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2012 K1300S Lighting upgrades

Guys my 2012 K1300S I bought a few months ago is a great bike, but, it has stock lighting and I'm not thinking it was as good as on my old K1200RS which I had put PIU1100s on and HID bulb kit from Jerry the Pirate. The rear lighting is stock also. This 2012 K1300S bike is awesome!

What would you suggest is the best lighting upgrades for this bike? HID bulbs from Jerry the Pirate - do those work good on one of these bikes? Any upgrades for the high beam? What about lower flood lights of some type? Any upgrades for the rear lighting would you recommend?

Thanks in advance. Mark Edwards, Palm Harbor, FL
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Re: 2012 K1300S Lighting upgrades

I'd like to hear about this as well since I have a 2009 with stock lighting and it's the only thing I really dislike about the bike. From my perspective, I'm not looking to install one of those crazy intense blue bulbs that makes me look like a squid. I just want to upgrade and get some bright, white light projected some distance forward.

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Re: 2012 K1300S Lighting upgrades

an HID kit is a given.... On my K1200S I've added quite a few accessory lights..LED license plate frame, changed tail lights, added a PIAA light up front, but my hands down favorite add-on that makes the biggest visual difference are front and rear Blinker Genies... http://pirateslair.net/BlinkerGenie.htm

While they are cheap, it's an old school install. No plug-n-play.. They consist of only 3 wires as I recall, but you have to find the correct wires yourself and splice into them.. Worth every penny... Night and day difference... My 2 doubloons.
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Pirate's HID kit is fantastic... don't hesitate!!
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Do any of you put the Clearwater Lights model "Darla" LED lights on the forks? This looks like it might be great but this looks to be a $700 investment, I would bet.
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Re: 2012 K1300S Lighting upgrades

I have been using HID for about 10 years. On my K-S's there were always beam pattern issues because the location of the arc in the bulb. It was bright but didn't really throw the light where it needed to be. Plus, the warm up time made them unsuitable for high beams.
Just switched to Cyclops Adventure Sports 4000Lumen H-7 LEDs. They position the emitters so the light pattern is the same as the stock bulb. The color is bright white, the electronics are smaller than HIDs so waverthing fits inside the headlight assembly. I had no canbus issues bit they do offer resistors if you should need one. No heat issues even in South Florida stop and go traffic. If you call them talk to Greg. He was very helpful.
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I presume then, you put H-7 bulbs on both High Beam and Low Beam with that setup?
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I presume then, you put H-7 bulbs on both High Beam and Low Beam with that setup?
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I've had all 3 H-7 lamps via Cyclops for 40k+ miles. Work great.
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Anybody using the Clearwater Lights? The "Darla" on the fork legs?
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Upgraded main light to lens + xenon


also pic of another guys who did the same


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Upgraded main light to lens + xenon
So what are these? Then don't exactly look like "plug-and-play".
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I presume then, you put H-7 bulbs on both High Beam and Low Beam with that setup?
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Yep!
Works like a charm. I had purchase the resistors just in case I had a canbus bus warning. Never had to instal them.
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So what are these? Then don't exactly look like "plug-and-play".
yes, it was custom upgrade. Had to cut main headlight a bit, (did by mechanic) and it was pricey, but the result is amazing.

No upgraded bulb will give you such a bright light and good aimed to ground without blinding other drivers.
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Wow, that upgrade looks amazing!! Where did you do this? Costs?
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I will be installing the Clearwater Darla lights on my K13s, however, as on my K12rs, they will be mounted beneath the oil cooler in the cowl. From years of using hi intensity lamps for off road use on 4wd vehicles, I do not like the shadows cast on undulating road surfaces from low mounted lights. Nor do I want the lateral light dispersion to be restricted by the front wheel/fender partially eclipsing the normal pattern. I haven't arrived at a completely satisfactory mounting method as yet, but the K12 required a little creativity as well to accomplish the same result.

I did replace the OEM bulbs, hi & lo beam, with Sylvania Ultras which helped immensely in conjunction with raising the adjustment for the headlamp housing. Be careful with this adjustment since there is no stop limit on the thread. If the adjustment limit is exceeded, the time to get the mechanism back together is substantial unless you have very small hands.
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Works like a charm. I had purchase the resistors just in case I had a canbus bus warning. Never had to instal them.

Can you instal the 7000 Lumen LED's on the K1300S?
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Can you instal the 7000 Lumen LED's on the K1300S?

H7s are physically smaller than H4s. Cyclops only makes 7000 lumen bulbs in the H4 size. The H7s are currently at 4000 lumens. I've got last years 3200 lumen H7s in mine and they are fantastic. I have considered upgrading to the 4000 lumen bulb on the low beam only. Just not sure how much real world difference it will make. I also had considered doing an HID retrofit mod like Furystorm, but when the 3200 Lumen H7s from cyclops became available the cost benefit changed in favor of the LEDs. And the install went from many hours of carefully opening the headlight housing to simple bulb replacement. The only thing I wish it that the LEDs were available in 4200-4500k color temp instead of the 5700k color temp. But at least unlike HIDs, the color temp does not shift higher over time.
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Works like a charm. I had purchase the resistors just in case I had a canbus bus warning. Never had to instal them.

If you don't ride for extended periods of time with the high beams on you may never need them. I have the 3200 lumen version and I rode for 4.5 hours before getting a LAMPF on the low beam bulb when running the high beams. I also once got it when switching the highs on and off repeatedly due to oncoming traffic. But that only happened once and I couldn't get it to repeat under similar circumstances. Put a resistor on the low beam only and no problems ever since.
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I have used both the Cyclops LED and the Pirate HID in both my bikes k13S and S1000r. I put the first HID kit in the K13S about 4 years ago I think and it did great and when the ballast failed last year (whilst on a trip in Canada I replaced it with the same HID. I have the 3200 H7 LEDS in the high beams and they are awesome especially at night. I get a LAMPF with the highs on but it goes away when they are off so I can live with that.

On the S1000r I replaced both lights with LEDS, the S1KR has a PITA "safety" for the USA market which means the low switches off after a few seconds if you put on the high beam. I wired the low to the accessory plug to get around this but the HID draws too much current at startup for that circuit but the LED is fine. So now I have 2 4000 Lumen LEDS in plus LED parking light bulbs and its BRIGHT. They are are a pain to fit on the S1Kr as you have to take off pretty much all of the front and find places for the little modulator things, also you have to shave a bit off the headlight fairing for the wires to get the cap on but its worth it.

On the K13S its much easier you can stuff everything inside the headlight fairing and the caps go on fine.
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Re: 2012 K1300S Lighting upgrades

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I will be installing the Clearwater Darla lights on my K13s, however, as on my K12rs, they will be mounted beneath the oil cooler in the cowl. From years of using hi intensity lamps for off road use on 4wd vehicles, I do not like the shadows cast on undulating road surfaces from low mounted lights. Nor do I want the lateral light dispersion to be restricted by the front wheel/fender partially eclipsing the normal pattern. I haven't arrived at a completely satisfactory mounting method as yet, but the K12 required a little creativity as well to accomplish the same result.

I did replace the OEM bulbs, hi & lo beam, with Sylvania Ultras which helped immensely in conjunction with raising the adjustment for the headlamp housing. Be careful with this adjustment since there is no stop limit on the thread. If the adjustment limit is exceeded, the time to get the mechanism back together is substantial unless you have very small hands.

Hi Jeano

Did you ever come up with a mount for the Clearwater lights under the front as opposed to the forks? I too don't like the idea of the fork mount. Thanks in advance. Jeff :
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Pirate's HID kit is fantastic... don't hesitate!!

Agree- excellent piece of kit - great value for the money. Plus, always good to support the Pirate- he is an excellent guy and a great resource around here!

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Do any of you put the Clearwater Lights model "Darla" LED lights on the forks? This looks like it might be great but this looks to be a $700 investment, I would bet.

I did and its worth every penny in my opinion- great increase in visibility during the day, and tremendous increase in visibility when riding at night. Highly recommended

I also really like having them on the forks for safety reasons. I do believe the research that indicates having a triangle of light helps cagers better judge your distance (when approaching an intersection, for example) which improves safety. Here is a summary: https://motolight.com/triangle-of-light/
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Curious to know where you bought the lens from. I can see that it would have a difference in focussing the low beam. It also gives the lioght that low beam "BMW look"

Cheers for your response

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Did you ever come up with a mount for the Clearwater lights under the front as opposed to the forks? I too don't like the idea of the fork mount. Thanks in advance. Jeff :

Jeff, apologize for the delay in reply. Out of state for the past several weeks. I finally gave in to KISS by reluctantly installing the Darla lights using the fork mounts. I was at a loss to find adequate mounting points without fabricating something fairly elaborate to locate the lights up under the cowl. Alternatively, one of the disadvantages of mounting the lights fixed to the frame as opposed to moving in the direction of a turn with the fork seemed like a reasonable option to explore, so I decided to give the prefabed mounts provided a try.
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an HID kit is a given.... On my K1200S I've added quite a few accessory lights..LED license plate frame, changed tail lights, added a PIAA light up front, but my hands down favorite add-on that makes the biggest visual difference are front and rear Blinker Genies... http://pirateslair.net/BlinkerGenie.htm

While they are cheap, it's an old school install. No plug-n-play.. They consist of only 3 wires as I recall, but you have to find the correct wires yourself and splice into them.. Worth every penny... Night and day difference... My 2 doubloons.

Hi me hearty,

A quick question Jerry. Are these available for OZ? Down under we do not have our blinker arrays on all the time. They are dedicated blinkers and only come on when you indicate, either by clicking the switch or using your fingers

I can see the advantage of having brighter indicators, although it does depend on the pseudo simian following in his tin can

Thanks mate as an interesting alternative especially for you guys in the north
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Can you instal the 7000 Lumen LED's on the K1300S?

Hi Chris,

I guess the choice between LED and HID is a personal one, although from what I have been reading I think the HID's have a longer service life If that's not correct then fine as I have already received 2/3 of my installation, with the remaining one back at home when I get there - next weekend

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Curious as to where the lens part of the setup came from Any suggestions?
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If you are asking if I know of any vendors in Australia selling Blinker Genies.. No I do not.. That being said, we ship down under almost every day... but as as mentioned before.. international shipping is painfully expensive these days..

Like in Oz... the blinkers here are just like yours from the factory.. ie..they are dedicated blinkers and only come on when you indicate, either by clicking the switch or using your fingers The Genies change that to stay on all the time and then flash ONLY when you hit the blinker switches..

Keep in mind they are meant as accessory lighting... they don't compete with HID or LED headlights.. The simply "enhance" the visuals of the bike.. any bike...


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A quick question Jerry. Are these available for OZ? Down under we do not have our blinker arrays on all the time. They are dedicated blinkers and only come on when you indicate, either by clicking the switch or using your fingers

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If you are asking if I know of any vendors in Australia selling Blinker Genies.. No I do not.. That being said, we ship down under almost every day... but as as mentioned before.. international shipping is painfully expensive these days..

Like in Oz... the blinkers here are just like yours from the factory.. ie..they are dedicated blinkers and only come on when you indicate, either by clicking the switch or using your fingers The Genies change that to stay on all the time and then flash ONLY when you hit the blinker switches..

Keep in mind they are meant as accessory lighting... they don't compete with HID or LED headlights.. The simply "enhance" the visuals of the bike.. any bike...

Thanks for the heads up I like the idea that our fellow road abusers get to see you much more betterer with the brighter indicators I will investigate further

Cheers mate
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Anybody using the Clearwater Lights? The "Darla" on the fork legs?

Yes I am on my R1200RT. Expensive but they were worth it.
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