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Old 06-23-2014, 08:30 AM
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upgrade just one tire?

I have the basic pilot power tire on both the front and rear. The front has 1500 miles on it but the rear needs to be placed. Will there be any handling problems if I put a pilot power 3, which is a dual compound tire, on the rear?
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Re: upgrade just one tire?

Not sure. I ruined a rear tire several years ago and replaced it with a different brand that I had used. Mixed Avons with Metzlers. It was on my 98 RS. Rode it that way for maybe 500 miles and replaced it with a matching tire. I'm a cheap bastard so to replace one without wearing it out says how weird it acted.
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Re: upgrade just one tire?

My opinion is that it'll work just fine... I've done this before with Michelin tires with zero problems.. Running 2 different brands is another issue... My 2 doubloons.

I'm also guessing that if you ask 20 people this same question you get 20 different answers...
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Re: upgrade just one tire?

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I have the basic pilot power tire on both the front and rear. The front has 1500 miles on it but the rear needs to be placed. Will there be any handling problems if I put a pilot power 3, which is a dual compound tire, on the rear?

Michelin(F)-Michelin(R) is fine. Just be aware they will probably wear at different rates. I've just done 20,000 kms on a Pilot Power front and a Pilot Road rear. The rear Road could have done another thousand, I reckon. But the Power front should have been replaced about 5,000 kms ago, or sooner. It ended up rubbish - the whole right hand side was like it was sliced off.

Personally wouldn't mix brands.
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Re: upgrade just one tire?

I rarely replace both at the same time. Like Pirate said I stick with the same brand, Michelin. I just put a new front (PR4) on saturday and have significant life left in the rear (PR3)
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Thanks all. I will stay within the Power model and replace the rear with a Power 3.
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Re: upgrade just one tire?

BTW.. I have a mini-review of the PP3's in our July/Aug 2013 newsletter... http://www.pirateslair.net/newsletterJuly13.htm

I'm actually getting great mileage out of them... Love these tires..

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I'm actually getting great mileage out of them... Love these tires..

Well rumor has it that is because you just putt down to the local ice cream shop and have since given up on the ego thing and now let the mopeds and Harleys go around you.

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BTW.. I have a mini-review of the PP3's in our July/Aug 2013 newsletter... http://www.pirateslair.net/newsletterJuly13.htm

I'm actually getting great mileage out of them... Love these tires..

I got less from the 3s than I did from the 2s. Of course I went way too long before replacing the PR2. The guy at the shop commented that I had gotten my money out of that one.
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Re: upgrade just one tire?

I know many people do change one tire at a time. They are the cheap crowd as mentioned. I agree as long as they are closely related there is probably no problem. But, you will never know the joy of having two fresh tires on the bike. Also you one at a time'ers run one of those tires to the bitter end, often well past the safe zone for that tire.
I change tires for many folks. Often the GS crowd has a special combination that they like. But for Road tires I feel strongly the manufacture has a matched set in mind for good performance.
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Re: upgrade just one tire?

I've mixed and matched tires for decades; NO PROBLEMS!

Tire retailers will vehemently fear monger and discourage this practice, and perhaps guys like Valentino Rossi and Casey Stoner can pin-point negative nuances in handling, turn in, etc with non matching tires; but for the average Joe Blow sunshine superman it is all moot.
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Point taken.... will be careful if I go to Reno.
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Re: upgrade just one tire?

my K1300s had PR2's front/rear and then I got a box cutter blade in the rear tire which ruined it. ended up getting a tow to a yamaha/honda dealership and the only tire they had in stock that would fit was a perelli. so off i went with the perelli in the rear and PR2 up front. didn't seem to have any effect whatsoever in regards to handling.
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Re: upgrade just one tire?

I have to agree with Beech on this... I always replace both tires and use matched sets. The underlying issue here is this... if you're wearing out tires at drastically different rates, you probably need to examine your riding style and correct deficiencies and bad habits...
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There is always the magic of a new matched set tires matched for the intended use of a bike.. I would think, IMHO in other words, is that similar products within a brand would have similar profiles. I know from trying different brands/profiles over time that how the bike responds to a set of tires changes with the brands. Yes I think it would most likely work OK. However I don't think you would experience the brilliance that a matched set might create for your bike.

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Re: upgrade just one tire?

Well I agree with the objective of changing out tires together....but that does not seem to be necessary nor practical most of the time. When I bought this bike last year it had a Metzler Z6 road tire on the front and the Power on the rear. Can't really say I noticed anything funny in the handling - always seemed to turn in effortlessly and was completley predictable through the turn. And although the German and French seemed to be getting along (no Maginot Line), I decided to go for a matched set of sport tires. So I now am in the position of having a virtually new tire on the front and a older one on the rear. I am now down to the wear indicators in the center of the rear tire so need to get that changed soon.
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Hi Bobby

I always use Michelin Pilot power on front and Road 2 on rear, never had problems. I like this combination because is suitable to ride on roads, and make feel confident with a soft tyre on the front, I Prefer the sliding on rear...
Also in this way usually I change 2 rears / 1 front
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Hey, you mention the Maginot line and the value of a tire debate thread increases exponentially!
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I always use Michelin Pilot power on front and Road 2 on rear, never had problems. I like this combination because is suitable to ride on roads, and make feel confident with a soft tyre on the front, I Prefer the sliding on rear...
Also in this way usually I change 2 rears / 1 front


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Re: upgrade just one tire?

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My opinion is that it'll work just fine... I've done this before with Michelin tires with zero problems.. Running 2 different brands is another issue... My 2 doubloons.

I'm also guessing that if you ask 20 people this same question you get 20 different answers...

I'm with Jerry on this one - no big deal with a single manufacturer's product, mixing brands might be a mixed bag of results...

I've run the PR3 rear/PP front combination several times without incident or anomalies. I don't really like the premature wear characteristics that I've experienced with the PR3 front. My 2 cents.
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Re: upgrade just one tire?

I usually change them out as a pair but circumstances sometimes preclude that, currently running a Pirelli Angel ST on the front with a Pirelli Angel GT A spec rear, no handling issues, have in the past been forced to mix brands with no discernible problems.
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