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Old 09-30-2014, 08:29 PM
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Re: New K1300S replacement is in development!

So, 3 new models announced at Intermot:

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...ow-in-germany/

None of them a new K bike. This makes me sad. I don't really like either of the new R bikes.
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Re: New K1300S replacement is in development!

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So, 3 new models announced at Intermot:

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...ow-in-germany/

None of them a new K bike. This makes me sad. I don't really like either of the new R bikes.

My wish has been granted. There may be a new R1200RS in the garage next year. And i'm glad they have reverted back to a fork set up.
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No K but it is interesting what they're putting on the next generation boxer series... & it looks like a lot of updated options that were available on the K13 several years ago... "Dynamic" ESA, quickshifter, ASC with modes or "Pro" DTC with more modes. The keyless ignition is new but I'm not sure I'd want it & I'm not sure about reverting back to forks.

Unfortunately they've gone for the huge hard case option instead of the nice variable sports boxes the K13/F800R/ST so I'd probably opt for a Givi set-up.

It'll be interesting to see the price. I'd be tempted... if I hadn't already been spoilt by owning a K.
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Re: New K1300S replacement is in development!

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So, 3 new models announced at Intermot:

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...ow-in-germany/

None of them a new K bike. This makes me sad. I don't really like either of the new R bikes.

It is quite possible that they are holding back other new models for the EICMA show in Milan in early November.
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It is quite possible that they are holding back other new models for the EICMA show in Milan in early November.

They are holding something back for sure because there's no XR yet.
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No K but it is interesting what they're putting on the next generation boxer series... & it looks like a lot of updated options that were available on the K13 several years ago... "Dynamic" ESA, quickshifter, ASC with modes or "Pro" DTC with more modes. The keyless ignition is new but I'm not sure I'd want it & I'm not sure about reverting back to forks.

Unfortunately they've gone for the huge hard case option instead of the nice variable sports boxes the K13/F800R/ST so I'd probably opt for a Givi set-up.

It'll be interesting to see the price. I'd be tempted... if I hadn't already been spoilt by owning a K.
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Maybe it makes sense that there's no new K bike this year because they've already announced the 2015 K1300S Motorsport edition. They aren't likely to have a new K bike alongside that model are they? Would that mean any new K bike would be announced next year for 2016?
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Maybe it makes sense that there's no new K bike this year because they've already announced the 2015 K1300S Motorsport edition. They aren't likely to have a new K bike alongside that model are they? Would that mean any new K bike would be announced next year for 2016?

That or I think the K13S (K1XXXS) is dead if the new R12RS sells well (which I think it will).
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That or I think the K13S (K1XXXS) is dead if the new R12RS sells well (which I think it will).
Hmmm... I can see where you're coming from... there hasn't really been the space in their range for this many Sports Tourers or Roadsters in the past... the F range takes care of the budget side, S1000 has formed the basis of the high powered end & these new R's look like a very practical option for the middle ground (& all 3 platforms use conventional front suspension). The K13 platform could be on it's way out. We shall see... glad I got one now though.
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Hmmm... I can see where you're coming from... there hasn't really been the space in their range for this many Sports Tourers or Roadsters in the past... the F range takes care of the budget side, S1000 has formed the basis of the high powered end & these new R's look like a very practical option for the middle ground (& all 3 platforms use conventional front suspension). The K13 platform could be on it's way out. We shall see... glad I got one now though.

I'm the same 'I've got one' I don't really need another within seconds of riding mine I realised steering/suspension/fueling needed sorting and I did it got some unsprung weight off and it's happy days,I'm sure in some form or other there still is a market for a K but it's not a very big one.

BM have steamroller the adventure market one bike has made a dent in it and that's the Multistrada and BM will counter that with the XR and with the new RS that's the market,when we went to Le-Mans the other week a friend went to Germany on his 1400 Kawasaki and as he said unless your on the motorway everywhere else is 50/70/90 KPH.
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I will be checking out the R1200RS at the international bike show in November (NEC Birmingham) and booking an early test ride and will buy it if its as good as it looks .
Remindes me of my old Boxer Cup (this is me on it at Donnington) but with a lot more power, modern suspension and electronics it should be a great bike .
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Like the looks of the R1200RS. Had an R1100S and loved it. Would still have it if not for a stupid deer.

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It seems like BMW builds a number of bikes off the same basic engine platform. There are several based on the boxer twin 1200, several based on the 1000 inline 4, the big 1600, and the GS 800, 650. Is there any sense in a "sportier" bike based on the 1600? Would a K1600S make any sense at all? The K1300R is the same base as the K1300S, and it's from 2009 too. So would they abandon both models?

I also note that Triumph discontinued the Sprint in favor of the Trophy (which also made me sad).
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why bother. Lets play wait game
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Like the looks of the R1200RS. Had an R1100S and loved it. Would still have it if not for a stupid deer.


Still got mine sorry ours!! NW200 this year.BUT it's a 'as well as' not 'instead of' if you have been used to the big HP of K you'll not be happy with a boxer as your only bike but they do have their uses that's for sure.
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Had a chat on BMW stand at Intermot today. The unspoken words are that the current K1300S might well be the last one. The Motorsport deco being the last evolution. The rationale is that they need to figure out if there will be a demand for a sport tourer based on the S1000 engine or if htey find enough demand to maintain the K1300 engine, which to their standards is old now. The question of the K1600 as the base for a sport tourer is also on the lips, but they tend to admit that the S1000 base is the way to go. In conclusion, he didn't formally saut that the K1300 is doing its last show, but what is obvious is that to maintain the momentum and the competitive edge, either some drastic evolution of the K1300 is needed or a brand new bike on th S1000.

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Glad I have my K1300S.



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I'd like:
Upgraded electronics
Wilbers or Ohlins shocks as an option
I'd trade a little HP from the top for more torque below 4K

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Lighter wheels
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Glad I have my K1300S.

Same here.

If BMW thinks that a S1000-based chain-drive sport-tourer is going to replace the "K" shaft-drive sport-tourers they have been making for over 30 years, I think they have misread the marketplace. Diehard BMW fans will buy an R1200RS, if they can accept the lower power (I also have an R1100RS, so I'm in that camp), and other folks have plenty of other non-BMW options if they want a big-bore sport-tourer that can be set up with hard panniers, GPS, and the other farkles needed/desired for travel by motorcycle. What BMW should do is update the electronics and suspension, refine the engine and clutch, and then start really marketing the Big K.

But, I already have mine.
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I would be fine with an s1000rr based sport tourer except for the chain. I hate chains....especially on my DD, which my k1300s is.
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I would be changing brand if I have to go back to sr1000 based . might look at VFR / or even FJR
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This headline in todays MCN just about sums up current trends.


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That "thing" must be an excercise in how ugly they can make a bike.
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It looks fine to me, but is really engine from S1000 for a bike like this?
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The question is mostly about the engine of the K12/13 being at the end of its lifespan or not. Although my very biaised opinion telling me that it's not the end of the road.
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The question is mostly about the engine of the K12/13 being at the end of its lifespan or not. Although my very biaised opinion telling me that it's not the end of the road.

I think yes, no more production for our K 1300 engines. but not the end of the rest of the bike. I hope will be a new bike like our KS or KR with a new engine platform.

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i really don't get what is sooo bad about the current 1300 engine (good torque/power/MPG) ... put a new slipper-clutch and a better transmission on it ... keep cardan and duo-lever ... put a new set of ride-by-wire electronics + software on it ... finished
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And these bikes are big enough for XL guys I saw S1000R and it is small bike just like japanese. I hope BMW will not end this line.
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i really don't get what is sooo bad about the current 1300 engine (good torque/power/MPG) ... put a new slipper-clutch and a better transmission on it ... keep cardan and duo-lever ... put a new set of ride-by-wire electronics + software on it ... finished


I actually really like the 1300 engine overall, but would love about 20% more power.
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Had a chat on BMW stand at Intermot today. The unspoken words are that the current K1300S might well be the last one. The Motorsport deco being the last evolution. The rationale is that they need to figure out if there will be a demand for a sport tourer based on the S1000 engine or if htey find enough demand to maintain the K1300 engine, which to their standards is old now. The question of the K1600 as the base for a sport tourer is also on the lips, but they tend to admit that the S1000 base is the way to go. In conclusion, he didn't formally saut that the K1300 is doing its last show, but what is obvious is that to maintain the momentum and the competitive edge, either some drastic evolution of the K1300 is needed or a brand new bike on th S1000.


They may be in a quandry over shaft drive. That is a really nice feature for this class of bike. An S1000 platform would certainly answer a plethora of other questions.
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I actually really like the 1300 engine overall, but would love about 20% more power.

20% more.......

...... So 152.4kw or 210HP and 168Nm of torque would be fun...

I would need brown cords to ride that.... Or a nappy.....

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20% more.......

...... So 152.4kw or 210HP and 168Nm of torque would be fun...

I would need brown cords to ride that.... Or a nappy.....

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I remember when folks thought 100 hp would be the end of it. There is so much power now that software has to control it or we would all die.
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You haven't been leading us up the garden path have you

Certainly not intentionally, and I was told this in good faith. Apparently the big cheeses at BMW are now keeping Shtum on the subject. If there is to be a replacement then expect to see "spy" shots being leaked around next spring.
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Just got this from BMW Customer Service in Munich. It was about two restions, one regarding an upgrade model of the K1300S and the other one about missing features on the S1000R.

Although this is commercial talk not revealing anything that they don't want to get out, we can see that the K1300S is not really surfing on its momentum. One can always wish, then wait and see...

For the S1000R, the "secrecy" might cover actual improvements... :-)

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Following we will answer your questions:
At the moment it is not planned to launch a technical revised version of BMW K 1300 S, including such features as riding modes, LED headlight and so on.
Because BMW S 1000 R is derived from BMW S 1000 RR features like RDC and an external temperature indicator are not available at this bike. For this reason it is not possible to retrofit these items too.
Of course we do always think about how to improve and to develop BMW S 1000 R. But unfortunately it is not possible to give you any information on features we will launch in the future because of secrecy of new products. Thank you for your understanding in this matter.
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I'd put my money on BM doing what Suzuki has with the Busa and Kawasaki with the 1400 at some time you may get a body revamp and that'll be all their not great sellers I was reading the other there's only 250 1300r's in the UK that's not where BMW are at selling so few units.
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Looks like perfect timing for me when the next generation K-S comes out. In a year or so I'll be in the market for one of your fine K1300S (I want it to park next to my '14 GSA).

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20% more.......

...... So 152.4kw or 210HP and 168Nm of torque would be fun...

I would need brown cords to ride that.... Or a nappy.....

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How I know is immaterial but suffice it to say that I have it on reasonably good authority that the K1300S replacement is in development at the moment. .

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Gut feelings tell me... K1600S...
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Gut feelings tell me... K1600S...

That would be my bet too. Hopefully, BMW will build a new sport-touring motorcycle around the I-6 engine, and not try to "sportify" the current K1600GT.
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I'd put my money on BM doing what Suzuki has with the Busa and Kawasaki with the 1400 at some time you may get a body revamp and that'll be all their not great sellers I was reading the other there's only 250 1300r's in the UK that's not where BMW are at selling so few units.

That actually makes good sense to me. They've done it already with the S1000RX, or whatever they call it.
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Chris, you should check out howmanyleft.co.uk - keeps me entertained for a few minutes.

From the website the current scores on the doors for these bikes registered in the UK with the DVLA are:

K1300R 361
K1300S 1600

And for comparison:

K1600 (all) 1401

And for laughs:

BMW HP4 374
Lamborghini Gallardo (all) 388
Ferrari F12 190


So there are less K1300R bikes registered in the country than HP4s . Just as well I have both . Just saving for the F12 .
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Looks like perfect timing for me when the next generation K-S comes out. In a year or so I'll be in the market for one of your fine K1300S (I want it to park next to my '14 GSA).

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Interesting Mike - I'm sort of intrigued by the upcoming S1000XR. If I decide to make a change, I'll keep you in mind - send me a PM with some contact info - ya never know!
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Would LOVE to see a K1600 S, w/ detachable bags in a Matt finish that would hide boot scuffs, w/ decent fairing/ windshield, Cruise, Heated Seat, Grips, the works ! etc.

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Swapped our Rt1200 twin cam last year for a 1600 GTL, but didn't like the GTL. It is too heavy, broke down in Belgium due to the starter switch packing up in the 39 degree heat, and its not good for filtering. The weather protection wasn't as good as the RT 1200 either. So I bit the bullet and swapped the GTL for a K1300s Motorsport basically because it was so easy to fall in love with its looks. But it's just proven to me how heavy those tourers are and not massively massively more comfy than the Motorsport either. In fact the GTL made the back of my knees ache on long journeys. The 1300 could benefit from slightly better screen height and l am waiting to find out if the slightly cramped knee position on the 1300 are going to improve but it's still better for me than he GTL. I retained my Wunderlich dark Perspex hand guards from the GTL and they fit straight too the 1300 with super looks and the benefit of saving my gloves from being soaked. I originally had to fit them on the GTL because my gloves got soaked. I have fitted a Givi 47 litre top box and a set of Givi 41 litre panniers for touring Europe with 'the Boss' this year. (That's the Missus of course) also mounted an Autocom in the right side side panel and put a Tribo seat cover on he back to stop her moving about inadvertently under braking and powering away. We love this bike and the now standard Akropovic box and special wheels and HP bits and bobs just make it a right little Beaut. BMW ... please don't drop this gorgeous bike from the lineup. It's more comfortable than the SS 1000 and its a great deal easier to handle than a K1600 even the GT version. And the Akropovic gives it a magnificent sound track too. The Motorsport is the best bike we've owned, no doubt about it.
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Would you please post a picture of the K1300S with the K1600 GTL Dark Perspex Hand Guards?

If they look good and fit straight on the bike as you say, I'll be ordering a pair pronto!

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Try this web address at Nippy Normans otherwise you should try the Wunderlich website (Denis where you live and what's cheapest for postage) but l will post a photo on here at the weekend... the tinted perspex are the less expensive of the two types but these match my tinted screen :-
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Sorry about the predictive text it meant say 'depends' not 'denis'
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Thanks - I checked the Wunderlich site right after I first posted. They look pretty good (a little darker tint would look even better, IMHO), but seeing them on your K1300S will help immensely. Could you possibly take a few shots, say from the front, front 3/4, side and the view from sitting on the bike???

Pretty please!!

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See my thread here and discussion on the K1600S w/ Motorad folks attending the DC Bike Show:

http://www.i-bmw.com/showthread.php?t=52037

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I agree, please BMW lets have an updated KS.
I love my K1200S and have fixed most of the little gripes, except for the surging at low revs.
I would really love the digital dash that you can customise like on the Ducati to show the infor that you want to see. I love my HP pegs so please make them standard.
A Slipper Clutch would be really nice and if we are really talking Active Suspension (DDC) like the HP4 Comp. Lets call it ESA III, That would be a REAL asset on a bike that can travel over lots of different qualities of road surfaces with varying loads.
The looks are great especially the new MotorSport edition.
Yes lighter wheels do make a great deal of difference to the handling, but you also have to be a lot more careful of what you roll over so you don't end up with a buggered rim.
BM keep the KS bikes coming. You have a lot of clients that want them.
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Has any one on this site tried fitting a cruise control from GT1300 to a 1300S by any chance???
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Thanks for the pic, but it's really hard to see them from that angle. If you have any more shots, it would really be helpful.

Did they bolt right on without ANY modifications? if so, I might order a pair and gently install them, returning the set if I feel they look "funky".
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Has any one on this site tried fitting a cruise control from GT1300 to a 1300S by any chance???

Not sure mate, but one of our vendors here at iBMW sell a cruise control that will fit the k1300S. Great people to deal with too.
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Yes lighter wheels do make a great deal of difference to the handling, but you also have to be a lot more careful of what you roll over so you don't end up with a buggered rim.

Nope not true that's a problem you only have with rubbish wheels that BM have always fitted jeez they even had a wheel recall in the early eighties but regardless a Dymag or BST will take far more punishment than a stocker.
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