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Old 06-04-2013, 12:41 PM
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Another K13S-specific, noobish question:

My Michelin PR3s will be in tomorrow and to save a few bucks, I want to remove and bring in both wheels.

I've got a center stand, so removing the rear is a piece of cake. However, a standard Pitbull universal front stand ain't gonna cut it (ask me how I know ). What stands work for the front fork on the K13S (Other than the pricy BMW one, that is?)

EDIT: For giggles, I called the nearest BMW dealer just to see if they happened to have the BMW stand in stock. I knew it wasn't gonna be anywhere in the realm of cheap, but I almost spit up my coffee when the parts guy told me the price: $324.95 -- WITHOUT the required adapter kit (another $58.50). Sometimes I wonder what parallel universe these people are living in.
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Re: SOP For Removing Both Wheels

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Another K13S-specific, noobish question:

My Michelin PR3s will be in tomorrow and to save a few bucks, I want to remove and bring in both wheels.

I've got a center stand, so removing the rear is a piece of cake. However, a standard Pitbull universal front stand ain't gonna cut it (ask me how I know ). What stands work for the front fork on the K13S (Other than the pricy BMW one, that is?)

EDIT: For giggles, I called the nearest BMW dealer just to see if they happened to have the BMW stand in stock. I knew it wasn't gonna be anywhere in the realm of cheap, but I almost spit up my coffee when the parts guy told me the price: $324.95 -- WITHOUT the required adapter kit (another $58.50). Sometimes I wonder what parallel universe these people are living in.
Narsisco:
I know this is not helping you for tomorrow but I make it real easy - I have both Pitbull stands - front and rear - makes it real easy and very secure.
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Old 06-04-2013, 01:34 PM
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Re: SOP For Removing Both Wheels

Put wood blocks under the exhaust header while on center stand and rear wheel still on. Just get the front 1/2" up or so will do the job. Not think about buying a tire machine. It pay for itself quickly, especially if you do your buddy's tires too.
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Re: SOP For Removing Both Wheels

I place a 1/2 to and 1" piece of wood under my CS and then use the front pitbull stand. This increases the height of the rear tire from the ground. Before I had the PB, I'd use motorcycle tie downs from the bars to the rafters.

It's always a good idea to secure the CS by using a strap from the CC forward to a secure place on the bike.
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Re: SOP For Removing Both Wheels

The Pit Bull front stand works great... merely remove the rear wheel before raising the front... then reverse this for re-installation... install the front wheel, lower the front, and then install the rear... I've been using this technique forever with no issues...
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The Pit Bull front stand works great... merely remove the rear wheel before raising the front... then reverse this for re-installation... install the front wheel, lower the front, and then install the rear... I've been using this technique forever with no issues...



I feel like a Homer for not remembering this little gem... especially as it was exactly the way I did in on my KTM 990 just last year. But, thanks for the reminder... sometimes a good swift, virtual kick in the ass is what I need to get my brain to engage!

I just took back the univ. PB stand and ordered up the BMW one... only a minor diff. on the contact points, but enough to make me feel a bit better.
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Re: SOP For Removing Both Wheels

Well on my 04 GT and r75/6 I always pull the front wheel first. Weight down or strap down the back while on the center stand pull the front wheel then let the front way down forward to provide a lot of extra room for the rear wheel. Just use a milk crate with a wood block to hold the front forks. A strap on the center stand and usually one or two straps to something solid to make sure it all stays in place.

Just like me to do it all backwards

On the r75/6 I just let it go forward enough that the forks hit the ground, well a piece of 1" x 6" scrap wood anyway. Don't have any clearance issues with my bag racks that way.
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Re: SOP For Removing Both Wheels

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Put wood blocks under the exhaust header while on center stand and rear wheel still on. Just get the front 1/2" up or so will do the job.
I use this technique... but only to remove the wheel, which takes me less than a minute (calipers and fender removed, left pinch bolt/axle loosened, etc) after lifting the front from the headers. After that, I reinsert the axle and put a jack stand under the middle of the axle, and immediately lower the jack. Super stable and quick. Many folks have left the bike days with the weight over the headers, but I prefer not to push my luck .
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left pinch bolt/axle loosened, etc)

Sitting on the bike, that would be the right pinch bolt you need to loosen.
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Sitting on the bike, that would be the right pinch bolt you need to loosen.

That's really doing it the hard way...

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That's really doing it the hard way...

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Re: SOP For Removing Both Wheels

Another way to do it with the center stand, and if you can use a solid fixing point above the bike like on the ceiling of your garage is to use ratchet straps and hold the bike by the handle bridge.
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Another way to do it with the center stand, and if you can use a solid fixing point above the bike like on the ceiling of your garage is to use ratchet straps and hold the bike by the handle bridge.

Yeah... thought of that, too. But, the ceiling of my garage is drywall-finished, so I'd have to get up into the attic to create a nice, solid mount. No biggie, but just an added step. I just might do it though, since it's cheaper than the OEM BMW stand!
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Sitting on the bike, that would be the right pinch bolt you need to loosen.
Indeed .

And to contribute something more than a mere word , here are the torque values folks: Rear wheel bolts: 44 ft/lbs. Front axle: 37 ft/lbs. Caliper bolts: 22 ft/lbs. And pinch bolt(s): 14 ft/lbs. Hope this helps somebody.
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I use this technique... but only to remove the wheel, which takes me less than a minute (calipers and fender removed, left pinch bolt/axle loosened, etc) after lifting the front from the headers. After that, I reinsert the axle and put a jack stand under the middle of the axle, and immediately lower the jack. Super stable and quick. Many folks have left the bike days with the weight over the headers, but I prefer not to push my luck .

Exactly my technique.
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