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Old 08-12-2014, 11:24 PM
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Exclamation Metzeler M3 Wear

I was just changing my oil today and noticed my M3s are shot after 5300 miles. Being as I don't try to spin tires, wheelie or go much over 70mph I was shocked to see the metal belt showing on part of the tire center. I do hit the corners here in the mountains pretty hard but this was the center of the tire !! Until I saw this I was set on buying another pair of Metzelers.
How about the Michelin PR3s? Any good feedback??
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Old 08-12-2014, 11:35 PM
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Re: Metzeler M3 Wear

5,000 miles out of a sport tire on that heavy bike would suit me just fine. It's fine if you want more miles, but you're right, you'll need to switch. The PR3's might still be available, but their replacement is out, the PR4, and there are a couple threads on them already, if you do a search. Also pretty hot, are the Pirelli Angels...threads on them as well.
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Re: Metzeler M3 Wear

I thought the Metzler M3's were pretty average, which is going make the bike even better when you switch tyres, as Jargon said the PR4's are popular, I run the Pirelli Angel GT's and very happy with them, even the old Angel ST's went well. Plenty of info on both here.

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Re: Metzeler M3 Wear

You got a lot of miles out of a 3000 mile tire. Try M5's or if your puttzing like you say, try Metzler Z8's, a good touring /sport tire. Personally I see issues all the time from people with P4's and P3"s. I change a lot of tires each summer and see mostly middle of the road stuff like we are talking about. M3's are a sport tire and out of your network.
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Re: Metzeler M3 Wear

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You got a lot of miles out of a 3000 mile tire. Try M5's or if your puttzing like you say, try Metzler Z8's, a good touring /sport tire. Personally I see issues all the time from people with P4's and P3"s. I change a lot of tires each summer and see mostly middle of the road stuff like we are talking about. M3's are a sport tire and out of your network.

I agree. I'm amazed you got over 5,000 miles from an M3. I got 3,000 from the OEM M3 but now get up to 4,500 from an M5. But these are both sports tyres designed with high grip levels and to turn in quickly i.e. with a sharper profile from a sport touring tyre like the Z8.

A Z8 or equivalent sport touring tyre like the Michelin Pilot Road series will give you significantly more mileage.
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Re: Metzeler M3 Wear

Thank you all for commenting. I really didn't know that the M3s were a real performance tire. I was impressed with the handling and now I know why. Guess I'll trade off a little performance for some more longevity with the Michelins. My 67 yr old knees don't like touching the pavement anyway.
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Re: Metzeler M3 Wear

Give those M5's a try, good for 5k miles. And the Z8's handle well and are good for 7500 miles and no way will you ever miss any traction with either.
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Re: Metzeler M3 Wear

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I'm a little over 3000 on my oem M3's right now and I am itching to swap them out from some Angel GTs. My brother put them on his FJR after running the PR3s and loves the turn-in and grip they provide. Some have reported better turn-in with the GTs than with the M3s. I will try to get 4000 out of the M3s and then make the swap.
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Re: Metzeler M3 Wear

Most K S came with M3's and while they are just ok, my opinion, mine were toast and loosing grip at 3k. Fitted PR4's and couldn't be more pleased. Last 4 bikes I have went with PR's-3 and the 4 and have not been disappointed. Now at 8k on the big girl and tires look and feel great.
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Re: Metzeler M3 Wear

Put on my new RP4s last week and just had to try them out....so I took off on a little 1300mi Round Robin of Colorado. Aside from the occasional thunderstorm, sleet and snow it was a great ride. I don't think I have ever been as impressed as I was with the PR4s. They were unbelievable in the twisties and great on the wet stuff. They really made the M3s I had seem like crap. The worse thing I can say about the PR4s is that they gave me too much confidence and I'm normally no knee dagger. I was so impressed that I'm going to put them on all of my bikes.....well maybe not the KTM, Harley or 75/7. It was also the first time I had used the luggage. I always thought they looked a little small but they were perfect. With the bags loaded it actually felt as though the bike handled better..I think the aft weight made the bike feel better balanced during cornering. Any comments from those of you that use the luggage ?
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Re: Metzeler M3 Wear

I had an experienced mechanic look at my M3 back tire a couple of days ago, since I had ordered some Pirelli Angel GT's and had them delivered to him. He said I only had a few hundred miles left on the rear as the wear bars were almost level with the tread. I was a bit surprised (hadn't even noticed the wear bars hiding in the sipes) as I only had 2400 miles on the bike. But I can't resist a lot of heavy acceleration, and I doubt I've ridden the bike yet without hitting at least 100mph except when running to the corner restaurant or bank. High speeds like 150mph do tend to eat tires rapidly. Shame, because I've still got chicken strips on the sides from lack of rides to good corners.

I hope for 5000 miles on a rear, and as much as twice that on the front, but suspect I won't achieve that on this bike, unless I go touring.
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Re: Metzeler M3 Wear

I have to retract my general criticism of PR4's. People I have installed them for have, like above, given good reports on them. The front does seem to cup. I live in a wet area and they might be just the ticket.
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Re: Metzeler M3 Wear

I went ahead with new Angel GT's myself - I had PR3's on my F800ST and they were good but I found them sometimes vague in corners - different bike, different application.

My Z8's on K1300S were quite good and confident in corners - and I got 14 000 kms out of them, with the front tire actually going first with wear marks appearing. I was also going the route of the PR4's but a few K1300S owners have reported some "slippage" issues compared to the PR3's - while I've heard only great things about the Angel GT's, so I thought I'd try something new.
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