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As Eddie used to say ‘The ground war starts in Jerez’ having looked at the gossip in today’s MCN the silly season has already started never mind the racing.
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Re: Jerez Moto GP Spoiler

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As Eddie used to say ‘The ground war starts in Jerez’ having looked at the gossip in today’s MCN the silly season has already started never mind the racing.

Chris how about a link to the article or articles to which you refer?
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Re: Jerez Moto GP Spoiler

If you go onto the Motorcycle News Website there is a limited amount not everything because they wouldn’t sell the newspaper on a Wednesday other wise,I could take some photos of the said pages but the world of print is under enough pressure from the net without me helping and I am sure there will be plenty of gossip on the Dorna feed this weekend.
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Re: Jerez Moto GP Spoiler

Fp1 and 2 in the books.

Imo, MM is just cruising around like in Austin. He'll have the field covered by a sec or more.

Zarco continues to show the factory boys the way... amazing.

Good for crutchlow and Danni.

I feel this will be a race for second again. But I know MM will keep it close for the show.
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Re: Jerez Moto GP Spoiler

FP1 & FP 2 are in the books, here are the times, the track has been resurfaced since last year's race. Team Yamaha didn't test at Jerez since the track was resurfaced.


FP1
Ducati’s Dovi’ Fastest In Opening MotoGP Practice at Jerez

Friday, May 4, 2018
Dry session, warm. Austrian hearts sent fluttering when Pol Espo’ was briefly fastest.

Pos. Rider Team Bike Time
1 Andrea Dovizioso Ducati Team Ducati GP18 1:39.268
2 Marc Marquez Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 1:39.275
3 Pol Espargaro Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 1:39.311
4 Danilo Petrucci Alma Pramac Racing Ducati 1:39.429
5 Jack Miller Alma Pramac Racing Ducati 1:39.483
6 Valentino Rossi Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 1:39.488
7 Johann Zarco Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 1:39.518
8 Cal Crutchlow LCR Honda Honda RC213V 1:39.548
9 Maverick Vinales Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 1:39.559
10 Scott Redding Octo Pramac Racing Ducati 1:39.585
11 Andrea Iannone Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 1:39.614
12 Mika Kallio Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 1:39.817
13 Aleix Espargaro Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia RS-GP 1:39.899
14 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 1:39.934
15 Jorge Lorenzo Ducati Team Ducati GP18 1:39.986
16 Takaaki Nakagami LCR Honda IDEMITSU Honda RC213V 1:40.007
17 Karel Abraham Ángel Nieto Team Ducati 1:40.032
18 Alvaro Bautista Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati 1:40.193
19 Tito Rabat Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 1:40.366
20 Bradley Smith Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 1:40.371
21 Alex Rins Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 1:40.537
22 Thomas Luthi Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 1:40.585
23 Franco Morbidelli Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 1:40.605
24 Xavier Simeon Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 1:41.471
25 Hafizh Syahrin Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 1:42.074

FP2

LCR Honda Rider Crutchlow Fastest In Second Practice at Jerez as MM93 Crasheswhile leading the time sheets, he was unhurt, again, and didn't have time to fit a soft tire for a flyer

Friday, May 4, 2018


Pos. Rider Team Bike Time

1 Cal Crutchlow LCR Honda Honda RC213V 1:38.614
2 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 1:38.642
3 Johann Zarco Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 1:38.705
4 Andrea Iannone Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 1:38.709
5 Marc Marquez Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 1:38.863
6 Andrea Dovizioso Ducati Team Ducati GP18 1:39.068
7 Jorge Lorenzo Ducati Team Ducati GP18 1:39.076
8 Jack Miller Alma Pramac Racing Ducati 1:39.102
9 Valentino Rossi Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 1:39.248
10 Maverick Vinales Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 1:39.514
11 Pol Espargaro Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 1:39.541
12 Karel Abraham Ángel Nieto Team Ducati 1:39.541
13 Alex Rins Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 1:39.575
14 Mika Kallio Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 1:39.661
15 Chaz Nakagami LCR Honda IDEMITSU Honda RC213V 1:39.694
16 Danilo Petrucci Alma Pramac Racing Ducati 1:39.723
17 Chaz Rabat Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 1:39.888
18 Chaz Smith Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 1:39.948
19 Franco Morbidelli Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 1:39.951
20 Chaz Bautista Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati 1:39.969
21 Chaz Espargaro Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia RS-GP 1:40.003
22 Chaz Luthi Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 1:40.241
23 Chaz Syahrin Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 1:40.488
24 Chaz Redding Octo Pramac Racing Ducati 1:40.536
25 Chaz Simeon Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 1:40.663
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Re: Jerez Moto GP Spoiler

The top 5 improved their own times. What happened to the others???
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Re: Jerez Moto GP Spoiler

Sure a lot of Chaz’s in motogp these days...
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Re: Jerez Moto GP Spoiler

And the grid positions after final qualifying are:

Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 37.653s
Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 37.912s +0.259s
Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1) 1m 37.956s +0.303s
Jorge Lorenzo ESP Ducati Team (GP18) 1m 37.969s +0.316s
Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 37.977s +0.324s
Alex Rins ESP Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 37.984s +0.331s
Andrea Iannone ITA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 37.987s +0.334s
Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (GP18) 1m 38.029s +0.376
Danilo Petrucci ITA Pramac Ducati (GP18) 1m 38.086s +0.433s
Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1m 38.267s +0.614s
Maverick Viñales ESP Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1m 38.281s +0.628s
Jack Miller AUS Pramac Ducati (GP17) 1m 38.522s +0.869s


Grid positions determined by Q1 results:

Aleix Espargaro ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 38.389s
Takaaki Nakagami JPN LCR Honda (RC213V)* 1m 38.481s
Franco Morbidelli ITA EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 38.544s
Pol Espargaro ESP Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 1m 38.598s
Tito Rabat ESP Reale Avintia (GP17) 1m 38.610s
Thomas Luthi SWI EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 38.752s
Mika Kallio FIN Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 1m 38.759s
Alvaro Bautista ESP Angel Nieto Team (GP17) 1m 38.838s
Bradley Smith GBR Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 1m 38.961s
Hafizh Syahrin MAL Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 39.135s
Karel Abraham CZE Angel Nieto Team (GP16) 1m 39.146s
Xavier Simeon ESP Reale Avintia (GP16)* 1m 39.708s
Scott Redding GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 39.918s
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Get yourself a videopass, well worth it. You can watch it anywhere with phone or PC.

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Don't waste your money on Bein get Videopass. I watch all the practices and qualifying plus the race for all the classes.

No commercials really great.

If you want to watch it on your TV get Chromecast and a USB adapter like a Linksys AC1200 for casting I think I bought both for about $100.00
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pos 2-9 separated by 0.1sec! Wow.
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Well another one in the books a couple of pics of a wild crash.

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What a complete cluster fuck between Lorenzo, Pedrosa and Dovi. Although I'm not sure if anyone was really "at fault". Was Lorenzo's move back towards the inside just a racing incident or a move that should be criticized.

The Spanish press raises an interesting question. They say that race control won't usually penalise racers in crash situations like this unless one of the affected parties brings the case to them for review. The question is, shouldn't race control take action on its own when it sees a clear violation of rules/etiquette rather than putting all of the weight (and stigma) on any given racer to "rat on his fellow racers". Shouldn't race control know its own rules and act accordingly?

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What a complete cluser fuck. Although I'm not sure if anyone was really "at fault". Was Lorenzo's move back towards the inside just a racing incident or a move that should be criticized.
I watched it a bunch of times and I think it was just a racing thing. If you watch it again when Lorenzo repasses Dovi and cuts back in - he didn't see Pedrosa until the last second which was too late.

I feel bad for Pedrosa he is running good and gets taken out again.
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Just racing as uncomplicated as that.

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Pedrosa took a hell of a beating in that wreck. I'm not sure any one person was at fault. I guess you could pin it on Lorenzo if you had to, but I'm not sure if that would be fair.
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Just racing as uncomplicated as that.

As you can imagine Bruce a weekend of highs and lows
For sure Cal must not be exactly happy? He has been fantastic as a well as Zarco.
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No commercials really great.

If you want to watch it on your TV get Chromecast and a USB adapter like a Linksys AC1200 for casting I think I bought both for about $100.00

Not sure if any of this works in Canada...

Many sites are verboten across the border.

I'd have to look into it...
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Not sure if any of this works in Canada...

Many sites are verboten across the border.

I'd have to look into it...

I don't see why not. I've used mine (which I actually subscribed to while in the US, it's cheaper than if you subscribe in Europe) and have watched races on it while traveling (in about ten different countries over the past few years). It is not country specific for watching, once you have a pass you just sign in with an internet connection wherever you are and watch away.

I guess there may be some places (e.g. China) where censors have a field day banning whatever they don't like, but something tells me Canada ain't one of those places.
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Not sure if any of this works in Canada...

Many sites are verboten across the border.

I'd have to look into it...
Should be available in Canada and if you don't have to watch on TV you are all set once you sign up.

Also has at least the past 20 years available.
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Awesome performance from MM. Did you see that slide in the gravel kicked onto the track from Luthi's crash? How does he do it?

The crash was unfortunate. Pedrosa was the only one on the racing line AND on the inside. But racing is racing...

Honestly, everyone is so fast this year. Looking at the race analysis pdf's from motogp.com, Rossi was faster this year than last by 1-2sec per lap(!) early on and then 3+ sec toward the end, but the competition has just taken that extra step.
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Lemans should be a good track for yamaha...

Vinales, Zarco and Rossi took turns leading practically the whole race last year. It was an exciting end of the race...

Rossi makes a hard hard pass on vinales through the Dunlop chicane for the lead with 4 laps to go, Vinales making a small error running off track trying to fight back. Looked like Rossi was going to win and the crowd was going wild! But a rare unforced error by rossi let Vinales through! then Rossi bins it trying to make up ground on the last lap... unbelievable last 4-5 laps!
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Awesome performance from MM. Did you see that slide in the gravel kicked onto the track from Luthi's crash? How does he do it?

The crash was unfortunate. Pedrosa was the only one on the racing line AND on the inside. But racing is racing...

Honestly, everyone is so fast this year. Looking at the race analysis pdf's from motogp.com, Rossi was faster this year than last by 1-2sec per lap(!) early on and then 3+ sec toward the end, but the competition has just taken that extra step.
In real time it looked scary in slo-mo it looked like another MM how'd he save that?
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OK, here's my suggestion to make MotoGP more fun to watch. Just hand Marquez the championship now, and send him home for a remaining season long vacation. It's pretty clear to me that no one is in the same league as he is, and watching him make his way through the field like a knife (with elbows) through warm butter and then running away and humiliating the rest of the field, is to me, well, boring.

The balance of the competition for the remaining two spots on the podium is entertaining, so with MM at home cherishing his championship, from my perspective, the racing would be more fun to watch.

As for the Lorenzo Dovi Pedrosa crash - I can't find fault, I don't think that Lorenzo intentionally cut down the track, I think his path through the corner after contact with Dovi was beyond his control at the moment, he was going wherever the bike was taking him.
Scary looking crash for Pedrosa though,
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And Zarco puts in the fastest post race test time today...

Yamaha is all f'ed up.
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