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Old 03-15-2017, 07:25 AM
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K1200s shifter mod (K1300 style)

Changed my 1200s shifter setup to the improved 1300 style
Free access to the oil filter now.

Thanks Kiwimat for letting me go through your junk collection
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Old 03-15-2017, 07:56 AM
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Re: K1200s shifter mod (K1300 style)

That mod will allow you too use a Ryco Z418 oil filter....allegedly.
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Re: K1200s shifter mod (K1300 style)

So that's a straight retrofit? No tricks to it?
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Re: K1200s shifter mod (K1300 style)

It is if you get the 1300 footpeg, the 1300 shift rod (without the quickshift unit), the 1300 shift pedal and the gearbox arm.

And you need to cut the arm off where the original 1200 shift pedal is bolted to (thats the culprit stopping you from unscrewing the oil filter)

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My install was a bit tricky, because i have Power Commander QS Sensor and I was missing the lower ball fitting.
If you don't have a Quickshifter, its plug and play.
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Now to find the setup.
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Re: K1200s shifter mod (K1300 style)

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Changed my 1200s shifter setup to the improved 1300 style
Free access to the oil filter now.

Thanks Kiwimat for letting me go through your junk collection



Nice write-up and pictures!
Time for me to go on flea-bay getting the parts for my K12R...
I really hate the original setup,a real mission changing the oil filter!
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Re: K1200s shifter mod (K1300 style)

There you go...

$200 including shipping

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pedana-an...0AAOSwLEtYkGm0
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Re: K1200s shifter mod (K1300 style)

And to top it off, get yourself one of these.....

It really takes the snatchy, unwanted accelerations out when riding a rough road. Not to mention relaxing your wrist when doing longhauls.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Kaoko-Cru...cAAOSw4CFYu29a

At $100 dollars incl. shipping thats a bargain.... ($170 normally)
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Re: K1200s shifter mod (K1300 style)

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There you go...

$200 including shipping

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pedana-an...0AAOSwLEtYkGm0

Thank you for the fleabay link!
This assembly will make oil change a breeze!
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Re: K1200s shifter mod (K1300 style)

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And to top it off, get yourself one of these.....

It really takes the snatchy, unwanted accelerations out when riding a rough road. Not to mention relaxing your wrist when doing longhauls.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Kaoko-Cru...cAAOSw4CFYu29a

At $100 dollars incl. shipping thats a bargain.... ($170 normally)
Thanks for the link!...but if i buy the pedal assembly and this one too,my wife will evict me for sure hehehe.
I have one of those "wrap around the grip" cruise controls on the bike has a tab that goes right under my palm.Makes riding possible with my fingers straight if needed.
Plus i fitted foam wrapping on the grips to eliminate vibrations.
This combination works really well.
The high density foam is sold here by the meter,
I can make 7 sleeves from one length(1 Mtr)
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Re: K1200s shifter mod (K1300 style)

Oh Oh.... This new shifter setup is absolutely worth every $ I spent.
($50, thanks kiwimat)

I should have done this a long time ago. Gear changes are ridiculously smooth now. No more banging in gears.

I did do the bearing install in my original 1200 shift pedal, but this is 10x better.

(just letting everyone know.....haha)

PS: My PC3 Quickshifter is now useless. The new setup changed the sensor from pull to push (I didn't realize that until today)
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Re: K1200s shifter mod (K1300 style)

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Oh Oh.... This new shifter setup is absolutely worth every $ I spent.
($50, thanks kiwimat)I should have done this a long time ago. Gear changes are ridiculously smooth now. No more banging in gears.I did do the bearing install in my original 1200 shift pedal, but this is 10x better.(just letting everyone know.....haha)

PS: My PC3 Quickshifter is now useless. The new setup changed the sensor from pull to push (I didn't realize that until today)

How is this better than the 1200 bearing install? Also, can you get a different PC3 Quickshifter?
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Re: K1200s shifter mod (K1300 style)

The shifting arm/angle ratio has changed.

Installing the bearings took away the sloppyness, but it still had a fairly long travel to get it into gear.

Now my foot barely moves when changing gears.
Even without the quickshift sensor working (already ordered a push sensor),
the shifting is an absolute breeze.

I can preload as hard as I wan't and i can't get into the next gear (I tried it a few times, my foot actually hurts, thats how hard i was pulling)

Roll off the throttle for a split second and it flips into the next gear no problem.

The new sensor will work like a charm with this setup.
My old setup had a few misshaps here and there......The sensor wouldn't react because the leverage was so great that it would hammer it into the next gear before the ignition was cut.
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Re: K1200s shifter mod (K1300 style)

Are you certain that footpeg on eBay is from a k 1300 S and not a 1200? Would it be unethical of me to buy it or does Boxerboy have first dibs?
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Re: K1200s shifter mod (K1300 style)

That is from a 1300....

Not sure who gets first pick, but its a free for all world out there.
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Re: K1200s shifter mod (K1300 style)

Okay great. And that part is everything I need to convert over to a 1300?
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Re: K1200s shifter mod (K1300 style)

yep... the footpeg, the shift pedal, the gearbox lever and rod.
Plug and play.

Just remember, if you decide to get a Quickshifter it needs to be a push sensor now. And you will then need a shorter M6 rod (PK power is the company who supplied my sensor and rod)
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Re: K1200s shifter mod (K1300 style)

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yep... the footpeg, the shift pedal, the gearbox lever and rod.
Plug and play.

Well, someone got it! I inquired re: a partial setup locally (foot peg and mounting bracket), but it doesn't have the gear change lever or the rod, the important bits. They've been sold separately already. Bugger. No rush, I'll keep my eyes open.
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Re: K1200s shifter mod (K1300 style)

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Well, someone got it! I inquired re: a partial setup locally (foot peg and mounting bracket), but it doesn't have the gear change lever or the rod, the important bits. They've been sold separately already. Bugger. No rush, I'll keep my eyes open.

Gumtree, $100.
Search K1300
Sort by price.
Offer him 50, finish at 80.

Is that some of what you want? Or is this the ad you already checked out?



Heres a rod and quickshift, call Frank and make him an offer, see what else he has.
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Re: K1200s shifter mod (K1300 style)

Thanks.
I've enquired re the stuff from SA.
Frank seems to want a squillion when I asked him last week. But that looks like different stuff to what he was describing. I don't want quickshift stuff, so can it be separated easily enough?
I had made an offer for the ebay europe one, but someone went BIN I expect. You snooze, you lose. That's ok, there'll be more along soon enough.
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Re: K1200s shifter mod (K1300 style)

Completed on 06 KS spending $210us, using both used and new BMW stock items...great upgrade and may extend the badly designed gearbox.
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Re: K1200s shifter mod (K1300 style)

Got my push sensor today for the 1300 style setup......

oh my.....

The quickshift is incredible. The gear change is absolutely precise.
I would almost say that the upshift is smoother then on a 1300.
(1300 has a spring inside of the quickshift sensor)

Worth every penny i spent......

Problem is that i don't have enough road to enjoy its full potential.
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How about taking a video and sharing it?
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I will..... In the near future.

I lost my GoPro Camera mount.
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@Patrique83...still happy?

I added mine tonight. Yet to be road tested. I'll get to that tomorrow.

Mine is just the mechanical linkage setup, no QS.

I replaced the broken rod with a piece of 130mm length 6mm aluminium rod and sorted the threads. When the ball ends are added it measures 160mm eye to eye.

The mechanism feels firm and crisp when changing gears by hand. It does make a noise when it changes. Dunno what that is? When I do the gear change, the bike is on the centrestand and I'm changing it by hand. Everything is tight.

https://i.imgur.com/O4PpvBl.jpg?2
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Re: K1200s shifter mod (K1300 style)

I absolutely love it..... even when i did the bushing/bearing mod on the original shift lever it wasn't as good as with the 1300 setup.

The QS is from the power commander. But i am thinking of getting myself a k1300 engine harness and install the k1300 QS. Just to see if its possible.

But that will be something to try next season......
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I did a leisurely 100kms today thru the hills around NE of Melbourne. Warrandyte to Kinglake, then Toolangi, Chum Creek and Yarra Glen. Lots of hills, straights and corners and I can say that the improvement is fantastic.

N to 1st still has a clunk but 1->2 snicks beautifully unless the rpm is too high.
Everywhere else snicks very well and feels seamless at the higher gears. I heard another rider on a green Kawasaki sports bike shift from 1st to 2nd from 100m away and it went CLUNK! but he was at a roundabout and low rpm.

Next mod will be to fit the 1300 driveshaft. That reportedly also makes a difference to the ride.

Did you locktite any of the fasteners? I just tightened them without a torque wrench.
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I did a short errands ride today, no boots, just runners. The gears change much easier with boots!
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