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Old 09-08-2018, 03:53 AM
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Oil change fail

K1200S Oil change fail !

Guys, my first oil change. I did a 'old style' oil change - ie drop sump plug, drain oil and change filter, all seemed good until I bottled up old oil up for disposal, there was only 1L. Looking at what I had put back in, approx 2.3L !

Looked further and now know I needed to drain the tank, so in affect I did a partial change, but whats with the extra 1.3L of oil ??

I have run the bike for a few minutes, got 2 bars on the temp gauge and all seems fine - but where is the extra oil ?? Am I going to do damage ?? any ideas ??

I checked the level before doing the change and it was correct.

Only had the bike for 2 weeks and am loving it, just want more road time !!
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Re: Oil change fail

Your post is a bit unclear. After you drained the sump did you also locate the oil tank under the seat and drain it. How much oil did you drain in total. How much did you put back in?
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Re: Oil change fail

Man...oil capacity is 4 qts. You have to drain the oil tank to ensure all oil is out!


I used to pull the main hose off of the bottom of the oil tank, but that gets really messy,


so now i use a suction oil changer to suck all the oil out. Hope this helps.
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Re: Oil change fail

Or, as per the owners manual, pull the tube off the fill hole on top of the tank and work it down below the bottom of the tank. Aim it out so it can drain into your catch pan and let the tank drain out. Then refill.


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Re: Oil change fail

Here is a good plan:
http://www.i-bmw.com/showthread.php?t=53144
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You really need a reprom DVD or at least ask for advice BEFORE you start anything. Iíve found on beeners that things arenít always what they seem.
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Re: Oil change fail

Looks like the OP thought he was dealing with a wet sump motor and not dry sump.
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Thanks all who replied.

I knew there was a tank under the seat, and had removed the cap, I just expected any oil in there to drain through the big feed pipe at the bottom into the engine (not sump). I did actually google doing an oil change, to check for any tips, but the vid I watched did not mention draining the tank. I will have to find it again and put in a comment to help other noobs.

Anyway, after a few hours of worrying, I started again, leaving the new filter in place of course. Sump plug out - lots of oil came out !!!!!! I did not measure it but it was at least 3 times previous. Drained the tank using the level viewing tube, it took forever as the bike was cold, and got another ~ 1/2 L

I then put just over 3L back in to get the correct level. It was too late to start the bike so left it. Next morning ran it for a few mins and checked the level, and had to add some.

So all is well , had a 2 hr ride and no problems. Checked the level a few times, was just over full, so I drained some. It appears some may have been released from the filler cap vent ? where does this dribble out ?? no where near the tyre I hope.

So I have a mix of old and new oil now ! I guess I will just change it earlier than 5K.
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Re: Oil change fail

Sounds like you have it sorted. Just one more small point. After filling with oil the DVD says to run the bike for 20 seconds only, to check the oil level
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Re: Oil change fail

Thanks Capt

I have been trying to find the BMW service info online, do you have a link ??

Or is the idea to get to a dealer and get the DVD ?
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Re: Oil change fail

Ask questions here on line, or search for things like oil change. There are no on line dealer info sheets. Your oil system is called a "dry sump" oil system. Most of the oil is in a tank. A small amount in the bottom of the engine. All done so the engine can have a smaller bottom. The plan is to drain the liter from the sump. Then drain the remainder from the tank, the little sight tube can be carefully pulled from it's clip and aimed down to drain. Many have suction tanks to stick a tube into the tank via the fill cap and suck out the oil in there. Glad you are doing your own work. Use a new crush washer on your drain plug and a torque wrench so you do not over tighten it and cause problems. That same torque wrench will do 98% of the rest of the bike work.
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What weight oil are you using. Should be 5w40 and NOT a car oil with friction modifiers. Your riders manual probably says 10w40 but this was amended due to clutch issues.
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Re: Oil change fail

Thanks again, where do you find this information ??

Yes I used 10W40
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Thanks again, where do you find this information ??

Yes I used 10W40

You will get the info from either your BM dealer or off here,the sad reality was BM weíre learning on the hoof and we the customers were their guinea pigs and along the way BM changed the spec oil to 5/40(long story short)which also meant the cam chain tensioner couldnít hold the thinner oil so there was a recall and we all had new ones fitted.

I havenít used 10/40 since 2010 and engine/clutch/cam chain tensioner have been good with 5/40.
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Thanks Chris

We are a little warmer here in Australia !

I priced a Service manual / CD Rom here, $160 , pass !!
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