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It's on, the first practice session is in the books, the new boss may not be the same as the old boss..........

https://www.superbikeplanet.com/2017...ee-practice-1/



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MotoGP Qatar Grand Prix Free Practice 1
Thursday, March 23, 2017
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1 Maverick Vinales Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 1:54.316
2 Marc Marquez Repsol Honda Team Honda 1:54.912
3 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team Honda 1:55.210
4 Jonas Folger Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 1:55.587
5 Jorge Lorenzo Ducati Team Ducati 1:55.607
6 Loris Baz Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 1:55.624
7 Cal Crutchlow LCR Honda Honda 1:55.639
8 Johann Zarco Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 1:55.792
9 Valentino Rossi Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 1:55.799
10 Aleix Espargaro Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 1:55.872
11 Andrea Dovizioso Ducati Team Ducati 1:55.873
12 Scott Redding OCTO Pramac Racing Ducati 1:56.000
13 Andrea Iannone Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 1:56.027
14 Alvaro Bautista Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati 1:56.128
15 Karel Abraham Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati 1:56.399
16 Danilo Petrucci OCTO Pramac Racing Ducati 1:56.419
17 Jack Miller EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 1:56.453
18 Alex Rins Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 1:56.502
19 Tito Rabat EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 1:56.725
20 Hector Barbera Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 1:56.725
21 Pol Espargaro Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 1:57.630
22 Sam Lowes Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 1:57.887
23 Bradley Smith Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 1:58.114
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So dominant. But look at the other satellite yamaha riders.
Rossi is fourth fastest yamaha.
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FP 2 - and a shake up in the order, Vinales had his first crash, times slower than FP 1, after rain soaked the track, although the practice was dry, notes below times as listed,


1. Scott Redding GBR Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 55.085s [Lap 15/16] 343km/h (Top Speed)
2. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 55.185s +0.100s [15/17] 348km/h
3. Jonas Folger GER Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 55.208s +0.123s [14/15] 341km/h
4. Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 55.316s +0.231s [15/18] 345km/h
5. Maverick Viñales ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 55.378s +0.293s [4/16] 343km/h
6. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 55.414s +0.329s [15/18] 342km/h
7. Alvaro Bautista ESP Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 55.581s +0.496s [14/18] 350km/h
8. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 55.604s +0.519s [16/17] 348km/h
9. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 55.698s +0.613s [5/18] 342km/h
10. Aleix Espargaro ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 55.750s +0.665s [12/12] 340km/h
11. Danilo Petrucci ITA Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 55.760s +0.675s [12/17] 344km/h
12. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 55.828s +0.743s [16/17] 341km/h
13. Jack Miller AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 55.959s +0.874s [15/17] 342km/h
14. Karel Abraham CZE Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 56.003s +0.918s [17/18] 346km/h
15. Andrea Iannone ITA Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 56.069s +0.984s [15/16] 337km/h
16. Alex Rins ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)* 1m 56.179s +1.094s [15/18] 342km/h
17. Tito Rabat ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 56.368s +1.283s [15/17] 343km/h
18. Loris Baz FRA Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 56.501s +1.416s [15/15] 339km/h
19. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 56.530s +1.445s [15/17] 343km/h
20. Hector Barbera ESP Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 56.934s +1.849s [18/18] 346km/h
21. Pol Espargaro ESP Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16) 1m 57.116s +2.031s [16/16] 343km/h
22. Sam Lowes GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)* 1m 57.517s +2.432s [14/15] 336km/h
23. Bradley Smith GBR Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16) 1m 58.020s +2.935s [12/17] 339km/h

From having no answer to a succession of preseason woes, Scott Redding's recent turnaround has been quite remarkable, with the Englishman topping the second MotoGP free practice session at Losail.

Building on a solid final winter test, Redding has been strong throughout the first weekend of the year, and fitted soft front and rear tyres to end FP2 0.1s up on fellow Ducati rider Andrea Dovizioso.

After opting against the fitting of soft compounds on Thursday, the Italian produced a quick late run that was good enough to place second on the time sheets, and crucially, get inside the top overall free practice top ten.

Thankfully, the 3.3-mile circuit had dried out by the time the session got underway after a colossal morning shower had soaked the track. Maverick Viñales soon showed grip wasn't a massive issue by lapping in the low 1m 55s early on.

However, the sensation of winter testing soon found himself in trouble. Lapping just ahead of team-mate Valentino Rossi, Viñales entered turn four marginally off line. The precarious nature when going off line was evident as the M1 front tucked, leaving Viñales sliding on his back, contemplating a first fall of 2017.

As such, he fell down the order in FP2, ending the 45 minutes in fifth, behind both Tech 3 Yamahas. It is quickly becoming commonplace to see Jonas Folger's name at the front, and again, the German was in the mix, ending a fantastic third.

He was backed up by fellow rookie Johann Zarco, who was just 0.062s slower. Their stunning performances once again had Rossi (sixth) in the unfortunate position as the slowest Yamaha, after fitting soft tyres to improve his own precarious situation.

Alvaro Bautista was a solid seventh, ahead of Jorge Lorenzo, whose body language conveyed a man with frustration levels rising by the minute. The Majorcan was more than half a second off the quickest time and skulked out of the garage as soon as he returned.

Like Viñales, Marquez didn't fit soft rubber – believed to be worth at least half a second – and as a result finished the session ninth. Not to worry. He remains second on the combined free practice time sheets, behind Viñales, thanks to his time in FP1.

Aleix Espargaro rounded out the top ten, with Danilo Petrucci, Cal Crutchlow and Jack Miller closely following.

Other than Viñales and Marquez, Dani Pedrosa (19th) was the only other top ten rider that didn't improve his quickest time. Pedrosa remains fifth on the combined time sheets.

Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/243...RvXX2VgT0ww.99
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BUT ... tbh ... don't know if he (Scott) could've reached this time without Jonas in front of him
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What a shake up. Two rookies and Vinales leading all the former "aliens."
Makes you wonder if Spies was still in the mix where he'd be.
Lorenzo is in for a LOOOONG season.
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FP 3 in the books, Vinales back on top, Rossi, 13th but Rossi managed to stay in top 10 based upon combined times so he stays in the Qualifying 2, without having to work through qualifing 1. Comments below time tables.

FP3:
1. Maverick Viñales ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 54.834s [Lap 17/17] 340km/h (Top Speed)
2. Andrea Iannone ITA Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 54.848s +0.014s [16/17] 338km/h
3. Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 55.008s +0.174s [15/17] 341km/h
4. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 55.042s +0.208s [13/15] 348km/h
5. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 55.113s +0.279s [15/16] 344km/h
6. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 55.211s +0.377s [15/16] 340km/h
7. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 55.296s +0.462s [14/15] 343km/h
8. Danilo Petrucci ITA Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 55.435s +0.601s [15/16] 345km/h
9. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 55.461s +0.627s [14/15] 349km/h
10. Aleix Espargaro ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 55.634s +0.800s [16/16] 345km/h
11. Alvaro Bautista ESP Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 55.676s +0.842s [17/17] 347km/h
12. Jonas Folger GER Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 55.713s +0.879s [13/14] 338km/h
13. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 55.790s +0.956s [15/15] 343km/h
14. Karel Abraham CZE Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 56.095s +1.261s [14/16] 346km/h
15. Alex Rins ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)* 1m 56.249s +1.415s [16/17] 341km/h
16. Tito Rabat ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 56.617s +1.783s [14/15] 340km/h
17. Scott Redding GBR Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 56.662s +1.828s [9/14] 343km/h
18. Jack Miller AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 56.692s +1.858s [14/17] 342km/h
19. Sam Lowes GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)* 1m 56.854s +2.020s [11/13] 336km/h
20. Loris Baz FRA Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 56.935s +2.101s [4/15] 338km/h
21. Hector Barbera ESP Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 57.005s +2.171s [12/12] 346km/h
22. Pol Espargaro ESP Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16) 1m 57.630s +2.796s [15/17] 340km/h
23. Bradley Smith GBR Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16) 1m 57.654s +2.820s [10/18] 337km/h

Riders going directly to Qualifying 2 - Top 10 Combined Practice Times:
1. Maverick Vinales ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)
2. Andrea Iannone ITA Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)
3. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)
4. Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*
5. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)
6. Scott Redding GBR Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP16)
7. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)
8. Jonas Folger GER Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*
9. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V)
10. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)

Maverick Vinales leads FP3 at the Qatar MotoGP and stays on top of the combined practice timesheets courtesy of his FP1 lap.

Meanwhile the likes Jorge Lorenzo missed out on a top ten place and will need to take part in Qualifying 1.

As in the earlier FP2 session, many riders struggled to improve on their Thursday lap times during FP3, grip levels having changed after an earlier rain storm.

There were early falls for Danilo Petrucci and Jonas Folger, while the side of Scott Redding's fairing then popped open on the main straight. Redding and Cal Crutchlow fell at the end of the session...

Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/...QIXDkdUkzph.99
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the Maniacs shows once again that he has somekind of a brain on/off switch installed in his head
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no drainage system in place ...

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"boss, should we add/plan a drainage system for the track ... it does rain here sometimes"
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Qualifying was washed out... the starting grid is determined by FP3 results. Front row is Vinales, Iannone, Marquez...
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If it's a wet race, there might be some significant attrition.
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Fookin' hell! What a race! Maybe it's because I've been anticipating the start of the season this year more because of all the shuffling in the teams but that was a great race.
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You think Ducati is having second thoughts about signing Lorenzo?
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Awesome race.

Vinales is calm, collected, smoooth...a faster version of Lorenzo. And that's a lethal combination.

What can you say about Rossi that hasn't already been said. He's what, 17 years older than Vinales? Capirossi, long since retired and the current safety director, used to race with Rossi.

Poor Dovi ... always the bridesmaid, never the bride (as some commentator said).

And Zarco...man, one rookie mistake and crash! Otherwise, the race would have been even more thrilling. Can you imagine if Zarco and Vinales were fighting for the win?

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Zarco was whaling Vinales and everbody else for quite a few laps, it looked like it was his race to lose. Vinales and everybody else were hoping Zarco made a mistake. He did. I was surprised Iannone crashed, that was a battle. Rossi finishing 3rd was great. His starting position sucked. Got nicked at the start and dragged his camera the whole race. Bet the fluttering of that sucked at 200MPH down the straight. That was a great race!
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In the post race interview Rossi said his body can't keep up with these kids and he was happy for his result. To be still on the podium and ever a threat to win at his age is a testament to his amazing skill and knowledge.

Lorenzo seems so fragile. If the bike doesn't suit him, or his visor fogs a bit, or the phase of the moon is off, he's just not at all competitive. Which JLo will show up for any given race is anybody's guess.

I have to admit to pulling for Zarco to hang on to the tail of the tiger. That kid will be fun to watch this season.

Great result for Aprilia. They were congratulating themselves like they had won the race. It'll be interesting to see if KTM can come along and get competitive. Suzuki sure didn't waste any time getting back in the podium hunt.
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i think Rossis mindset is different this year ... at the pre-weekend press-conference he said:
"since my return to Yamaha, i never really started the year with the target of being the champion.
my target is always to win as many races as possible and be competitive."

i was like "whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa .??"
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Up until this moment, I was scratching my head and wondering how a rookie on a satellite bike could be leading, and pulling away, and then,



Once that happened, it was a waiting game to see how long it would take Vinales to catch and make the pass stick, but damn that Ducati is fast. I was hoping that Rossi would catch Dovioso, and surprised that Marquez had to fall back, its going to be an interesting season. As for Lorenzo, any moisture on the track and he loses his competitive edge, I don't think he ever recovered completely emotionally from this,

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Up until this moment, I was scratching my head and wondering how a rookie on a satellite bike could be leading, and pulling away, and then,



Once that happened, it was a waiting game to see how long it would take Vinales to catch and make the pass stick, but damn that Ducati is fast. I was hoping that Rossi would catch Dovioso, and surprised that Marquez had to fall back, its going to be an interesting season. As for Lorenzo, any moisture on the track and he loses his competitive edge, I don't think he ever recovered completely emotionally from this,

That is a dated photo with Simoncelli in the frame!!
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Re: SPOILER - Qatar MotoGP

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Up until this moment, I was scratching my head and wondering how a rookie on a satellite bike could be leading, and pulling away, and then,
I think Tech 3 Yamaha scored a home run picking up Zarco and Folger... some of the rookies brought up from Moto2 can't handle the transition... Tito Rabat is the perfect example. Vinales is going to make life miserable for the rest of the pack this season...
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Re: SPOILER - Qatar MotoGP

Folger and Zarco are on the 2016 bike. A bike that benefited from a whole season of development. By two of the best.

I think Rossi even hinted he'd rather continue developing the 2016 but yamaha wants him to ride the 2017.

The bike is DIALED IN. But credit where credit is due. Zarco rode it hard.
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Re: SPOILER - Qatar MotoGP

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Folger and Zarco are on the 2016 bike. A bike that benefited from a whole season of development. By two of the best.

I think Rossi even hinted he'd rather continue developing the 2016 but yamaha wants him to ride the 2017.

The bike is DIALED IN. But credit where credit is due. Zarco rode it hard.

Yes but unless I'm mistaken, the wings on the 16 bikes are not permitted in the 17 series.
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