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Let there be LED light....

So today I tackled the install of LED bulbs in my bike, it's the end of January been cold for months now, but today it became warm enough to venture into the garage, peel back the cover and at least try to install some LED lights. Didn't take long, got all 3 in and they fit like a dream, no cutting of anything, plug and play, even the dust covers went back on with no issues.

Over all very satisfied with the look, but the real test will be how do they perform in the night, unfortunately this will have to wait for a warmer day and when riding season is back upon us....

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Why does this site not resize pictures automatically....

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Yup..pic's need to be resized (probably best before uploading)<<Hint<<<
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Re: Let there be LED light....

Agreed.. Perhaps one of the moderators would help with resizing them....

One thing I'd like to know about the LED bulbs.... Can you flash the high beam? With HID bulbs you can not which has been the main reason I haven't gone that route.. I flash my high beams quite often and don't want to lose that ability..

BTW.. Our HID supplier also produces LED bulbs, but it's always looked to me like they wouldn't fit behind those plastic caps on the K1200S... I'm surprised you didn't have any issues there..

Thanks for sharing....
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Dang they are huge!
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Well I have smaller pictures, and hopefully the staff here can edit the first post and make things right, take the pictures from here and put them in the first post, and delete the large ones.















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Nice job Dan. Now as soon as you get rid of that snow in the background , let us know how they work in the dark. At least 2-3 more months of snow and cold up north here in Sudbury.
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BTW... got a link of where you got these? I'll like to check the specs and measurements on them....
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Nice job Dan. Now as soon as you get rid of that snow in the background , let us know how they work in the dark. At least 2-3 more months of snow and cold up north here in Sudbury.

I hear ya.....can't wait for the white stuff to be gone......

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Agreed.. Perhaps one of the moderators would help with resizing them....

One thing I'd like to know about the LED bulbs.... Can you flash the high beam? With HID bulbs you can not which has been the main reason I haven't gone that route.. I flash my high beams quite often and don't want to lose that ability..

BTW.. Our HID supplier also produces LED bulbs, but it's always looked to me like they wouldn't fit behind those plastic caps on the K1200S... I'm surprised you didn't have any issues there..

Thanks for sharing....

Flashing of the high beams, can't test right now, bike has to be running does it not ? and I will not be starting it right now as is way below zero, going to have to wait for warmer days...

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Re: Let there be LED light....

Correct me here, but the High/Flash bulb is the 3rd 'eye' in our headlight cluster.. and from the pics it looks like Dan's kept that a normal halogen.. so flashing should not be a problem?
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Correct me here, but the High/Flash bulb is the 3rd 'eye' in our headlight cluster.. and from the pics it looks like Dan's kept that a normal halogen.. so flashing should not be a problem?

You are correct....

but I did change that bulb out as well, but my picture was taken before it was done so it's not showing.....

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I stand corrected, the bottom 2 are high beam and the top is the low beam.....oooppps
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Correct me here, but the High/Flash bulb is the 3rd 'eye' in our headlight cluster.. and from the pics it looks like Dan's kept that a normal halogen.. so flashing should not be a problem?
Top bulb is the low beam, which is the standard light that stays on when bike is running. Bottom two are high beams
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According to product description these are suitable for cars, no mention of motorcycles. I wonder if vibrations while riding will cause issues?
I will be interested to check back with you after a few rides.
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Top bulb is the low beam, which is the standard light that stays on when bike is running. Bottom two are high beams

correct and I fixed my earlier post....

the low beam turn on when the bike is running ? and I have not started the bike as of yet

but by toggling the light switch I can get the highs to go on or off, the flashing I have not tested....

doing all of this with the bike not running....

now we are getting some warmer temps this week well at least above zero, so I might start up the bike to see if all works as it should...

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According to product description these are suitable for cars, no mention of motorcycles. I wonder if vibrations while riding will cause issues?
I will be interested to check back with you after a few rides.

I don't think there should be an issue, but perhaps there is more vibration in a bike than a car, so time will tell...

I will try to keep this thread updated....

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Looks like a cooling fan in there.
Wonder what happens if the fan stops? Fire?
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Re: Let there be LED light....

Along the heat thoughts, will it be necessary to put some vents in the housing to let those heat sinks have some fresh air?
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If the fan stops, I don't know what will happen, usually the unit stops working anyways, so I would expect nothing to really happen, but hey who knows, right...

As for cutting holes into the housing, not a big fan of doing that, as it will just allow dust to get in, moisture as well, and if washing the bike or riding in the rain it could get really wet in there, and this would not be a good thing....

Once I can get the bike running, I will see how hot the units get to see if there is any real concern, I mean the stock bulbs get hot, enough to warm up the lens of the headlight itself, so hopefully the LED units will not generate more heat than the stock bulbs...

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Re: Let there be LED light....

Changed the H7 bulbs over to LEDs on the XR over a year ago. Pleased with the lights, very white and the road signs really light up now (along with wildlife eyes). No fans on the ones I installed. Got them from here. http://www.sol2.be/V...light/page.html
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Changed the H7 bulbs over to LEDs on the XR over a year ago. Pleased with the lights, very white and the road signs really light up now (along with wildlife eyes). No fans on the ones I installed. Got them from here. http://www.sol2.be/V...light/page.html
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Try this one: http://www.sol2.be/Visibility/LED_EN...ight/page.html

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Re: Let there be LED light....

Changed to these from Cyclops last year on both low and high beam. No issues with flashing the high beam and it all fits behind the plastic caps on the K1300S.

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https://www.cyclopsadventuresports.c...Bulb_p_86.html

Nice but paying $65.00 US per light plus shipping, well sorry too rich for my blood.....

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Cool Have you already changed the tail light to LED?
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Cool Have you already changed the tail light to LED?

Yes I have....purchased it from a member here on the site, he was wanting to get rid of it, so I got it.....works like a charm....

I will however for the time being leave the signals alone....the orange matches well with the bike....

you can just make out the tail light here..



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you will find probably hundreds of similar LED's....

What I don't like about those you are looking at or any other ones that have

CANBUS LED SLIM DIGITAL Driver

is you need to find a place for those black boxes....

the ones I used do not have these, just the wire and plug on the end, so it all fit inside the housing...no cutting of the dust caps either...

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Aaaaah I thought you had to cut the dust cap that's why I mentioned they were shorter to avoid cutting a hole Keep the shiny side up
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Re: Let there be LED light....

I didn't notice any posts asking this question, but the led lights look like they have standard household male plugs on them. What did you do to complete the wiring process. And as for use on the high beam, they would do just fine as leds light up "instantly" like halogen.

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H7 bulbs have a two prong set up that looks just like that.
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I didn't notice any posts asking this question, but the led lights look like they have standard household male plugs on them. What did you do to complete the wiring process. And as for use on the high beam, they would do just fine as leds light up "instantly" like halogen.

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Unplugged from the original bulbs, removed them, installed the LED bulbs, and plugged them into the original wires, no muss no fuss, put back the dust caps, all done.

And yes the LED light up instantly...

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Re: Let there be LED light....

I started up the bike today, we had somewhat warmer temperatures, so it was do or die....

And I am please to report, all works as it should, low beam, high beam, all 3 will stay on with the switch, and yes the highs will even blink by using the switch

Now how good of a light they throw this I don't know, but I love the birght white color these LED's throw off, as opposed to the yellowish glow from the stock bulbs....

Just the low beam



And all 3 up and running





Can't show that the blinking works, would need a video of that, but trust me everything is working as it should....

YAY..........


Ohh by the way at first the low beam did not work, but a quick disconnect and a 180 of the plug, there was light, I forgot LED's are tempermental and will only work with the wiring on just one way.....

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I started up the bike today, we had somewhat warmer temperatures, so it was do or die....

And I am please to report, all works as it should, low beam, high beam, all 3 will stay on with the switch, and yes the highs will even blink by using the switch

Now how good of a light they throw this I don't know, but I love the birght white color these LED's throw off, as opposed to the yellowish glow from the stock bulbs....

Just the low beam



And all 3 up and running





Can't show that the blinking works, would need a video of that, but trust me everything is working as it should....

YAY..........


Ohh by the way at first the low beam did not work, but a quick disconnect and a 180 of the plug, there was light, I forgot LED's are tempermental and will only work with the wiring on just one way.....

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Three new bulbs or two? If only two colour temp looks identical.
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All 3 bulbs have been replaced with LED bulbs

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Re: Let there be LED light....

I did a similar install running LEDs in my high beams. I run HID for my low beam as I'm still concerned about the heat generated from an LED unit running continuously (and cooling fan failure). I'm curious to see how everything holds up with your low beam. When I switch on my LED high beams on the road at night they work extremely well. Almost turns night into day. I think you will be very pleased with the light output/pattern. Thanks for sharing.
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I did a similar install running LEDs in my high beams. I run HID for my low beam as I'm still concerned about the heat generated from an LED unit running continuously (and cooling fan failure). I'm curious to see how everything holds up with your low beam. When I switch on my LED high beams on the road at night they work extremely well. Almost turns night into day. I think you will be very pleased with the light output/pattern. Thanks for sharing.
Have been running after-market LED headlights on my F150 for almost two years now.

They're fan-equipped similar to the ones shown in photos.

Have had no issues with the fans other than a low-volume hum.....the fans continue to run for 30 sec after shutdown whenever the headlights are on.

And they are bright.!!

Have had LED headlights in our two four-wheelers (2015 535xi and 2017 X3) and love the LED's. They are BRIGHT.!!!!
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Have you had a chance to do a full report on the LEDs yet????
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Have you had a chance to do a full report on the LEDs yet????

Not as of yet, we have only just gotten some nicer weather, and the 2 times I was out was only during the day time.

I can say the lights are still working, but how well at night, is yet to be determined.

This weekend is supposed to be nice, I will try to get out and report back

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Finally........


On Sunday night after my shift that ends at midnight, I was riding home in the dark with the newly LED lights installed....


I love em........


Light pattern is same as the old bulbs, but the white light the LED's cast is fantastic, it really brightens up the road and makes it much easier to see, even the lines painted on the roadway stand out better.


And if the the high beams and low beam are on all at the same time, it's as if the sun came out.


With just the low bean on, No one flashed at me, so this tells me the lights are not blinding anyone in the oncoming lanes, so the pattern is spot on, this is a good thing, as I did not want to be adjusting.


So it was a plug and play affair, and I have some great white light ahead of me...


Couldn't be happier....


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Based on your report I just ordered my LED headlight and parking light from cyclops. I only ordered the low beam for now, for I dont ride at night unless I get caught in it. The basic reason I'm changing to LED is to match the micro LED Denali lights I added on. The two colors between LED and HALOGEN really didn't look good, plus I figure this will only make me even more visible during the day. Cyclops wasn't sure if I was going to need the resister or not to prevent the lamp code, says BMWs are kinda all over the board, some may defiantly need it were another model or even a different year may not so I ordered it in case, they said I can always send it back.
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I ordered the same bulbs you did to try them out.. Thinking about selling them if I like the results, but I have a question..

Received and opened the bulbs just now and the plug on them is a 2 prong plug..

I never claimed to be the sharpest crayon in the box, but does it matter which way you plug it in? The instructions don't say.. One side must be the ground.. How did you know? or does it matter?

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Plug them in, if they dont light up turn the plug over and try. Nothing can happen if its wrong way.
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Plug them in, if they dont light up turn the plug over and try. Nothing can happen if its wrong way.

Yup....couldn’t have said it better myself.....
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I think that would really be a great idea in selling them. Everything I'm reading is saying LEDs have really made some great advancements. I think the HID kits will soon be a thing of the past.
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Hey Dan , ...... can you see me now ? Just finished installing mine. Boy , you were not kidding , those things are bright.
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Hey Dan , ...... can you see me now ? Just finished installing mine. Boy , you were not kidding , those things are bright.

I was wondering why tonight seemed brighter than normal.....lol

Glad to hear your liking them....

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I agree.. At some point HIDs will be a thing of the past, but IMHO that's still a few years out. We're not there yet..

As for these LED kits, I'm looking forward to trying mine out. Should do the install later today. I'd bet a BJ from Amber that the brightness will be somewhere in between the oem bulbs and HID.. Probably much brighter than standard oem, but noticeably less than a good HID kit...

As far as adding them to our menu, the main attraction for LED kits like these over an HID kit is the ease of install and cheaper price. Other benefits like longer life, shock-proof nature, cooler running temps, and instant on/off is just icing.

I'm getting conflicting answers from the manufacturer as to lumens.. Just this am I got 2 emails from the company. One said 8000 lumens per bulb.. the other said 8000 lumens for BOTH bulbs (2 came in a pack that I bought), but only 4000 per bulb.. Trying to get the correct answer as we speak..


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The cyclops web page says there's are: 4800 lumens and the color is 5700K per bulb.
I called cyclops and they were extremely helpful in answering a few questions I had.
They talked to me right away, I felt they had awesome customer service, maybe you could talk to them about selling there product as well, just a thought
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I just spoke with a rep at Jiuguang (the manufacturer in China) and he says.. (pasted)

"It would appear each bulb is 4000lms and the pair 8000lms. The color temp is 6500K"


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The cyclops web page says there's are: 4800 lumens and the color is 5700K per bulb.
I called cyclops and they were extremely helpful in answering a few questions I had.
They talked to me right away, I felt they had awesome customer service, maybe you could talk to them about selling there product as well, just a thought
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a before and after road test would be nise. Also do they lessen or increase strain on charging system?
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I would definatley say less of a strain because they use less power.
Just like the LEDs for your house. I believe a standard 100watt build is the same as a 23 watt LED
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Gatekeeper, could you park the bike on a level surface 5m from a smooth wall and take a picture with the low beam on?
Best done at night.
Would like to see the spreadpattern and cutoff line these bulbs give.
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Well , went for a nice ride today. After a few minutes I noticed I had a 'LAMP !' alarm ? Pulled over checked all the lights, ..... all okay. Turned the key off , then restarted the bike and the alarm shut off. Great I thought. After a few more minutes , alarm back on . Was like this every time I had to restart the bike.

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Gatekeeper, could you park the bike on a level surface 5m from a smooth wall and take a picture with the low beam on?
Best done at night.
Would like to see the spreadpattern and cutoff line these bulbs give.

I can try, just might take a bit of time, a few days at least..
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Well , went for a nice ride today. After a few minutes I noticed I had a 'LAMP !' alarm ? Pulled over checked all the lights, ..... all okay. Turned the key off , then restarted the bike and the alarm shut off. Great I thought. After a few more minutes , alarm back on . Was like this every time I had to restart the bike.

Now what ??

Well that sucks,,,,I have no such error showing up to date..

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Put the resister in and see if all will be good
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Re: Let there be LED light....

Got a chance to try out my new LED headlight bulb today. I installed it in the low beam slot only... I'll add that I never ever ride at night so the only places I can actually see the difference is in the many tunnels we have on the Blue Ridge Parkway. Not ideal, but some are long and dark enough to get an idea...

Install: While the install is plug-n-play,.... at least for the K1200S, that describes the wiring only which is as simple as plugging in a lamp.. One plug and you're done... or are you?
Unlike a standard halogen or HID bulb,.. the body of the LED bulb is FAT. Getting those two metal prongs (that hold the bulb in place) to wrap around that big fat body wasn't easy.. Took me at least 10 or so minutes and 5-6 tries to get it secured and the entire time I was praying to Allah that I didn't snap one of those spindly prongs off.. I'm NOT looking forward to doing the high beams as those look like they'd be harder to do...

Gatekeeper... did you have similar problems with you're install?

Road Test: I have been using Sylvania H7 Xtra Vision halogen bulbs for the last few years and I've ridden another Kbike with HID so I know how bright those are...I was very curious as to how the LED would fare... While the numbers (below) are suspect ... I'd say the LED bulb is about right in between in visible brightness.. Where the HID is 100% brighter.. my seat-o-da-pants impression is that the LED is about 50% brighter. It throws a wider pattern than my halogen with a whiter, brighter light, but about the same distance. Even with my install problems I'm very happy with the result. I've been wanting more light up front, but honestly.. I've simply been to chicken-shit to install an HID kit as those take actual effort, time, and thinking..

What's baffling to me is the numbers... the simply don't add up.. I simply do not believe one LED bulb pumps out 8000 lumens yet it's on the box..it's on each bulb.. and a rep from the manufacturer said that's right.. I looked at other brand, similar LED bulbs and most hover around 4000 lumens and that's a number I can believe.. I think what they are doing is... there are 2 bulbs in each box and combined they may be hitting that 8000 number. I did some research and it appears that many Chinese companies are posting the high number to reflect the combined lumens to help sales. That being said.. I think the H7 LED bulb I installed and most others on the market are around 3800-4000 lumens. Still a vast improvement over oem or any other halogen bulb.

Sylvania Xtra Vision Halogen Bulb
Color- 3200K
Lumens- 1000
Rated bulb life- 850 hours

NSSC HID 35w H7 Bulb (we sell)
Color- 5000K
Lumens- 3500
Rated bulb life- 3000 hours

Jiayou New Energy LED Bulb
Color- 6500K
Lumens- Box of (2) says 8000 / Realistically 4000 per bulb
Rated bulb life- 50,000 hours

There are a lot of benefits to changing to LED over HID, but right now they are NOT as bright as any HID kit. IMHO that will change in the next 2-3 years. That being said, I'll probably convert my high beam to LED at some point and after a little more road testing I may add LED kits to our menu on a trial basis to see how customers like them. I'm mostly worried that they'll run into install problems like me.. I'm no psychic, but I foresee more than one customer calling in a rage after they break off one of those metal bulb holder prongs trying to install one of these fat beauties.. Repairing that would cost hundreds of dollars, me thinks...
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But the plastic H7 flange, will it not come off if you twist the bulb in it?
There is usually some kind och bayonette fitting so that piece can be installed first the the bulb is inserted into that and twisted/rotated to lock.
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Jerry , the directions are poor , to say the least. Once I figured out what the socket was the install on the low beam was ' chimp easy '. Like Mattias said the light will come off the black socket. ( counter clock wise ). Then put the socket in , but the wire holder down in place, then put the light back in the socket. (Clock wise ). Plug it in and your good to go. Five minute job.

Now the high beams are a total cluster !$&@,, they must have taken me 2 hours to do. Even had a friend come over for help.

They are bright !
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