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Ford is basically giving up on US car business, and GM is not far behind...

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/26/ford...ar-behind.html

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Ford's plan to reduce its passenger car lineup to just two models, and GM's difficulty selling passenger cars in the U.S. show how much tastes are drifting toward trucks, SUVs and crossovers.

Ford will only update the Focus Active crossover and Mustang for the U.S. market, while GM called out a challenging passenger car environment.
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Sedans Just Arenít Selling At Hyundai

And on the flip side, perhaps the biggest harbinger of the sedanpocalypse is Hyundai, whose sedan-heavy lineup just isnít working out well for them. Hyundaiís quarterly profit halved to an almost six-year low thanks to bleak sales in the United States and China, reports Reuters.

Hyundai makes some pretty good cars nowadays, and they picked up some customers recently from GMís struggling South Korean arm in their home market. But they havenít responded fast enough to the demand for SUVs in two of its biggest markets, and thatís hurting them. Reuters writes:

https://jalopnik.com/jeep-s-success-...ord-1825562558
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I wonder how much of this trend has to do with the abundance of US roads that are in such shit shape. Pick-ups and other high suspension vehicles simply make the ride smoother.

"Hey, rather than paying taxes to fix the roads (or line some politician's pockets), I'll just spend that money on a car I like that can handle the crumbling infrastructure"
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Re: Ford is basically giving up on US car business, and GM is not far behind

I think a lot of it has to do with cheap gas. Let gas go back up to 3.50 - 4.00 a gallon and the used car lots will be full of SUVs and big pickups. Then car makers will be scrambling to make small cars again.
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Re: Ford is basically giving up on US car business, and GM is not far behind

I agree fuel prices are relatively cheap and as the sales indicate folks are spending big bucks on SUV's and trucks. So that would suggest the economy is strong and the work force as well.
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I think a lot of it has to do with cheap gas. Let gas go back up to 3.50 - 4.00 a gallon and the used car lots will be full of SUVs and big pickups. Then car makers will be scrambling to make small cars again.

yup. just travel to any other country and look at the gas price, car taxes and car sizes. i was just in germany. a bmw 5 series was a HUGE car relative to the majority. PU's practically nonexistent. SUV's rare.

last time gas was expensive in US you couldn't give away a large SUV.
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GAS IS GOING UP - SALES WILL CHANGE SOON!!!!
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Re: Ford is basically giving up on US car business, and GM is not far behind

Our gas is well over $5.50 cdn per gallon. Doesn't seem like they are selling any less trucks and SUV...

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Re: Ford is basically giving up on US car business, and GM is not far behind

Ford Taurus, sure, I want one, NOT. Ford has been making shite cars for years. No loss. Ford 500, oh yea, another winner. WTF. They needed to strip everyone over 40 out of there years ago.
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Re: Ford is basically giving up on US car business, and GM is not far behind

You should have swedish gas prices, a US gallon, 3,78L, would cost you 6,64USD. Of that 4,49usd are pure taxes, whats left is for the gascompany to make a living off and then pay 20% coporate taxes on the profit.

On of our political parties have it as a goal to make fuel cost no less than 8,73USD per gallon.

This is pretty much normal standard in all of europe.

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I think a lot of it has to do with cheap gas. Let gas go back up to 3.50 - 4.00 a gallon and the used car lots will be full of SUVs and big pickups. Then car makers will be scrambling to make small cars again.
Agreed. The last time gas was $4.00+/gallon here I sold my fuel miser for an outlandish price and picked up TWO V8's (blown Sequoia and 540i) on the cheap.

I'm just happy as hell that I got my motorhome sold before gas goes crazy again. At 8 mpg (when not in hybrid mode) the cost is real.
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