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Old 04-04-2009, 05:33 PM
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Question Small kids and reckless driver in neighborhood.

There is a high school student that visits a friend in our neighborhood.

He likes to hod rod through the neighborhood.

Which would be fine except for the many young children around.

Any suggestions on how to persuade him or his family to stop this crap?

Speed limit is 25 mph. Triple that is not uncommon.
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Re: Small kids and reckless driver in neighborhood.

Call the police and explain the situation. They will set up a sting in the neighborhood and hopefully catch him in the act. We had a similar situation in my town and they caught the guy in the act cited him for reckless driving among other things.
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Re: Small kids and reckless driver in neighborhood.

Contacted the police/sheriff. They offered to set up one of those radar speed displays (the ones on a small trailer). I think that will only encourage this kid.

Last time they sent someone up, he hung around for about 30 minutes and left.

The reckless driver only shows up occasionally so a sting would not be practical.

I asked the police to stop by the driver's home and register a complaint but not possible. They have to see the problem in person.

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Call the police and explain the situation. They will set up a sting in the neighborhood and hopefully catch him in the act. We had a similar situation in my town and they caught the guy in the act cited him for reckless driving among other things.
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Re: Small kids and reckless driver in neighborhood.

TRIPLE 25mph??? 75mph in a residential area???

That's a call to the cops. I wouldn't even think twice. I've got a 1 1/2 year old just starting to play outside and that's just crazy. I'd imagine enough people call AND call enough times, they'll have to do something.

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There is a high school student that visits a friend in our neighborhood.

He likes to hod rod through the neighborhood.

Which would be fine except for the many young children around.

Any suggestions on how to persuade him or his family to stop this crap?

Speed limit is 25 mph. Triple that is not uncommon.
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I believe if you got all the neighbors together and sent copies to the police chief, town manager or selctman enough pressure would force them to handle the situation properly.
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If it is one kid, talk to him. If he doesn't listen, go to his parents. If they don't listen, get the cops involved. Or you could disable his car when it is parked at his friends house.
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I hope police catch him soon in action, and he gets his just deserts.

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Yell at the kids and tell them to stay off the street! Even if you control this one hotrodder you wont get them all. It would be a good lesson for them to take their safety in their own hands. They may have the right to play near the road but they'll be "dead right".
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Re: Small kids and reckless driver in neighborhood.

Kid first, parents second for talks. Gathering a number of neighbors to meet with the parents can put pressure on the delinquent too - before getting the law involved. Immediate action seems necessary though for the safety of the children AND adults!

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Yell at the kids and tell them to stay off the street! Even if you control this one hotrodder you wont get them all. It would be a good lesson for them to take their safety in their own hands. They may have the right to play near the road but they'll be "dead right".

Good idea.

I find it funny that nobody is willing to confront the kid who is making the mistake. Do you think he would be happy killing somebody? What would you want to happen to your kid if he was making the same mistake?

When I was a kid, I would take my first car ('75 Gran Fury with 454 cu in) and light up the tires everywhere I went. Forwards and backwards, I would haul ass smokin the tires as much as possible. Until one day this man walked over to me and snatched me up by the short hairs (figuratively). He showed me the way.

But what I see here is that we as a generation do not have the balls to set kids straight. We would rather have the police take care of our dirty work. Fucking stand up, reach down and find the pair.

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Kid first, parents second for talks. Gathering a number of neighbors to meet with the parents can put pressure on the delinquent too - before getting the law involved. Immediate action seems necessary though for the safety of the children AND adults!

Been there, done that.

Once again I think you are hot.............errr.......I mean I think you have a wonderful way of dealing with things!

Talk to the kid. He may be short sighted. We have all made our mistakes. Thank god somebody helped us before they became too serious!
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Re: Small kids and reckless driver in neighborhood.

Joe, I look at the teens, having two in the house, and it is clear that they often don't consider the consequences of their behavior. It comes with the territory at that age and hopefully ends as they mature... (Some of us take a looooooooooooooooong time to mature... )

Would I want someone to call the cops on my child? No.. HELL no! Taking the time to deal with the situation may offer a child something other than a juvenile record at the courthouse.

How many of YOU reading this post engaged in reckless behavior as a kid? Was the law immediately called if you were caught, or were your neighbors, relatives, and parents set with the task of disciplining you?
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Re: Small kids and reckless driver in neighborhood.

talk to the kid, if that doesnt work have the cops bring the trailer out with the speed display, set up and video tape the kid yourself with the speed display in view, go to his parents and show it to them, bet that solves the problem , would slow my daughter down to walking speed for awhile

I agree with Pat here our kids today have it hard enough, behavior that used to get our butts beat ends them up in juvenile hall far too often
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Re: Small kids and reckless driver in neighborhood.

I guess my voice is from one of the guilty people. I learned many lessons growing up. As adults we should feel obliged to carry on those lessons. I know I do in my neighborhood. Although some of my neighbors think I am out of control, their kids know better than to act up on my street.
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talk to the kid, if that doesnt work have the cops bring the trailer out with the speed display, set up and video tape the kid yourself with the speed display in view, go to his parents and show it to them, bet that solves the problem , would slow my daughter down to walking speed for awhile

I agree with Pat here our kids today have it hard enough, behavior that used to get our butts beat ends them up in juvenile hall far too often
I like that idea. I believe the police would scare a teenager straight but that idea would Definetly do the trick.
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I like that idea. I believe the police would scare a teenager straight bit that idea would Definetly do the trick.

In my day the cops would bring me to my parents. Now they get the court system involved. Few children learn the appropriate lessons from the juvenile justice system.
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In my town I don't think formal charges would be brought against a kid. I guess being the age I am it wasn't to long ago I was getting my license and I just wish kids would be more responsible. There are more cars and motorcycles on the road and kids playing in the street is another hazard. 75 in a 25 is SERIOUS.
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I'd confront him as an adult and have a conversation with him. Try and give him a little respect (be his friend). As hard as this might be treating him like an adult, which is probably what he thinks his is, might be what works. Tell him about your concerns and that "cool" people go to the industrial district to go fast. Tell him about your bike, try and make a connection with him. then tell him that if he wants to race sometime then bring it on. I don't think threats are going to anywhere with him though since he obviously has no reguard for the law. Sneaking around won't get you anywhere he's a teenager remember. Reverse psychology on the little shit. Then if that doesn't work. Tape him and give it to his friends parents where he's going. My 2Cents. I doubt the cops will help. It wasn't long ago i did the same thing.
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I definitely did my fair share of reckless thinks as a kid. I guess I might just be too much of a hot head to deal with him. I'm not very good at the whole calm and reasoning thing, if I saw a kid speeding up my street like that I would'nt be able to keep my calm.
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I don't have kids so maybe that's why it's easy to say this and not what everyone else suggests: Asssssssss Whoopppinn. While no one else is around, of course.
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Take a strip of thin plywood severel feet long and a couple of inches wide. Implant many nails in it and attach a length of monofilament line. Put it on the opposite side of the street, hidden in weeds or by a fence, whatever. Next time he comes by pull it into his path. Best place to put it is at the exit of a turn if there is one nearby.

If you want to be civilized, just show it to him and let him know it is waiting if he doesn't change his ways.

Otherwise I would confront the lilttle shit with photos of him, his house and car. Maybe confront his parents and the family he visits. Explain to all that you are extremely protective of you family and friends and that if he can't restrain himself there will be consequences.

Alternatively a can of MEK (methyl ethyl ketone, a prime ingrediant in paint remover) poured over his car might help clear his mind. Sling shots with large ball bearings are good too. If you want to avoid real damage a handfull of heavy grease all over his windows would give him a time out to think about his evil ways.

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How many of YOU reading this post engaged in reckless behavior as a kid? Was the law immediately called if you were caught, or were your neighbors, relatives, and parents set with the task of disciplining you?

OK Pat, who in my family have you been talking to?

BMW, I agree that a first conversation, calm and collect, with the kid might help. I know that one of my neighbours back when I was a teen and enjoying the umph of my Golf GTI (VW Rabbit back then) did just that. It certainly made me more conscious (although admittedly only for a brief while - and I had to be reminder on a couple of more occassions).

As a final thought, you may want to videotape the kid doing his thing and if all else fails, use the evidence with the cops. They have to see it, well show it to them. But I would try the other approaches suggested first - no, not the ass whoopin and nail studded 2 x 4 (although the ass whoopin might be held in reserve ).
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Re: Small kids and reckless driver in neighborhood.

Thanks for all of the suggestions.

I have spoken with the neighborhood friend's mother and she has spoken to the offender's family.

Next step is to talk to the offender and his family directly.

After that I will try to keep a video camera handy to record the behavior. I may even paint lines across the street as reference points for determining speed.

I spoke with the police and they will come and review a video recording of the offender. It is then at their discretion as to whether they should do anything.

If these fail to produce results the final step is to send a letter to the boy's family indicating that if a child is hurt by flying gravel or struck and injured, by the vehicle, the neighborhood is united is pursuing full criminal prosecution and monetary damages. This could be taken further by sending a copy to his friend's family in the neighborhood and suggesting that they might be liable for "contributing to a hazard" by allowing the offender to visit.

Physically attacking the kid or his car would most likely land me in jail or in civil court.
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That sounds like a good plan. I know I would'nt be able to confront him without losing my cool and there is no way I would allow a little punk to land me in jail.
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How about installing speed bumps? I suppose he will by a dirt bike then!
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In my day the cops would bring me to my parents. Now they get the court system involved. Few children learn the appropriate lessons from the juvenile justice system.
Ditto, where are the parents? Used to be mom was at home and the car was a privelege. People today are often hesitant to look their kid in the eye and make em straighten up. Young drivers can be the safest out there but some begin driving with bad habits then digress from there.. I was a horrible demon on wheels but someone like justjoe did straighten me out when I was a teenager.. And I look back and thank the guy for scaring the responsibility back.. to some extent. Then I test rode an RS.

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I can send you a set of spike strips that should take care of the problem. All kidding aside you can advise the Police that you wish to be the affiant on the summons since you witnessed the violation. Now this is easy for certain violations, but speeding is tricky unless it's so excessive you can easily see by reviewing a video tape that the kid is speeding. Mark out a known distance on the street, then with the video camera tape him covering the known distance, then a little math gives you his speed. Can you get the DOT in your area to install speed bumps? Good luck
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Here is a forum where some experienced occifers may be able to provide suggestions. http://forums.officer.com/forums/sho....php?p=1713453
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Joe, I look at the teens, having two in the house, and it is clear that they often don't consider the consequences of their behavior. It comes with the territory at that age and hopefully ends as they mature... (Some of us take a looooooooooooooooong time to mature... )

Would I want someone to call the cops on my child? No.. HELL no! Taking the time to deal with the situation may offer a child something other than a juvenile record at the courthouse.

How many of YOU reading this post engaged in reckless behavior as a kid? Was the law immediately called if you were caught, or were your neighbors, relatives, and parents set with the task of disciplining you?

75 in a 25 with kids around is dangerous and reckless regardless of age. No excuses. If I found my kid doing that, he wouldn't drive until he had kids. If that took cops being involved so be it.
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First thought that came to mind was getting a hold of his insurance agent, bet they would want to know how their policyholder is operating the insured vehicle. Not sure how to accomplish that. Might bait the parents just by asking who pays his insurance. Sorry but police write reports....

Second thought is the neighbor he is visiting should take care of it or fobid the little MFer from coming to his home.

Had a kid down the street drag racing I mean lined up in the subdivision. Talked to his father never saw the kid drive again.

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A paper bag with a cinder block... no kid can help but run over a paper bag, they will slow down in the future.

Okay so that is not what most would say to do but if you want to go to the extreme...
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I don't know about Kyle's cinder block, ouch!

I have the same problem in my area. I'm lucky enough to be able to hear the cars behind my house first before they turn onto the main drag in front. I solved many a problem by standing out of view, and when the time is right, roll a soccer ball out in front of the car. Scares the shit out of the driver and if it gets hit won't hurt anything. The few drivers who stopped got a ear full from me about the possibility of a kid chasing after the ball. It really wakes them up. I'm only 28 but, with two kids, I have a very different point of view.

Keep in mind most of these types of drivers don't fully realize the danger of what they are doing. A wake up call can go a long way.
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Re: Small kids and reckless driver in neighborhood.

go to the local bowling alley and buy a beat up old rental ball (usually a 5 dollar venture)....roll it under the car as he passes....it should cause enough damage to cost a bit and may remind him in the future to slow down.


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Geez, you vigilantes scare the shit out of me..ever wonder what would happen if you tossed the ball out in the line of traffic and caused the driver to veer off the road and cause bodily harm to himself or others..regardless of his speeding or not, you would be the one serving time..and worst, cause the death of another human.

I don't condone their action, nor your ridiculous solutions!
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1. Paint fake potholes in front of your home ala Roadrunner.
2. When he stops, pull a Wylie E. Coyote manuever.
3. Offer some acme horsepower additive... he will not realize it was sugar for several minutes.
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Good luck proving that the ball was rolled on purpose . If someone was doing twice the speed limit in a residential neighborhood and a kid ran in front of his car, causing him to wreck, do you think the kid would feel guilty? To me it's no different then the DUI wreck law. If you are over the legal limit and I rear end you, guess who's going to jail?

Short of bashing 'vigilante' justice, offer a better solution not already mentioned? I'm open to suggestions.
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Short of bashing 'vigilante' justice, offer a better solution not already mentioned? I'm open to suggestions.

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I wasn't bashing, I was telling you what you may expect taking the law into your own hands..but no worries, they have the internet in prison. You could still chat with us from the inside
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Re: Small kids and reckless driver in neighborhood.

Using violence on an underage boy to stop overly aggressive speeds in a neighborhood seems foolhardy. As an adult, the legal consequences of causing physical abuse to a child could get ugly quite quickly. In addition, I must admit that if an adult took that approach to one of my children, .....the response would not be pretty.

Lar, you did not actually state how fast you believe the kid drives, but said that 3x the speed limit is not uncommon. Do you REALLY mean 75 mph?

Some creative suggestions in this thread. Loved the idea of the soccer ball thrown out - how about a fake body too? Pete Tallahassee has a blow up doll you might borrow.

Good luck with your mission Lar.

I cornered a kid in my neighborhood recently for speeding around the blind corners. (almost lost my daughter to a teen boy's reckless speed years ago) Kid zipped by me, I did a U turn, followed him up his driveway and gave him a few choice words. His rationalizations were met with a loud "BULLSHIT" (oops)... after which he was informed that his speed in our neighborhood WOULD be within legal limits. Haven't seen him speed since.
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I don't think anyone here is really suggesting kicking this kids ass, or placing some obstacle in his way which would cause him to loose control. Most of these light hearted suggestions are made out of fustration. I would video tape this kid crossing known distances for court purposes if necessary, but after that the first step is show it to his parents. If the parents are no help next step is the Police. Good luck, and no matter how high the frustration level keep calm and focused.
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Better health care then my company offers too.

On second thought, maybe a cinder block or bowling ball would have been a better choice.
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I don't condone their action, nor your ridiculous solutions!

Ridiculous? Ive used the bowling ball on 3 occasions....all damaging the car and no loss of control as the ball just bounces around....
Never had another one speed thru the neighborhood.

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Ridiculous? Ive used the bowling ball on 3 occasions....all damaging the car and no loss of control as the ball just bounces around....
Never had another one speed thru the neighborhood.

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How about installing speed bumps? I suppose he will by a dirt bike then!

The neighborhood has discussed that several times.

Several issues:

Police decrease their patrols of roads with speed bumps as they dislike having to slow down.

Entire neighborhood would have to be in agreement. That's not going to happen until someone gets killed or seriously injured. Besides some of the neighborhood adults do double the limit now.

Speeding may continue between the bumps.

Still, a good idea.
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It will be interesting to see his actions after your conversation with the neighbor. Keep us posted.
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I don't think anyone here is really suggesting kicking this kids ass, or placing some obstacle in his way which would cause him to loose control. Most of these light hearted suggestions are made out of fustration. I would video tape this kid crossing known distances for court purposes if necessary, but after that the first step is show it to his parents. If the parents are no help next step is the Police. Good luck, and no matter how high the frustration level keep calm and focused.

Didn't think of showing a video to the parents. Good idea!
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Lar, you did not actually state how fast you believe the kid drives, but said that 3x the speed limit is not uncommon. Do you REALLY mean 75 mph?

It's a fairly long and straight section of road with good pavement. Most are doing at least 35 when they crest the hill at one end of the road before they reach the straight section. BTW, it's a blind crest. And several families with kids live just beyond the crest. If ever there was an accident waiting to happen!
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Well, we were able to get the kid under control by speaking to the parents about the consequences of hitting a kid and neighbors testifying as to the chronic speeding behavior of their son.

And that there would be both criminal and civil charges.

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Now another neighbor got an adult to stop speeding by talking to his place of employment, a local hospital.

Speeding stopped immediately and the adult how takes another route to work.

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