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Old 06-13-2015, 08:27 AM
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^^^ did you also grease the bearings in the dogbone link?
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I installed 25mm riser plates today, put bike on centre stand, 12mm thick piece of timber about 1m long under back tyre, wedge under timber to take weight of swing arm, removed bolts and plates (slid out easily because of no load), placed new riser plates and top 2 bolts, slowly moved wedge allowing wheel to lower until bottom hole came into alignment, put bolt through hole, locktite, torque wrench, all done in under half an hour.

The EXACT method I used. Three times (tried 31mm, then tried 25mm, then settled on 31mm). Very, very easy
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Re: Riser Plates by Beech...

Well I bought some schwabenmax 31mm riser plates but doesnt look like I will be fitting them as it looks like the bike might be being swapped for a S1000R. So if anyone would like a pair of brand new plates mine are for sale (I will list them in classifieds).

$90 plus postage from the UK or 60 plus postage.

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Well I bought some schwabenmax 31mm riser plates but doesnt look like I will be fitting them as it looks like the bike might be being swapped for a S1000R. So if anyone would like a pair of brand new plates mine are for sale (I will list them in classifieds).

$90 plus postage from the UK or 60 plus postage.

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You mean s1000xr right? If so, I think you will be disappointed. I demoed the bike and it vibrates like a vibrator. Since u already have the plates why don't u install them and see.
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You mean s1000xr right? If so, I think you will be disappointed. I demoed the bike and it vibrates like a vibrator. Since u already have the plates why don't u install them and see.

No I mean the s1000r, the naked rr. Always been a naked bike fan. Test rode one earlier in the year and absolutely loved it. Nothing definite yet anyway.

I know what you mean may be worth fitting them and seeing the difference.
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Installed today new Michelin road power4 GT today and the 31mm riser plates by BMW of Manhattan. All I can say is wow!!! Riding in Manhattan at low speed was so much easier as the steering wheel is so easy to move right now. Rode the bike back to long island. There was a lot of traffic on the LIE as usual. All I can say is that sharing/splitting lanes is so much easier, like 1,000%. Looking forward to try the bike on some twistee roads.

Thanks to Charlie, Beech, John and everybody else on this forum. You guys are really resourceful.

One small thing however. Looks like my ESA is stuck at 2 helmets. I am sure that somehow the dealer messed it up as I did my 6K service and had some issue with my ABS. Dealer told me to come back and they will fix it. But has anyone experienced this problem?

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Gabi glad you like the plates would you care to share your height ans weight?
There is a recall for the handle bar switches call the dealer they will swap in a new set
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Looks like my ESA is stuck at 2 helmets.

A broken wire at the front shock (just above the fender) can induce this fault.
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A broken wire at the front shock (just above the fender) can induce this fault.
You are right! My abs wire got damaged and needs to be replaced. Thanks
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Gabi glad you like the plates would you care to share your height ans weight?
There is a recall for the handle bar switches call the dealer they will swap in a new set
Stan, I'm 5.10" and I'm able to easily flat foot my feet even though EAS is on 2 helmets. And the bike has a mean lean now that is actually more secure.
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And I'm about 180lb. Where do I get more info about the recall?
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Re: Riser Plates by Beech...

There are two recalls one for the rear wheel flange replacement,
and the other for the bar switches.

and then for the fuel pump retrofit when the fuel pump inspection is done,
make sure to tell the dealer that the bike is hard to start when its hot,
they also have a starter wire harness upgrade thats covered if you you tell them about the hot start.

Look into modding the side stand ,
two mods ,one is to grind away some of the forward stop so the stand goes further past center,
the other is to fit a extension to the stand,
I used a hockey puck it works well
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There are two recalls one for the rear wheel flange replacement,
and the other for the bar switches.

and then for the fuel pump retrofit when the fuel pump inspection is done,
make sure to tell the dealer that the bike is hard to start when its hot,
they also have a starter wire harness upgrade thats covered if you you tell them about the hot start.

Look into modding the side stand ,
two mods ,one is to grind away some of the forward stop so the stand goes further past center,
the other is to fit a extension to the stand,
I used a hockey puck it works well


Are you sure those recalls apply to my 2015 Motorsport model?
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Re: Riser Plates by Beech...

Installed my plates today. Gotta give Beech props for sending Loctite with 'em and 2day Priority Mail. Oddly it took a little 'english' to get them on because the suspension was unloaded and fully actuated. Some impromptu geometry homework ensued.

The '15 Motorsport Edition should not be subject to the wheel flange recall. The switchgear, yes. Mine went DOA somewhere between PDI and mile zero.
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Holy crap! Beech, if we ever meet, I'll buy the beer.

At one point in a constant radius corner, I just let go. The bike no longer needed me to push all the way through. Steering is balanced and effortless. These plates correct the engineering mistake in the suspension.
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Steering is balanced and effortless. These plates correct the engineering mistake in the suspension.
Some tires require you to push, some are neutral. I think the suspension was set up correctly, but BMW cannot control tire profile. My Michelin's never had completely neutral cornering, the Conti's did. But I like the break away on the Michelins better.
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Can you post the riser plate install instructions or provide a LINK for them...

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Re: Riser Plates by Beech...

Here you go complete with pictures

How to install riser plates
NOTE I started with the 31 MM plates then switched to the 25MM plates,
To me the bike feels better balanced with the 25 plates.

NOTE I also did the side stand mod so the stand goes further forward to reduce the tendency to roll off the side stand


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Can you post the riser plate install instructions or provide a LINK for them...

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This is what I send with the plates. Other folks instructions are a good thing too. beech

The plates you have are relay linkage plates intended to change the handling of your bike by changing the suspension angle. They raise the rear 31mm changing the castor angle in front. They seem not to make any major (detrimental) angle changes with the drive line U joints but These plates raise the rear of the bike 31mm as used by The European Power Cup series bikes. the do change this angle a little, well within reasonable limits from what I see in engineering studies on the web. (the 25mm plates raise the bike a lesser amount, 25mm.)
Kneedragger talks about them in his thread comments on bike changes;
http://www.i-bmw.com/showthread.php?...ght=minor+mods
and another customer here:
http://www.i-bmw.com/showthread.php?...d=1#post629787

The sharp edges go inside, they are a mirror pair. Observe your originals as they come off for position replacement of the new ones. The holes will not be very different but it makes a large change in the suspension set. The plates are made from .25” 7075 aluminum. Slightly thicker than stock BMW plates. This alloy is extremely strong. A serious bump up from the typical 6062 use to make most parts. The hole pattern was done for accuracy on a digital read out milling machine. The bolt holes are .392” for 10mm bolts as used on the bike. There is zinc chromate under the black paint on the current issue. Each plate set is a matched set. There is a central hole 5/16” in diameter that was used in fabrication and is not a functional detail in normal use. (they were bolted together for fabrication.)

There is a thread on installation:
http://www.i-bmw.com/showthread.php?...ht=31mm+plates
The high points are 28 ft./lbs. torque and blue Loctite needed.

Lube the bearings in your dog bone linkage (relay bar) at this time and every two years. Check plates for condition and your relay bar. These bars have broken or bent in the past (when the bearings freeze up from no lube).

There are more versions of these plates at:

http://www.schwabenmax.de/Navigation...%20English.htm

Don’t forget you need to think about the side stand being an inch short now. Center stand is a good way to go. Verholen sells one that is very nice.
http://www.bmwmotorcycleaccessories....4901-10103.htm
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'The plates are installed. As SIMPLE as it seems,, HA,,, Install two little aluminum plates,,,,,,,,,,,,,, They gave me a FIT!

I somehow got them on BASACKWADS. Once I figured out that I had them on wrong, They did go right on.

Recommendation. Stamp letters above each hole for where that hole goes.. Im very mechanically inclined and fix everything my self and most always have great success.

Thank You for all the great products that you provide. Your rear wheel balancing adaptor is a WORK OF ART! WOW! It really fits and works EXCELLENT!

I still have a few more projects to complete on the bike so, I have not put the riser plates through their paces as of yet.

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Re: Riser Plates by Beech...

Your not alone in orientation problems. I have been putting paper labels on the last few sets going out. It does say to observe how your old plates come off in the instructions , but your right, it needs to be fool proof. I'll buy an arrow stamp soon and then things will take a turn. Good riding. I have left out the decorator holes in the rear wheel adapters the last few batches as a time saver. If the batch occurs in the winter I have time to prim them up some, summer batches is head down get it done. I use a diamond tipped lathe tool for the last cuts on the wheel adapters (just for fun) for a nice finish. Thanks for the nice comments.
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Hi Beech,

I sent you an email regarding a pair of 25mm plates for my k1300s.
Could you please let me know the ordering details

Thanks in advance,
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Re: Riser Plates by Beech...

Beech,

I finally fixed my friends K1200S (replaced two engines, long story).
Asked another friend to ride both my K12R and the K12S.
He said the K12S rides like a fat whale, and the K12R is nimble, why? he asked...

Told him it was the riser plates I got from ya. Night and day.
However, I must say that the K12R does not feel as planted at speed. It got the 31mm plates.
So, what's the next number down? 25mm?
Let me know.
I'll be looking for some helibars for the K12S, not a whole lot of leverage...
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Re: Riser Plates by Beech...

I found that the 31 mm plates made my 2011 K1300S a bit skittish at higher speeds , crosswinds also seemed to upset its stability.
and it was closer to wanting to fall into a turn.

With the stock plates, the bike felt like it always wanted to go straight,
and in a turn the bike would want to stand back up,
it took work to make it turn.

My compromise was the 25mm plates,
these seemed perfect the bike held its position in a turn it was easy to transition from left to right and high speeed stability was excellent as was low speed pothole dodging

Me about 205 and 5 11 geared up 32 inch inseam
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What tires?
I had wound up with lowering plates to get similar handling with Michelin Pilot Power 3, but will change to 25 risers with Michelin Pilot Power RS. The RS are a bit more stable.
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Michelin pilot power GT
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Re: Riser Plates by Beech...

Thanks for the feedback.
Yeah, the 31mm plates transformed my K12R. But I doesn't feel as planted above 120mph.

The K12S felt very, very stable with the stock plates.
Perhaps the 25 mm would be the best setup.
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That stability is a trade off for cornering or changing direction imho the 25 is a great choice for both
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Thanks for the feedback.
Yeah, the 31mm plates transformed my K12R. But I doesn't feel as planted above 120mph.

The K12S felt very, very stable with the stock plates.
Perhaps the 25 mm would be the best setup.
I can see how there is a trade off. I do have 25 mm plates in stock. Because the bike is out of production and fewer people are original owners these days, there is not much action on K bike parts. There is another fellow with some 25mm plates selling them at 40$, I think he still has three sets. Pick your poison.
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Oh! Who sells them at $40?
It's for a friend, not for me.
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Oh! Who sells them at $40?
It's for a friend, not for me.

Thanks for the plug Beech!

I'd be the person that is selling them for my cost ($40/pair). I had a Machinist Friend (Dale Kuykendahl) make 6 sets for me. I've sold 2 pair and have 3 pair left. They're Laser Cut from 6.35 mm thick T6 Aluminum Plate (OEM is 6 mm thick).

I put my set on simultaneous with a change from the wooden feeling OE Metzeler SportTec M3s to Pirelli Angel GTs (Non A-Spec) and I'm very pleased with the improved agility! I have just over 7k miles on my set and just completed a 4.7k mile trip in the Western States last month.

Send me a PM if you're interested.
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Old 11-07-2017, 09:44 PM
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Re: Riser Plates by Beech...

Hi all,
Fitted a set of the 25mm riser plates from Beech in September.
Beech was great, sent through all the info to make sure I knew what it was all about and promptly sent the plates to OZ.
The plates arrived pretty quickly for overseas orders (things take longer to get from Sydney to Tas than from USA to Tas. Go figure...) and were well made with a stealth black oxide coating. Very kool.

Fitted perfectly and rode well. Settings are now back to one-up with luggage instead of two-up with luggage (I am a large fellow at 105kg so I boost the settings a touch until I get wilbers made for me).

Thanks Beech.
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