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Hi folks,

I have a new 2016 MS Edition with 2,657 miles on the clock. Over the last 1,100 miles it took down a quart of oil. Is this typical? It seems like 1qt /1100 miles is aggressive.

I do ride hard and well into the power band and while that may have some effect, I would be hard pressed to think that riding style alone would create such consumption.

Please share your experience with me.

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Re: Oil Consumption Question

Greg,
There are many a posts about oil consumption about the K1300S hear on this forum, try doing a search to read more about it.
From what I'm understanding some K1300S go through more oil than others for no apparent reason, just the luck of the draw. So far mine being brand new and now with just under 2000 miles has not burned or dropped one bit of oil. I can only hope I'm one of the lucky ones and this continues through the course of ownership.
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Greg,
There are many a posts about oil consumption about the K1300S hear on this forum, try doing a search to read more about it.
From what I'm understanding some K1300S go through more oil than others for no apparent reason, just the luck of the draw. So far mine being brand new and now with just under 2000 miles has not burned or dropped one bit of oil. I can only hope I'm one of the lucky ones and this continues through the course of ownership.

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Re: Oil Consumption Question

I have a 2015 K1300S MS and mine has burned oil unlike my 05 K1200S, the good news is on the last trip of 2K miles it only used 1/3 of a Qt. 17K on the clock.
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Re: Oil Consumption Question

On both of our 2011 K1300Ss the oil level would drop to the Min line by 2,500 to 2,700 miles.
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Re: Oil Consumption Question

These engines take a long time to break in. Like 7000-10,000 miles. Mine used oil until I did the valve check where I discovered the reed valves in the valve cover for the PAIR system where all gunked up and not sealing. So if you are still using oil after 7000 miles, I'd check them or have them checked. The only problem is the radiator has to come off, which means draining the cooling system and refilling under vacuum.
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Re: Oil Consumption Question

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Greg,
There are many a posts about oil consumption about the K1300S hear on this forum, try doing a search to read more about it.
From what I'm understanding some K1300S go through more oil than others for no apparent reason, just the luck of the draw. So far mine being brand new and now with just under 2000 miles has not burned or dropped one bit of oil. I can only hope I'm one of the lucky ones and this continues through the course of ownership.

My first K13 was the HP model and that bike did burn oil. My MS edition which now has about 3,300 miles on it doesn't seem to burn any - just like my old K12.
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These engines take a long time to break in. Like 7000-10,000 miles. Mine used oil until I did the valve check where I discovered the reed valves in the valve cover for the PAIR system where all gunked up and not sealing. So if you are still using oil after 7000 miles, I'd check them or have them checked. The only problem is the radiator has to come off, which means draining the cooling system and refilling under vacuum.

Mine quit burning oil after 3K miles, Son's took 8K to stop. We also had gunk on the reed valves which we cleaned at the valve clearance check. Read the cooling system thread, no vacuum needed if you don't have that system.
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You are free to take the risk of not using a vacuum purge kit. But I strongly recommend against it. They way the engine is configured you could have no sign of a trapped air bubble. That bubble will create a hot spot that over time will do damage. There are usually short cuts and different methods for accomplishing mechanical tasks on vehicles. But sometimes there are very specific reasons to only use a particular method. This is one of those cases.
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Re: Oil Consumption Question

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Hi folks,

I have a new 2016 MS Edition with 2,657 miles on the clock. Over the last 1,100 miles it took down a quart of oil. Is this typical? It seems like 1qt /1100 miles is aggressive.

I do ride hard and well into the power band and while that may have some effect, I would be hard pressed to think that riding style alone would create such consumption.

Please share your experience with me.

Many thanks,

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I have almost the exact same bike. New 2016, non MS, with roughly the same miles. I put in a little over half a quarter of oil recently. The service tech at the dealer told me to expect it. Tons of posts here discuss it. Supposedly nothing to worry about and more of a nuisance then anything. I'm of the opinion I babied it too much during break-in. If I could do it over again I would do a dyno-breakin
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Re: Oil Consumption Question

My 2013 K1300S used a quart every 800 miles. BMW replaced pistons/rings, valve seals and it still burned the same amount of oil. Bike ran perfectly - I may have kept it longer but when the starter sprag clutch failed I parted ways with it.

My 2014 doesn't use oil.
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Re: Oil Consumption Question

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DOA,

You are free to take the risk of not using a vacuum purge kit. But I strongly recommend against it. They way the engine is configured you could have no sign of a trapped air bubble. That bubble will create a hot spot that over time will do damage. There are usually short cuts and different methods for accomplishing mechanical tasks on vehicles. But sometimes there are very specific reasons to only use a particular method. This is one of those cases.

Which is exactly why I choose to not take chances. It matters not whether or not you use a vacuum, bleed the bike at the place the air will collect. Bleed it when its warming up or use the vacuum method, but be sure to bleed again after a ride. If you just use the vacuum method you can still have some air, but the water pump will push it around. This is physics, not voodoo.

As stated before, the vacuum method works well but was actually developed to save the dealer time and from dealing with exhaust gasses.
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Re: Oil Consumption Question

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I'm of the opinion I babied it too much during break-in. If I could do it over again I would do a dyno-breakin

Because of all the posts about the K1200/1300 using oil, I broke in both of our bikes harder than normal.
Didn't help.
It's just the luck of the draw if your K1300 will use oil.
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Because of all the posts about the K1200/1300 using oil, I broke in both of our bikes harder than normal.
Didn't help.
It's just the luck of the draw if your K1300 will use oil.

HOw often and how much oil did you need?
It seems more have the oil issue than do not.
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HOw often and how much oil did you need?
It seems more have the oil issue than do not.

The problem with this statistical sampling is that the people that don't have a problem don't post to say so. We typically hear about tire, suspension, lighting, wiring, tune problems. But few post here post to say their cycle is not having problems. We are exception posters.
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HOw often and how much oil did you need?
It seems more have the oil issue than do not.

The oil would drop to the Min line at 2,500 to 2,700 miles after a oil change.
It would take approx .6 quart to bring it up to the Max line.
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Just back from an 1,150 mile trip to Maine and the oil level did not change enough to warrant a top off. Go figure..? I'm still going to keep on eye on it.

At least 800 of those miles were at a steady 65+ mph in 5th and 6th gear.
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Re: Oil Consumption Question

Of course you know that you cannot trust the oil level reading unless the engine has reached normal working temperature before being killed, the bike is on the main stand, you've waited a couple of minutes and then squatted down level with that tube . . . .

Not a molecule used by mine in miles 6255 to 7255 . . . .
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Of course you know that you cannot trust the oil level reading unless the engine has reached normal working temperature before being killed, the bike is on the main stand, you've waited a couple of minutes and then squatted down level with that tube . . . .

Not a molecule used by mine in miles 6255 to 7255 . . . .

Yes, thank you. I'm familiar with how to read the oil level correctly and still shocked that it didn't use much oil on this trip as opposed to consuming a quart of oil+ over a smattering of local trips that composed the first 1,100 miles that I spoke of in the original note.

On this trip, I also noticed that it wont start on the first shot when its hot and has run for a couple of hours at highway speeds. It needs to cool down first. Very annoying.
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On this trip, I also noticed that it wont start on the first shot when its hot and has run for a couple of hours at highway speeds. It needs to cool down first. Very annoying.

Greg , it sounds like your bike has the ' hot start ' issue. Very annoying. It is a warranty fix and has to be checked out first by the dealer.
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Greg , it sounds like your bike has the ' hot start ' issue. Very annoying. It is a warranty fix and has to be checked out first by the dealer.


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