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Old 03-15-2015, 10:45 PM
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So WHAT IS the replacement for the K1300S ?

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Interesting comments about the weight of the bike. IMO the bike's weight is not the issue. The issue is the suspension geometry that makes the bike feel a bit heavy and a bit slow to turn. A new KxxxxS needs to handle better in order to compete with the heavier but more nimble competition. With well sorted suspension the weight will not be an issue. Has to maintain it's stability though.

Other ************************les are the vibration at certain revs. There should be a factory top box. I had to go the Krauser route. I do 175 miles a day on my K and tank just gets me to work and back, but yea I spend ages filling it right to the top with that tiny air hole.

As for cruise control, ok fine but these days that's not enough. I want adaptive cruise control that adjusts speed automatically. Too much to ask?

Agree with all the other suggestions. I want my K to be kinda the ultimate sports tourer. it has to be able to do everything including two up fully loaded touring to being the most awesome sports tourer in the world. I never want a car to be able to out drag me, even when commuting to work every day, I have to be the boss , and that guy I see on his ZZR1400 (I think) shouldn't be able to out drag me

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So WHAT IS the replacement for the K1300S ?

Well, all is only pure speculations and wishes for now. Would be good to be in the Exec Management room in Munich to listen to their projects...
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So WHAT IS the replacement for the K1300S ?

Sadly, it appears that BMW plans to phase out the 1300 slant 4 motor. It seems that they believe there isn't enough interest or sales to continue a performance sport touring bike. BMW thinks the 1000cc can be made to do everything, except touring, where they have the 6 cylinder 1600cc. I'm not mentioning the R engines. IMO, no way to consider any R a performance motor. They're left with a liter motor with no grunt, a 6 cylinder that's too heavy, expensive, and without power, and misc R motors that shake and don't have enough HP. I just rode my K13S yesterday. I'm so in love with the scream of the 1300 at 11K. What a great sound with the Akra pipes. I plan to ride the K13S until all the fresh ones on the used market are gone. Still, nothing better out there.
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I just rode my K13S yesterday. I'm so in love with the scream of the 1300 at 11K. What a great sound with the Akra pipes.

I would have said it with the exact same words!
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I think i'll be keeping mine now. dealer told me yesterday that Australia has already received it's last shipment of K1300's
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Here in Belgium there are only the Motorsport and Black editions available. Less choices... looks like it's the empty the shelves situation... :-(
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I do hope the men from Munich are reading this - all I'd want as an improvement is a nice factory-fitted wicker picnic-basket styled top-box, with refrigerated cooling for the good bottle of Riesling and chicken sandwiches I always take on my days out.
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I do hope the men from Munich are reading this - all I'd want as an improvement is a nice factory-fitted wicker picnic-basket styled top-box, with refrigerated cooling for the good bottle of Riesling and chicken sandwiches I always take on my days out.

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Here in Belgium there are only the Motorsport and Black editions available. Less choices... looks like it's the empty the shelves situation... :-(

From the BMW US web page, those are the only two options here also.
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Here in Belgium there are only the Motorsport and Black editions available. Less choices... looks like it's the empty the shelves situation... :-(

Well the design had a pretty good run, about 11 years. I still remember those Face The Power ads. https://m.youtube.com/watch?autoplay=1&v=eq_tUmzItBU
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Well the design had a pretty good run, about 11 years. I still remember those Face The Power ads. https://m.youtube.com/watch?autoplay=1&v=eq_tUmzItBU

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"Sadly, it appears that BMW plans to phase out the 1300 slant 4 motor. It seems that they believe there isn't enough interest or sales to continue a performance sport touring bike."

There is plenty of interest and sales in a performance sport touring bike....but those that are interested are buying ZX-14s and not K1300s. Kawasaki is selling boatloads of them along with the Hayabusa, they dominate that market segment. If the K1300 was closer to 13K out the door, I think they would sell. At 18K, it's time to pull the plug. Not enough interest at that price. Nice enough bike. Too much money.
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If there was an up dated KXXXXS (and not a 6 cyl) I would go down today and turn in my new GS and pay what is needed. Yes, out the door 20K$ is over priced. With the Euro down some maybe that could be re thought. But my 09 K13 will have to do extended duty. It has new cam shafts now and is ready for some more miles. I hope this segment is not abandon. There has been no advertizing for these bikes for years, its technology is very tired, no wonder sales are down.
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This is my personal wish list for the replacement although I plan on keeping my K13SHP for ever.
200HP 150lbs torque just for rounding out sake.
8 speed gear box with shift assist up and down.
Cruise control
More than just 3 settings for the ESA. Two more softer rides would be better. Comf mode is still way to stiff for me.
Slightly larger gauges and much larger computer screen.
Forged wheels standard.
Softer and more comfortable seat. My K11RS had a much more comfortable seat than this rock they call a seat on my K13S.
Higher handlebars from the factory so you don't need to add risers.
A wind screen that actually does something.
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I think i'll be keeping mine now. dealer told me yesterday that Australia has already received it's last shipment of K1300's

And I'm sure a dealer wouldn't lie
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"K1300S is the most refined sport bike I have ever had the pleasure of riding" -Wolfman

That is the slant-4 K in a nutshell!

When I purchased my K12R I wanted all the excessive, never legally usable horsepower/speed of my 2000 Yamaha R1; but with the clean, quiet "refinement" of a drive shaft, and a torque curve that got serious much lower in the rpm scale. The K gave me everything I wanted as well as an innovative front suspension that IMO rules in 'real world' road conditions and demands.

Whether I'm cruising her over hill & dale trotting along at 4000rpm in 6th or galloping off an apex at 8000rpm in 3rd the slant-4 K will do it all day with never a disappointment. It ain't the lightest, the fastest, the most powerful, quickest handling or even smoothest motorcycle; but it gives up precious little to any who are; no matter what their forte.

The R1200R-RS as well as the S1000RR-R & XR are all brilliant; but after 40 years of motorcycles the combined charms of the IL slant-4 K has me totally jaded.
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But my 09 K13 will have to do extended duty. It has new cam shafts now and is ready for some more miles.

Beech, what happened to the cam shafts?
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Camshafts: at 72, 000 miles, 60% of the lobes had pitting. A couple had pits clear across the pressure face and others single or multiple pits. I felt that total face failure was not out of the question. So, I found a used but like new set from a German Ebay vendor who seems to break bikes down for parts. I was concerned but turned out for no reason, a very honest guy who sells what you want and expect. Price was super, 205 Euros including postage. I would have had to pay $1500 here for new ones. Took 8 hours to install being the putts that I am.
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I'm not convinced we have seen the last of the K1300's....... Maybe they dissappear for a few years and come back, maybe our BMW dealers are full of BS and need to push the new 1000cc range, maybe it's just foolish wishful thinking on my part....
But if it is the end for now, these bikes are going to hold their value very well, maybe it's time for me to start saving for the cruise control to be installed (not sure where they will hide the box on the R model.)
Or , Buy a new one and leave it in the box untill I kill this one.....Yeah I wish!!!!!
I could have bought a kawasaki ZX14 (heavy) or a Busa (fugly) or a yamaha 1300(heavy, no character).. When will BMW learn that this K1300 series is the perfect sports tourer for many of us, and we don't want anything else.
Anyway..... Had my Rant!!!! We will see what happens.

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Camshafts: at 72, 000 miles, 60% of the lobes had pitting.

Ouch. Have you heard of other 1200/1300 bikes with cam problems?
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Ouch. Have you heard of other 1200/1300 bikes with cam problems?

No but a senior tech said I should ask for help from BMW, good will, as he had heard of others. I wrote that off right away and did my own thing. If you don't do your own valve checks you will not know unless you ask for an inspection of the lobes. I found it early, sort of.
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KiwiMat, I'm with you. I think there will be another. I will ride mine and save my money. If needed buy a used one. But I doubt if I'll buy another BMW until there is resolution or old age hits me hard which is just not that far off these days.
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No but a senior tech said I should ask for help from BMW, good will, as he had heard of others. I wrote that off right away and did my own thing. If you don't do your own valve checks you will not know unless you ask for an inspection of the lobes. I found it early, sort of.
What is the effects on performance/operation with these pitted cams?
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What is the effects on performance/operation with these pitted cams?
None until they fail. If it wears quickly enough (between maintenance checks) you might notice a miss if firing at idle. When a lobe rips apart, the metal flows through the engine.
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Back to topic - sorta. April issue of BMW ON is out. Page 34. Article entitled, Motorad reaches new sales high. The author lists in order of sales volume all 2014 models (almost). The K1300 S/R is not even listed at all. That means that the Maxi-Scooters outsold the K bike. Those of you thinking the next K Bike is in the works should probably adjust your thinking. I hope I am wrong, but the lack of sales does not look encouraging.
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K riders!, we need a couple of sesions of group therapy !!
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My local dealers agree with WPV, no shoppers are even looking at the K1300 R/S. Their K1300 R/S buyers come in knowing what they want and order. Shoppers are looking at the 1000 or the six. They will sell a couple of K1300 R/S this year and maybe next year, but will not have one on the floor because they are afraid they will be stuck with it.
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Second that.

Sure, there are less expensive sport-tourers out there, but they don't offer the same level of build quality and ride dynamics. These other bikes feel cheaper & look cheaper.
I never get the same satisfied feel on these lesser machines.

I spent the majority of my youth ripping around on sport-bikes and sport-tourers before moving on to Adventure bikes. The K-bike was my return to the segment after 10 years away.

The K1300S offers a great front suspension, single sided swing arm, a supreme engine and very classy styling. The other bikes simply don't offer the same combination of attributes. It truly is a unique machine. I've never been a big BMW fan - I guess that's still true - but I am a BIG K1300S fan.

I've had the bike about 14 months now and am very impressed with it. Just my viewpoint. The only way I'll sell the bike is if I decide to move away from the segment again - and living in Oregon, the lure of the Adventure bike (and the prodding from my buddies) is ever-present. Those dogs.
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Back to topic - sorta. April issue of BMW ON is out. Page 34. Article entitled, Motorad reaches new sales high. The author lists in order of sales volume all 2014 models (almost). The K1300 S/R is not even listed at all. That means that the Maxi-Scooters outsold the K bike. Those of you thinking the next K Bike is in the works should probably adjust your thinking. I hope I am wrong, but the lack of sales does not look encouraging.


Corporate herding of the masses. BMW is convincing consumers to pay the same or more for arguably less. They have given up real innovation for cheaply produced electronic glitz that is both UNrepairable and cost prohibitive to replace after its 3 year/36000 mile warranty.

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So what's going on? I really want a KS or similar, don't want a K16 or a GS particularly (haven't ridden either but just don't want to go there). I resist buying a KS at the moment because of the imminent EOL or change, so what to do?

I personally think now that the K13 bikes days are truly numbered. The s1000 platform is taking over with cheaper alternatives. The new sthou rr has enough gadgets on it to feign 'sport touring' credentials, .

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Just got back for a service appointment at IS for some recalls on the switches on my K13S and was talking to Brent while I was waiting, He said BMW told him the 2016 will be the same as the 2015's and that the only reason sales were not on fire for them was he can't get enough of them from BMW to sell. So much for all the BS about it going away. They will still be available, with no real changes, and still in demand. I wouldn't trade mine for any other motorcycle made or car for that matter. This is the best machine I've ever owned and driven including a shit load of Ferraris.
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Just got back for a service appointment at IS for some recalls on the switches on my K13S and was talking to Brent while I was waiting, He said BMW told him the 2016 will be the same as the 2015's and that the only reason sales were not on fire for them was he can't get enough of them from BMW to sell. So much for all the BS about it going away. They will still be available, with no real changes, and still in demand. I wouldn't trade mine for any other motorcycle made or car for that matter. This is the best machine I've ever owned and driven including a shit load of Ferraris.

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[ "The K11300s is a niche bike, exotic, expensive and in a class with a lot of cheaper competition."[/quote]

isn't MSRP on most s1000rr's at 17K or more? i see the s1000rr as less bike for just about the same amount of money that you would spend on a k1300s.
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Back to topic - sorta. April issue of BMW ON is out. Page 34. Article entitled, Motorad reaches new sales high. The author lists in order of sales volume all 2014 models (almost). The K1300 S/R is not even listed at all. That means that the Maxi-Scooters outsold the K bike. Those of you thinking the next K Bike is in the works should probably adjust your thinking. I hope I am wrong, but the lack of sales does not look encouraging.


Corporate herding of the masses. BMW is convincing consumers to pay the same or more for arguably less. They have given up engineering innovation for cheaply produced electronic glitz that is both UNrepairable and cost prohibitive to replace after its 3 year/36000 mile warranty.

Once upon a time one purchased a BMW motorcycle to do the job over the test of time and miles. Their historically quirky looks and even idiosyncrasies were simply side effect from pragmatic innovations and engineering. Now they're simply worn as a temporal fashion statement too be paraded on a fashion runway of tarmac. There is decidedly more 'profit' to be had by the throwaway brainwashing/ethos modern consumerism has built; But........????
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Interesting comments on the K1300's competition. To clarify and substantiate:
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/re...umph-sprint-gt
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/9/5598...omparison.aspx
http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs...out-88641.html

I can list more, but you get the idea. The K1300 has serious competition and most of it has an advantage in one area or another. I will stick with the BMW, but understand why many will not.
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Corporate herding of the masses. BMW is convincing consumers to pay the same or more for arguably less. They have given up engineering innovation for cheaply produced electronic glitz that is both UNrepairable and cost prohibitive to replace after its 3 year/36000 mile warranty.

Once upon a time one purchased a BMW motorcycle to do the job over the test of time and miles. Their historically quirky looks and even idiosyncrasies were simply side effect from pragmatic innovations and engineering. Now they're simply worn as a temporal fashion statement too be paraded on a fashion runway of tarmac. There is decidedly more 'profit' to be had by the throwaway brainwashing/ethos modern consumerism has built; But........????

I really don't see it that way. To me the K1300S is the pinnacle of engineering. If shift assist is just a fashion statement then you need to give it a try. I, for one, am glad that they didn't give up at the K1200S and not build the K13S because it's just a bunch of fluff. It's the finest performing bike I've had the pleasure to own. I'm trilled to own it.
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I really don't see it that way. To me the K1300S is the pinnacle of engineering. If shift assist is just a fashion statement then you need to give it a try. I, for one, am glad that they didn't give up at the K1200S and not build the K13S because it's just a bunch of fluff. It's the finest performing bike I've had the pleasure to own. I'm trilled to own it.

I think you miss read me. I'm referring to the the retiring of the K IL-slant 4 platform in favor of a chain drive, two sided swing arm liter bike platform that is simply cheaper to produce for the manufacturer.

I agree; the K1200/K1300 is a "pinnacle of engineering". I am 100% in favor of offering the full regalia of ride by wire, shift assisted, cruise controlled, traction controlled, DDS equipped K1300 along with its drive shaft and brilliant suspension.

BTW: Irv Seaver was my go to dealership/repair for 20 years. My best to Evin, Lois and Brian.
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I guess I did misread you. We are in total agreement.
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All the discussion of how great any product might be, and to which market segment most appreciates it, or any personal opinions of a product overlooks the fact that any corporation exists for only two purposes: Self perpetuation and making money for the stockholders. It has no social responsibiliy, it creates its own image, markets products that insure income, and seeks to eliminate competition.
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I'd say that BMW has done a great job of that in my eyes. I have no interest in owning anything else other than the one I own now. If there is a bike better made or engineered I have yet to see it. They have my money and loyalty so I guess their plan has worked in my case. I'm more than happy with it. I'm elated. To bad there wasn't something like this forty years ago when I was a bunch younger.
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I'd say that BMW has done a great job of that in my eyes. I have no interest in owning anything else other than the one I own now. If there is a bike better made or engineered I have yet to see it. They have my money and loyalty so I guess their plan has worked in my case. I'm more than happy with it. I'm elated. To bad there wasn't something like this forty years ago when I was a bunch younger.

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Well I'm at Cotswold BMW as I type this - car is in for service - and I've asked the Motorrad guys and they say there's no news. The best guess is that the inline four platform going forward will be the 1 litre from the S1000RR in the XR which will appear in the UK in June.
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All the discussion of how great any product might be, and to which market segment most appreciates it, or any personal opinions of a product overlooks the fact that any corporation exists for only two purposes: Self perpetuation and making money for the stockholders. It has no social responsibiliy, it creates its own image, markets products that insure income, and seeks to eliminate competition.

I agree this is the case most often. But there are rare exceptions. I worked at a wooden toy factory for a while. They were happy to break even and make high quality toys. They closed when the owner died. I worked at Apple in the early days and the common phrase was "Apple is out to change the world, Microsoft is out to own it".

I am not saying BMW falls into the "we make it because we love it, profits are secondary" category, just that some businesses do. Unfortunately, if they grow they always become as you described.
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All the discussion of how great any product might be, and to which market segment most appreciates it, or any personal opinions of a product overlooks the fact that any corporation exists for only two purposes: Self perpetuation and making money for the stockholders. It has no social responsibiliy, it creates its own image, markets products that insure income, and seeks to eliminate competition.

I trade stocks for a living now and you have described Apple to a T. I personally hate Apple.

BMW's car division satisfies their shareholders, being number one in luxury auto sales worldwide. I don't see the motorcycle division is a big factor in their income. They could close it out and have little effect on their income for the most part. I don't think eliminating the competition is a driving force either. What ever their motive is I'm glad they're making them. BMW Motorcycles have their own cult following and most people in this forum are part of it. I certainly am and it was driving the bikes that made me one of them. They won me over the way it should be. It's not the name, it's the quality and ride of the machine....at least for me. Social responsibility is something that Governments are designed to be for not manufactures. Even drug companies, which should be interested in social responsibility, seem to be more shareholder and profit oriented. When you sell a pill for $30 that cost $.10 to make and market, your in it for the money only. On the other hand are the BMW dealers greedy...yes they are but give Ferrari a try and you'll see what greed really is.
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Sorry to hear you hate Apple. Many of my neighbors work there and at the Tesla plant. None have hatred for their companies. Subtracting the fanboys opinions, the rest still think they are making expensive products but put extra effort into design so they are worth it.

BMW I see in that same light. They cost more because they do more design work. My K1200s is the first motorcycle with usable mirrors above 80 MPH. Even my Gold Wing did not have adequate mirrors at speed. A minor point for sure, but one of many.
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Bringing this back on topic, again. Has anyone migrated from a K1300S to a K1600GT and care to share their observations ?

Still want a bike for Sunday AM rides, but look forward to longer trips with being able to pack enough for a multi day trip.

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I did not make the switch, but had the 6 cylinder as a loaner for a day while my K1200s was in the shop. For sure the 6 is smoother and a better long distance bike. But it is also wider and heavier feeling IMO so worse for my normal use - lane splitting commutes.
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Bringing this back on topic, again. Has anyone migrated from a K1300S to a K1600GT and care to share their observations ?

Still want a bike for Sunday AM rides, but look forward to longer trips with being able to pack enough for a multi day trip.

+200 pounds. Kind of all I need to know about the K1600. I've taken 2-week, multi-1000-mile trips on the K1300S. No problem. And use it for Sunday morning.
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Ahhhh, but will I be able to buy a new K1300S in another year or two is the question ?

Struggling to get back in the saddle financially, had to sell my 2011 K1300S thanks to BO BO's world of continuing resolution, fiscal cliffs, and self castration....

Time goes by, needs change, may consider a 1000 XR, a R1200RT, even the 1600, Would like another shot @ a new bike, but may may have to settle on a "used 2015" K1300S ?
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. . . BO BO's world of continuing resolution, fiscal cliffs, and self castration....
And the Republicans in Congress had nothing to do with any of that. Let's not derail the thread with politics. You can regurgitate what you hear on Fox "News" on your own time.
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Question for those who know more about technology.

What if BMW developed a bike with a bored out version of the 1000cc engine to, say, a 1200cc bike. Then put the KS suspension on it and a drive shaft.

Is this a possibility (I mean technically, not commercially)?
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Question for those who know more about technology.

What if BMW developed a bike with a bored out version of the 1000cc engine to, say, a 1200cc bike. Then put the KS suspension on it and a drive shaft.

Is this a possibility (I mean technically, not commercially)?
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would be perfect and mechanically is not problem at all.

But I think is not possible because costs: Drive shaft Vs. Chain, KS suspension Vs. conventional. Huge differences, for example a final drive shaft systems has an estimated cost of $2000 Vs. chain with a $300 cost.

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And the Republicans in Congress had nothing to do with any of that. Let's not derail the thread with politics. You can regurgitate what you hear on Fox "News" on your own time.

It's Fox news' fault! Sheesh, political blinders on too tightly much? Poor leadership is what it is, even under blind denial. Otherwise you could have just let his minor comment go, but you are the one who turned the thread political with your censorship mentality.
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Re: New K1300S replacement is in development!

Leaders like Mitch McConnel?
Censorship mentality? That's funny. If people want to blame Obama for their personal failures, it's fine by me. I'm neither a Democrat nor a Republican. I am equally disappointed in both parties. (Rhetorical question- ever wonder why when people become successful they never say it was because of the sound leadership in DC?)
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Ok guys, let's leave the politics to Jo and get back on topic in this thread.
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