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Old 08-09-2017, 01:39 PM
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Final Drive Seal Failure

Hi,
My 2014 k1300s had a replacement final drive assembly due to corrosion under warranty 15 Months ago. It has just been recovered due to a sudden and major leak of the drive oil all over the rear brake and tyre. I was very lucky not to have an off.
Has anyone else experienced this sudden failure and the dumping of drive oil?
My concern is that if the seal does fail, on someone else's bike,in such a catastrophic way that it is highly likely to cause an accident.
As I say I was very fortunate to have had a couple of twitches from the rear and pulled over to investigate, but had I gone into a left hander then It would have been a definite off as the left side of the rear tyre was covered in oil.
Anyone experience this?
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Old 08-09-2017, 01:45 PM
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Re: Final Drive Seal Failure

Not sure if this is how to post a photo or if it will work but here is an image of the leak....


Last edited by Lee : 08-10-2017 at 11:01 AM.
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Old 08-09-2017, 03:00 PM
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Re: Final Drive Seal Failure

Mine has seeped 2 or 3 times, never gushed. Be careful when you wash it to never squirt a jet stream of water directly at it.

If you have a seep, it is also user repairable fairly easily, according to some here.:

You were very smart, and quite right not to ride it, gushing, OR seeping!
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Re: Final Drive Seal Failure

Is it leaking at the black plastic ring, or the other side of the final drive next to the wheel?
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Re: Final Drive Seal Failure

Hi,
It is leaking the other side next to the wheel.
Bmw are looking at it now. I will up-date when they come back with a result.
Just for future reference is the photo available using the above link?
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Re: Final Drive Seal Failure

I cannot see the pic

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The requested URL was not found on this server. Thatís all we know.

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Re: Final Drive Seal Failure

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Just for future reference is the photo available using the above link?

I tried to fix the link but I deleted it somehow
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Hi, I think this should work....ctrl and click


https://goo.gl/photos/SvYam9Ms8ntuNEE29
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Re: Final Drive Seal Failure

Hi,
Just had a call from the dealer and it was a sudden and catastrophic collapse of the rear drive bearing. This caused the seal to burst and dump the drive oil over the rear brakes and tyre.
Just waiting to hear if it will be covered by BMW under a goodwill submission. The whole drive was replaced 15 Months ago by them and has done 13,000 miles.
They have been very good to me in the past so fingers crossed.
Has anyone heard of this happening before? It's a little worrying......
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Re: Final Drive Seal Failure

Just found this previous thread, same problem...

http://www.i-bmw.com/showthread.php?t=29930
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Re: Final Drive Seal Failure

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Hi, I think this should work....ctrl and click


https://goo.gl/photos/SvYam9Ms8ntuNEE29


Holy mother of goodness, that's crazy! Thanks for sharing!
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Re: Final Drive Seal Failure

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Just waiting to hear if it will be covered by BMW under a goodwill submission. The whole drive was replaced 15 Months ago by them and has done 13,000 miles.
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BMW parts have a 2 year warranty and I believe the labor is covered for 1 year.
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Re: Final Drive Seal Failure

Thought I had done an update on this thread but neglected to...
BMW replaced the rear drive bearing and oil seal, Fitted new brake pads and new rear tyre as it was impregnated with oil. All under goodwill. Also they must have been worried about me taking the matter further due to the safety implications of having oil all over the rear brakes and tyre and offered to pay £100 towards a meal for me and Mrs!! how is that for service.
Much to her indoors disgust I used the £100 to put a new front tyre on instead...
Also the BMW technician identified that the front wheel bearing was on the way out so I replaced that as well. Just done a major service on it, all valve clearances were within spec (33000miles).
Took it out on a blast and the tyre pressure warning light came on. Turns out the alarm/tpms module needs replacing!! it seems to be a never ending money pit!
Think I ended up with a Friday afternoon model......
Still wont ever part with it though as its still a fantastic bike no matter how unreliable.......
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Re: Final Drive Seal Failure

You got a new tyre fitted and now the TPMS Receiver box is faulty?
Highly unlikely.... if the box were faulty, the warning would have been on instantly once you turn the key.

The sensor(s) is either low on battery or got damaged when the tire was fitted.
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Re: Final Drive Seal Failure

No it failed after about 100 miles, the light came on so I pulled over to check the pressures which were fine. When I got home i plugged in the gs911 and it could not communicate with the controller. I also noticed that the alarm would not function either.
I took the controller lid of (4x screws) to check that it wasn't anything obvious, even checked the rechargeable battery's which had full charge.
I initially thought the same as you but bmw plugged in their kit and concluded that the control unit had failed and needed replacing.
so I am awaiting the unit to be fitted next week. Luckily I can still ride the bike in the mean time.
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Re: Final Drive Seal Failure

Had the out-board, away from the wheel start spewing at 26k miles on my 2010 K13S. I was at the Deals Gap area and out on the twisties for three days when I noticed it. Wasn't sure how much gear lube had escaped at that point so elected to trailer it home.
No dealer in town so I made a run to Louisville to get replacement seal. R & R went well in my garage and found that it didn't loose that much oil, but better safe than posting on the final drive failure poll.
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