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Old 08-07-2014, 10:39 AM
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Wondering if it can be installed at home or I will have to ask dealer to install it.

does it require trimming belly pan ?
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Re: center stand question

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Wondering if it can be installed at home or I will have to ask dealer to install it.

does it require trimming belly pan ?
Yes you can do it at home. Yes you need to trim the belly pan - the cool thing is the belly pan has the cut lines already - just have to follow them.

The hard part - if you want to say is hard - is putting the last bolt in - because of the center stand spring it has a heck of a lot of tension.

Many post here how others tackled that problem.

How I did it took less than 2 minutes - I have a lift table - so I used a tie down - connected it to the center stand and the other end to the lift table eye for the tie downs and tightened up the strap to keep it in place - again all of 2 minutes and no busting knuckles doing it.
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Re: center stand question

I tried and couldn't do it by myself.. If I had a lift I might have muddled through it... I ended up getting a buddy to help me.. It really takes 4 hands and at least a modicum of muscle and testosterone.

I've spoken to a dozen people who installed them and not one used the adjective.. "easy"...

and yes.. the bellypan has to be trimmed... There are lines on the inside for doing that.. That part is easy with a Dremel tool and steady hands.
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I tried and couldn't do it by myself.. If I had a lift I might have muddled through it... I ended up getting a buddy to help me.. It really takes 4 hands and at least a modicum of muscle and testosterone.

I've spoken to a dozen people who installed them and not one used the adjective.. "easy"...

and yes.. the bellypan has to be trimmed... There are lines on the inside for doing that.. That part is easy with a Dremel tool and steady hands.
Jerry:

For those very reasons I just used a tie down strap - don't like asking for help - don't like waiting for help - any don't like busting my knuckles trying to do something. I am sure doing it on the ground is a different story.
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Sounds like a trip to stealer. I may stick with rear wheel stand for now
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Re: center stand question

We're on the same page, Bruce...

and for what it's worth... The centerstand has been invaluable.. Worth every penny. I use mine every day..

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For those very reasons I just used a tie down strap - don't like asking for help - don't like waiting for help - any don't like busting my knuckles trying to do something. I am sure doing it on the ground is a different story.
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Re: center stand question

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Sounds like a trip to stealer. I may stick with rear wheel stand for now
Do yourself a favor and get the centerstand - as Jerry stated it is invaluable - and if you don't want to take a shot at it - then let the dealer do it. Like Jerry I use mine all the time - and just in case you are wondering - I've never had a clearance issue with it - now I may not get my bike leaned over as far as others but I've never heard of anyone having a problem.
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I owned an FZ1 and it had one and loved it every day. I will buy it and see what is involved.
If I can't (looks like ), will check with dealer. Going for service this tuesday and will ask.
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Re: center stand question

Agree with the others, best single upgrade you can do. Essential for properly monitoring your oil level and doing maintenance. I found trimming the belly pan easy with a dremmel tool, just follow the lines. Do a few practice cuts on the part that you will be trimming off to get your technique down. Clean up the edges with a file when done if you have some uneven or rough spots.

As far as the install of the side stand goes I just followed the instructions and it was easy. Like Bruce said I fiddled a bit getting the last bolt in because of the spring tension, however I was able to do it without a second pair of hands.

You will want a torque wrench.
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Do have torque wrench, Do have a nice dremel and good pair of hands and eyes.
I just need some encouragement and that will do it. Last post is making me believe in myself
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If you don't have a lift table to secure a ratchet strap to you can use another fixed object. I pulled my truck up behind my bike and attached the ratchet strap to the tow hitch and was able to get the last bolt in. Kinda redneck/MacGyver solution but it worked...
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I could use two support poles in garage. I guess it just needs to be secure and in center ?
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Re: center stand question

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I could use two support poles in garage. I guess it just needs to be secure and in center ?

You have to overcome the tension of the spring to get the left side mounting bolt holes to line up. The instructions recommend using a tie down strap to the paralever assy to pull the sidestand back so the holes line up. I found that unnecessary and was able to do it with my right hand while I used my left hand to feed the bolt through. took me a few tries to get the leverage angle correct. A strap to a pole in the garage should do the trick provided it is right behind the bike slightly offset to the left to clear the rear tire.
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Re: center stand question

I didn't find this too difficult to do for one person. With the bike on it's side stand, I deviated from the instructions and bolted left and right side of the center stand to the frame. Using someone else's suggestion on this forum, I stuck one end of the spring assembly in a vice and while pulling the spring over from side to side, inserted 1/4" flat washers along the way of the outer spring. Once I had that done, the spring was elongated enough to simple put it in place without any more stretching. Nice thing about the flat washers is that I could now insert a small screwdriver to pull out the washers.

The trimming of the belly pan took the longest. If I wasn't so anal about leaving more material than going for the factory cut marks, this install would have been done within an hour. I used the bandsaw to do the rough cut and used the Dremel to clean it up to give the cut a clean straight look.

I had posted up some pictures on this thread...

http://www.i-bmw.com/showpost.php?p=614342&postcount=23
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Nice work there. Where did you guys buy the stand ? I see amazon sells them as well.
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Nice work there. Where did you guys buy the stand ? I see amazon sells them as well.

I bought mine from the dealer when I purchased the bike. I believe it is a genuine BMW part.

You'll see the stand on the fiches of bike shops that carry OEM BMW parts.
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Wondering if it can be installed at home or I will have to ask dealer to install it.

does it require trimming belly pan ?

Hi Edison

I asume is for your K1300S. Same as K1200S

A complete How to in this thread. Thanks Kevin!

"Center Stand Install w Photos" http://www.i-bmw.com/showthread.php?t=7268
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Wonder why motech is half the price of BMW. Does anyone have an idea if there is big difference in quality ?
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Wonder why motech is half the price of BMW. Does anyone have an idea if there is big difference in quality ?
There has been post here check the search - some had no issues others did. The O.E.M. for sure no issues.
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OEM it is then
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I ordered mine from maxbmw in NH, I think they shipped it free and it included the instructions and was below MSRP IIRC. I ordered it over the phone to be sure what I was getting.

I used a ratchet strap along with some brain cells and beer and didn't scratch the stand much haha. I don't have a lift BTW. The hardest part is trimming the plastic belly pan, tricky to get at some of it with the dremel. All in all, not difficult if you are used to some wrench wrestling and have a ratchet strap and a little brain power.
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and it included the instructions and was below MSRP IIRC.
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If the Center Stand comes with the instruction manual, can you scan to take pics of it?, just to post here in the forum. I think would be interesting to have it. I tried to find and no way.

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If the Center Stand comes with the instruction manual, can you scan to take pics of it?, just to post here in the forum. I think would be interesting to have it. I tried to find and no way.

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Not sure what I did with it. At the link I posted the instructions list for 2.26, so no brainer to buy with kit if in fact not included. Either way I don't recall anything revealing in them except for to use a ratchet strap.
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Ordered one over Amazon. could not find it cheaper anywhere else.
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Done. Stand installed using strap. It was not difficult at all. Now on to cutting the belly pan.
Did you guys install one half first and cut it and then went to 2nd side or kept both halves together ?
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Done. Stand installed using strap. It was not difficult at all. Now on to cutting the belly pan.
Did you guys install one half first and cut it and then went to 2nd side or kept both halves together ?
Take both sides off and cut accordingly.
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Done. Stand installed using strap. It was not difficult at all. Now on to cutting the belly pan.
Did you guys ne half first and cut it and then went to 2nd side or kept both halves together ?

You may have already seen, someone on here did a nice job of cutting away les than recommended. You might consider that option.

But realistically, I don't even notice the stand or cutout when I look at the bike. Maybe different top those with a painted belly pan
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