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I bought a new computer and am preparing to transfer my stuff over. In reviewing my Documents and deleting a ton of stuff...I came across this:

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Subject: NHRA Top Fuel Dragster
This is an interesting comparison.

First, some useful info:

One NHRA Top Fuel dragster 500 cubic inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than all the cars in the first four rows at the Daytona
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Under full throttle, a Top Fuel dragster engine consumes 1½ gallons of nitro methane per second; a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced.

A stock Dodge 426 Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive the dragster's supercharger.

With 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition.

Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.

At the stoichiometric 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture for nitro methane the flame front temperature measures 7050 degrees F.

Nitro methane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.

Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.

Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After 1/2 way, the engine is dieseling from compression plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow.

If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block inhalf.

In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds dragsters must accelerate at an average of over 4G's. In order to reach 200 mph well before half-track, the launch acceleration approaches 8G's.

Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have completed reading this sentence.

Top Fuel Engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light.

Including the burnout the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load.

The redline is actually quite high at 9500 rpm.

The Bottom Line; assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimated $1,000.00 per second. The current Top Fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.441 seconds for the quarter mile (10/05/03, TonySchumacher).

The top speed record is 333.00 mph (533 km/h) as measured over the last 66' of the run (09/28/03 Doug Kalitta).

Putting all of this into perspective for you bikers: You are riding the average $250,000 Honda MotoGP bike. Over a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the RC211V hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and past the dragster at an honest 200 mph (293 ft/sec). The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that moment. The dragster launches and starts after you. You keep your wrist cranked hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him.

Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1320 foot long race course.
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As amazing as those figures are, most of this info is now obsolete. The nitro cars (Top Fuel Dragster and Funny Car) only run to 1000' now instead of a quarter mile (1320'), because they need the additional distance to slow down. Many of the dragstrips were built when the cars were going much slower.

The 1000' records now are:

Top Fuel Dragsters: 336.57 mph; elapsed time 3.628 seconds;

Funny Car: 339.87 mph; elapsed time 3.793 seconds.

These nitromethane burning engines produce in excess of 11,000 horsepower... that's not a misprint... 11,000+ HP!!

http://www.enginelabs.com/news/video...00-horsepower/

If you've never been to an NHRA drag race, you really should check it out... you truly have to see it to believe it!!
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Very cool indeed. The tolerances these engines run at are nothing short of amazing.
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Impressive stats.... drag racing is truly an original American pastime.

Drag racing has certainly come a long way from the days of "Big Daddy" Don Garlits and his Swamp Rat & Don “The Snake” Prudhomme and his Mongoose.
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Really! 336 MPH in one thousand feet! I remember when Mickey Thompson had a four-engined (Pontiacs, I believe) streamliner that would do 300 MPH, barely, after using miles of the Bonneville Salt Flats. I made a Revell model of that futuristic thing back in the early 60's.

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I made a Revell model of that futuristic thing back in the early 60's.
Boy, those were the days! I built a few of Big Daddy's dragsters & lots of funny car models when I was a kid. My dad built a shelf around my entire room so I could display all of them. That was when a 9 year old could go into the hobby store & buy all the Testers airplane glue you wanted to put your models together or squeeze it all into a paper bag & huff it! Now you have to be over 21 to buy anything like that.
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"Under full throttle, a Top Fuel dragster engine consumes 1½ gallons of nitro methane per second; a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced."

If we could put four of those monster motors on the 747... that would be one hell of a takeoff!

Good article!
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I always found this interesting .... from the track you can't hear a funny car shift (if they still use 2 speeds as they did in the 70's) but from the parking lot 1/2 mile away you can hear the shift plain as day.

And yes, a 17 year old can sleep against the timing tower at Bristol during top fuel qualifying, be awakened by the TN HP and be sober. BTDT.
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I always found this interesting .... from the track you can't hear a funny car shift (if they still use 2 speeds as they did in the 70's) but from the parking lot 1/2 mile away you can hear the shift plain as day.
Current funny cars and TF dragsters only have one speed... what you're hearing is when the clutch goes from a controlled slip to full lock...
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Fremont Drag strip 1970 1/4 mile grudge racing on Friday nights. I used to have a blast with my giant 64 Impala SS. 327 , Muncie close ratio 4 speed with Hurst competition Plus shifter, 411 positraction. As big as she was my best time was 15 flat at 100.4 mph. I still have my time card. No not real fast but mine.
I still catch the drag races on tv but I saw for the first time 4 wide races. That is totally coolio.
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You guys got me thinking of 75/80 Dragway so I asked the google and found out it's history. This is where I watched the guys scream down the strip. Looking back it sure was slow.

https://bangshift.com/bangshift1320/...ull-see-today/
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Fremont Drag strip 1970 1/4 mile grudge racing on Friday nights. I used to have a blast with my giant 64 Impala SS. 327 , Muncie close ratio 4 speed with Hurst competition Plus shifter, 411 positraction. As big as she was my best time was 15 flat at 100.4 mph. I still have my time card. No not real fast but mine.
I still catch the drag races on tv but I saw for the first time 4 wide races. That is totally coolio.

Spent many Friday nights racing there. 68 Camaro 396-375hp 4 speed 488.
Get all pumped up then head back to home Daly City looking for races on El Camnio.
Great fun!
I think that Fremont was turned into a mall or house development.
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Current funny cars and TF dragsters only have one speed... what you're hearing is when the clutch goes from a controlled slip to full lock...

The way the tires grow at speed acts like a CVT though. Sort of.... Really cool.
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Spent many Friday nights racing there. 68 Camaro 396-375hp 4 speed 488.
Get all pumped up then head back to home Daly City looking for races on El Camnio.
Great fun!
I think that Fremont was turned into a mall or house development.

I grew up in Millbrae, ECR was my home. McDonalds in SSF to McDomalds in Belmont. I remember running in Half Moon Bay Drag Strip and of course the shortened 1/8th mile Champion Speed Way where I saw many racers run out into the SF Bay mud cause the run out was too short. Short lived raceway. So much fun.
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I grew up in Millbrae, ECR was my home. McDonalds in SSF to McDomalds in Belmont. I remember running in Half Moon Bay Drag Strip and of course the shortened 1/8th mile Champion Speed Way where I saw many racers run out into the SF Bay mud cause the run out was too short. Short lived raceway. So much fun.

Yup, mid 60s to mid 70s, that was pretty much my running area too.
There was an A&W near the Hillsdale mall also.
Brotherhood way near Lake Merced was a hot spot in late 60s.

Lived in San Mateo for a few years before moving outta Cal.. Hobart ave then Prospect Row.
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Impressive stats.... drag racing is truly an original American pastime.

Drag racing has certainly come a long way from the days of "Big Daddy" Don Garlits and his Swamp Rat & Don “The Snake” Prudhomme and his Mongoose.

I used to watch them on Saturday's wide world of sports back in the day ...

Doesn't that age us...
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Yup, mid 60s to mid 70s, that was pretty much my running area too.
There was an A&W near the Hillsdale mall also.
Brotherhood way near Lake Merced was a hot spot in late 60s.

Lived in San Mateo for a few years before moving outta Cal.. Hobart ave then Prospect Row.

Did ya have a 442 back then? Musta been some fun filled times...
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Did ya have a 442 back then? Musta been some fun filled times...

Back then it was the Camaro described above.
The 442s didn't come home til the '80s.
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Back then it was the Camaro described above.
The 442s didn't come home til the '80s.

Hey bud, you gotta pic of tthat beast?
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Yup, mid 60s to mid 70s, that was pretty much my running area too.
There was an A&W near the Hillsdale mall also.
Brotherhood way near Lake Merced was a hot spot in late 60s.

Lived in San Mateo for a few years before moving outta Cal.. Hobart ave then Prospect Row.
I have lived on Barneson Ave for 38 years. One block south of Hobart. A&W was on the corner of 27th and ECR.
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Hey bud, you gotta pic of tthat beast?

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I have lived on Barneson Ave for 38 years. One block south of Hobart. A&W was on the corner of 27th and ECR.

I was about half block off ECR.
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To my sorrow I didn't have a camera back then so no pics of the Camaro

But you did have a Camaro with a 396 in it!!!
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But you did have a Camaro with a 396 in it!!!

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