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Henry David Thoreau’s words “simplify, simplify” are aptly aligned with the “café racer” culture that has captured the fancy of a good many motorcycle enthusiasts. The movement is vested in a yearning to recapture the pure, uncomplicated essence of riding, with roots in a simpler time when motorcycles were unencumbered by the plethora of technical gadgetry inherent in modern machines. In 2013 BMW helped usher the retro category to new heights with its immensely popular R nineT Roadster.

For 2017, BMW broadens the scope of its retro-inspired “heritage” lineup, creating two new models for the Roadster’s stable: the BMW R nineT Racer and the R nineT Pure. Preserving the essential theme, both bikes use the R nineT as a base platform, sharing a frame and the stalwart Boxer Twin engine. From there, however, the two have distinctly diverse characters.

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Re: The New BMW R nineT Racer and Pure Motorcycles are Simply Sublime

I like the Racer.
While at South Sound BMW today I sat on one.
At that point fantasy clashed with reality.
Reality is the body no longer folds, bends or tucks the way it used to.
I still like the fantasy part though.
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Re: The New BMW R nineT Racer and Pure Motorcycles are Simply Sublime

It's a very cool looking bike in the flesh, and the R Nine seems to have been a success judging by how many I see around the continent. I think it connects with riders who in the past wouldn't have dreamt about riding a BMW.
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Yes, I also sat on one just a couple of weeks back in a BMW dealership, and damn.... the thing looks sweet! I really want one, but I don't think I can afford this now.
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But, but but...it's not a K
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No, it's not a K and it's not an oil head either, it's an air head. 😜 But I want one. Maybe after I help my kids with their education if I survive that I'll reward myself.
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No, it's not a K and it's not an oil head either, it's an air head. 😜 But I want one. Maybe after I help my kids with their education if I survive that I'll reward myself.

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No, it's not a K and it's not an oil head either, it's an air head. 😜 But I want one. Maybe after I help my kids with their education if I survive that I'll reward myself.
It is an oilhead (I guess technically a hexhead). Not an airhead.
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Very true my friend, I have to temper my urge to spend money when I already have a ride. It may not be anywhere as cool as a R9T Racer but it serves its purpose and I do enjoy it (the K75). 😊
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I stand corrected; I knew it was some hybrid of those.
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It is an oilhead (I guess technically a hexhead). Not an airhead.
Thank you so much Mike.
NowI have to consider changing my avatar as the RT I ride now is no longer an oilhead but I hesitate to use: Waterhead

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I like the looks but wish it had the current engine and forks.
Chevy, Ford, and Dodge use modern engines in their retro cars, not sure why BMW does not do the same on all these retro bikes.

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Oilhead, I actually think calling yourself "Airhead" has a terrific sense of humor and it has that inside joke thing, that actually makes it cool - if you're in the know.
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Lee, I have watched a few reviews on YouTube of the R9T Racer and they all seem pretty pleased with the bike. I get what you're saying but the engine seems to appeal to most buyers. I think the higher end Ohlins forks should be an option.
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Lee, I have watched a few reviews on YouTube of the R9T Racer and they all seem pretty pleased with the bike. I get what you're saying but the engine seems to appeal to most buyers. I think the higher end Ohlins forks should be an option.
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Those Ohlins forks are available as an option the other BMW R9Ts, but not the Racer.
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Those Ohlins forks are available as an option the other BMW R9Ts, but not the Racer.
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I assume this means your RT is liquid-cooled.
Yeah, waterhead seemed to be the natural progression from airhead to oilhead to hexhead, but I guess that was a PC bridge too far, so wethead it is.
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I assume this means your RT is liquid-cooled.
Yeah, waterhead seemed to be the natural progression from airhead to oilhead to hexhead, but I guess that was a PC bridge too far, so wethead it is.
''50%water50%BMWspecialcoolantHEAD'' being a little long....I'll stick to OILHEAD for now
Besides, I made a living selling oil (and coolant) for BIG OIL for many years.
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''50%water50%BMWspecialcoolantHEAD'' being a little long....I'll stick to OILHEAD for now
I haven't studied the liquid-cooled engine's cooling system(s). Do they circulate engine oil through the cylinder heads to help cool them (which is how the "oilhead" engine got its nickname) or do they rely only on "water" coolant circulating through the cylinder heads?
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I like the looks but wish it had the current engine and forks.
Chevy, Ford, and Dodge use modern engines in their retro cars, not sure why BMW does not do the same on all these retro bikes.
I'm still trying to figure out why BMW still makes the hexhead-based bikes at all. Is it any reason other than just to have a lower-priced flat-twin in the showroom (which would explain the calipers and the forks)?
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I'm still trying to figure out why BMW still makes the hexhead-based bikes at all. Is it any reason other than just to have a lower-priced flat-twin in the showroom (which would explain the calipers and the forks)?
You're probably right about the lower price.
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I haven't studied the liquid-cooled engine's cooling system(s). Do they circulate engine oil through the cylinder heads to help cool them (which is how the "oilhead" engine got its nickname) or do they rely only on "water" coolant circulating through the cylinder heads?
No more oil circulation nor oil cooler, the coolant is circulated trough the heads, from and to two small radiators. BMW says the new RT, GS, are 70% air cooled and 30% water cooled.
Now,that does not help on the choice of my avatar, does it?
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No more oil circulation nor oil cooler, the coolant is circulated trough the heads, from and to two small radiators. BMW says the new RT, GS, are 70% air cooled and 30% water cooled.
70/30 sounds more like the air/oil cooling ratio on the oilhead engine, but may it also apply to the liquid-cooled engine. Difficult for me to see how BMW is getting 70% of engine cooling from air flowing over cylinders/heads with little finning, but maybe so.
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70/30 sounds more like the air/oil cooling ratio on the oilhead engine, but may it also apply to the liquid-cooled engine. Difficult for me to see how BMW is getting 70% of engine cooling from air flowing over cylinders/heads with little finning, but maybe so.
I've seen the ratio as 65/35
Re the little finning, well, it's one inch deep on the front area of both cylinders, anyhow, other than city riding in hot weather, the radiator fan never kicks in.
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