT!

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I'd put a Busa motor in it. At least it would run right.
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Old 08-19-2009, 01:21 PM
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Re: What would you change on your bike?

Two things on my 07 GT
1-I'd put the shifter closer to the peg by half an inch.
2-I'd rather have a less clunky transmission, my RS 98 is so.. smoooooothh..

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Modify the left rear peg/bag support so that one can get the heel closer to the center axis of the bike and avoid shaving the boot in thight left handers.
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Re: What would you change on your bike?

the only change to my '02 KRS is the wt & 1 more gal of gas OH MY looks like the new GT is in the pic
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Re: What would you change on your bike?

Seat height and peg placement. For a short rider the K1200RS is almost impossible to back up. It is probably due to the handlebar placement also. I have very little leverage when leaned forward and the pegs hit right behind my leg so I have to spread my feet apart and have no power to push backwards. I am very strong so it is not a strength problem. I hear a lot of people say they love BMW's but they are too high. I would think the Germans would get the message and make a shorter version of their sport touring bikes. No other bikes come close for performance in this class of bikes. They could really have a winner if they made a version for women and short men.
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I'd like to change the angle of the hand grips. They make me turn my wrists at an angle that is uncomfortable/painfull after a couple of hours. That's it. Love the '03 K1200RS that I have. Re"cycle"aroad..
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It would be nice to de-klunkify the gearbox, and also make the clutch COMPLETELY release so it doesn't go Bang when you put it in gear!
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I want my old BMW turn signal switches back or I wish the single signal switch activated with a softer touch. beech (waiting to see the switches on the 2010 model)
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Re KRS: weight! Then again us gals are always conscious of that Would love to see more bikes in the "sport touring" classification with various cc's.
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It would be nice to de-klunkify the gearbox, and also make the clutch COMPLETELY release so it doesn't go Bang when you put it in gear!
I've been very slowly engaging 1st, maybe taking 10 seconds to drop it in. It almost never clunks in then.
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I put "Nothing, I love it!" But, upon reading everything in the list, I'd ask for a smoother shifting tranny.

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Decent engine management and a decent upside down fork with no 25k replacement interval ball joints! Then it would be better than perfect!
You shouldn't have to replace ball joints at 25K. The "ball joint" that is referred to in the bike's maintenance is the MUFFLER-to-HEADER-PIPE ball joint clamp, and has nothing to do witih suspension.
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You shouldn't have to replace ball joints at 25K.

Shouldn't...that is the key word, isn't it? Since mine were in the dumper at 20K (Well, actually before that but I just "endured"), I'll hope that in 20K more I won't experience the same thing...again.
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My '03 K1200 RS is approaching its required 12M mile maintenance. As I am retired, on fixed income, and I have mechanical experience plus time on my hands, I would prefer to do most, if not all of the required service - as I did on all of my previous airheads. However, it seems that many of the service items, even simple brake fluid replacement, require specialty tools and training - if not an experienced mentor to oversee these operations. Considering the high price of dealer service, this bike's maintenance is all but cost prohibitive - at least on my budget. Although I realize that the newer bikes are more mechanically sophisticated than their predecessors, I would prefer that they be designed to allow owner/riders to perform required service, if they are so inclined. As with my old VW's, I feel more secure riding and more in sync with a bike that I've maintained and know inside and out.

I agree that the newer K bikes are head and shoulders better than anything I've ever ridden. However, anyone under six feet tall is at a distinct disadvantage when stopped or maneuvering with feet down. I would incorporate some adjustment or elective add-on / modification to accomodate shorter riders.
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Be nice if I could change the final drive oil using a simple drain plug and have real cruise control.



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Re: What would you change on your bike?

I also voted nothing to change .

But after 5000 km on my K1300R , I will have to say the rear view mirrors .
I can't seem to be able to adjust them and I dont see fuck all !!!
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I have an 07 K1200GT. I liked the first set of Metzler Z6's that went 9k and the second set is doing well. 40 front, 42 rear. A&S changed my clutch without complaining. I have 18,000 miles on it and have had 300 mile days between Sacramento and the coast or north to Redding and back. OEM seat, cruise control that is as good an anything in a car (Honda, Dodge or Ford) and an engine that makes me feel like Senator Palpatine roasting Mace Windu while bellowing, "Unlimited POWER!" Graphite is the fast color.
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Re: What would you change on your bike?

The engine management is absolute crap. The low speed fueling is criminal, and the stalling is dangerous. That would be my #1 change. I already fixed the seat with a sargent seat..muuch better, could ride all day if it weren't for the crappy fueling and stalling.

It would also be nice if the fuel gauge was close to accurate and didn't tell me to fill up with 2 gallons remaining.

It would also be nice if the dealerships knew how to fix problems instead of having to hear back from Germany for everything (which takes months at a time). A little troubleshooting would be great.
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Only thing I would change on the GS is suspension, oh and the cost of maintenance.

When ya got multiple bikes you don't bitch about cost of maintanance...
That's an oxymoron.
If ya can afford to buy them... put up and shut up.
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I also voted nothing to change .

But after 5000 km on my K1300R , I will have to say the rear view mirrors .
I can't seem to be able to adjust them and I dont see fuck all !!!
A friend of mine who tried my bike said the same .

Martin

The bike was designed not to look back there bud!

No time for that!

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Two things on my 07 GT
1-I'd put the shifter closer to the peg by half an inch.
2-I'd rather have a less clunky transmission, my RS 98 is so.. smoooooothh..

One thing on my RS 98 Taxi:
Modify the left rear peg/bag support so that one can get the heel closer to the center axis of the bike and avoid shaving the boot in thight left handers.
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Hey Chuck

Why haven't you done that yet?

You've been retired for a year now!

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As for my K12, I'd make it rougher runnin'.

Too damn smooth, it is...

Every time I get off the K, and get back on the GS, I keep thinkin' how flippin' smooth the other is...

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Hey Chuck

Why haven't you done that yet?

You've been retired for a year now!

Cheers bud!

Have been working hard this summer. ... And used the remaining time to ride my two wheled horses...May be this winter I will think about it.

"One thing on my RS 98 Taxi:
Modify the left rear peg/bag support so that one can get the heel closer to the center axis of the bike and avoid shaving the boot in thight left handers."

I am stunned that this forum never talked of this design flaw on the RS.
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Have been working hard this summer. ... And used the remaining time to ride my two wheled horses...May be this winter I will think about it.

"One thing on my RS 98 Taxi:
Modify the left rear peg/bag support so that one can get the heel closer to the center axis of the bike and avoid shaving the boot in thight left handers."

I am stunned that this forum never talked of this design flaw on the RS.
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J'ai ridé toute la semaine autour d'icitte.
Veux-tu en faire une petite aujourd'hui?

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The bike was designed not to look back there bud!

No time for that!

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Cou'donc , on est en feu ce matin !!!

C'est tu parce que ta douce moitié te garde en dedans tant que la cuisine est pas finie , et qu'elle menace de pas t'en donner durant le temps des travaux , que tu tires sur tout ce qui bouge ...

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Cou'donc , on est en feu ce matin !!!

C'est tu parce que ta douce moitié te garde en dedans tant que la cuisine est pas finie , et qu'elle menace de pas t'en donner durant le temps des travaux , que tu tires sur tout ce qui bouge ...

Retourne travailler mon fatiquant !!!

Yé temps de faire mon changement d'huile...
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Only one thing, the incredibly stupid CanBus regulated outlet. It is absolutely useless. In fact I already have changed this to a Powerlet being fed by the battery.
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My '08 K12S is very near perfect. It has a slight "surge" between 15-1900 rpm (first gear) and when the temperature goes above 26*C, it will give a good 'clunk' when shifting from neutral to first gear in spite of my best technique. It must weigh about 260kg (575 lb) with a full tank, which isn't a problem in the garage or at low speed. It has great stability at high speeds and is reasonably handy through the "twisties". I have "refined" the rear license plate bracket.

But, why doesn't it have a rear tire hugger??
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I also voted nothing to change .

But after 5000 km on my K1300R , I will have to say the rear view mirrors .
I can't seem to be able to adjust them and I dont see fuck all !!!
A friend of mine who tried my bike said the same .

Martin

happen the same on K1200R i had, KS mirror is much better
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The only change I might wish for would be some better electronic countermeasures (ECM) gear. I'd like something that would detect and either jam or shut down incoming radar or laser and flash me a big light so I could hit the brakes. I probably could get down into quasi-legal speeds in two seconds or so, at which time the ECM would shut down. The opposition would not be able to get a solid lock until I was at legal speed, and then there would be no problem.

It would probably take too many amps to have a system that would make the radar or laser unit melt, but that would also be really cool...

A minigun for Bambi would be nice.

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Let me know when you want to borrow that wrench to bleed the ABS unit. I ride often to NC. The maintenance program is ridiculously over the top on these bikes but what can you do about it other than complain.
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My '03 K1200 RS is approaching its required 12M mile maintenance. As I am retired, on fixed income, and I have mechanical experience plus time on my hands, I would prefer to do most, if not all of the required service - as I did on all of my previous airheads. However, it seems that many of the service items, even simple brake fluid replacement, require specialty tools and training - if not an experienced mentor to oversee these operations. Considering the high price of dealer service, this bike's maintenance is all but cost prohibitive - at least on my budget. Although I realize that the newer bikes are more mechanically sophisticated than their predecessors, I would prefer that they be designed to allow owner/riders to perform required service, if they are so inclined. As with my old VW's, I feel more secure riding and more in sync with a bike that I've maintained and know inside and out.

I agree that the newer K bikes are head and shoulders better than anything I've ever ridden. However, anyone under six feet tall is at a distinct disadvantage when stopped or maneuvering with feet down. I would incorporate some adjustment or elective add-on / modification to accomodate shorter riders.
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Maybe change the angles on the fairing using some sort of radar absorbing materials for it as well and maybe a cow catcher for bambi that can field dress and quarter it would be nice too.
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The only change I might wish for would be some better electronic countermeasures (ECM) gear. I'd like something that would detect and either jam or shut down incoming radar or laser and flash me a big light so I could hit the brakes. I probably could get down into quasi-legal speeds in two seconds or so, at which time the ECM would shut down. The opposition would not be able to get a solid lock until I was at legal speed, and then there would be no problem.

It would probably take too many amps to have a system that would make the radar or laser unit melt, but that would also be really cool...

A minigun for Bambi would be nice.

Seeya
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