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Old 01-18-2015, 07:08 AM
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Re: New K1300S replacement is in development!

I was intrigued by the Cruise as well - one commenter on the vendor's site mentioned it cost around $222 (?). Then I saw the price

$1100 is A LOT of dough for the functionality. I have the Kaoko control ($110?), which I rarely used on a recent 3000 mile tour of the SouthWest.

I guess if I had a dedicated touring bike I would use the cruise more, but I found I preferred always having my hand "on the stick" with the K1300S - even on the boring slab sections. That's just me though, to each his own.
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How about some looks a nice light in front of the bike less weight cruise control
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Bringing this topic back on track - Mr. Welshman, do you have any more info on the K1300S replacement ? Perhaps a K1600S ?

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Bringing this topic back on track - Mr. Welshman, do you have any more info on the K1300S replacement ? Perhaps a K1600S ?

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I am always mystified by the desire for a bigger heavier version of the k13s, at that point it seems to me you might as well buy a fjr or concourse or rt. It wouldn't be an attractive outcome IMHO, but different strokes I suppose.

At that point I'd be looking elsewhere and disappointedly so.
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Not sure what it means, but BMW Motorrad has discontinued selling K13s's in Japan.
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I am afraid they may completely drop K13 models. They may consider S1000RR and S1000R are good enough replacements.
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I am afraid they may completely drop K13 models. They may consider S1000RR and S1000R are good enough replacements.

IMHO; that would indicate that BMW Motorrad is now headed by a bunch of severely retarded pellicks.
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It seems even BMW started thinking in very commercial way (i.e. front traction at series 2). Profit is important, of course, but they should think about us also (we are probably minority). But let's hope I am wrong
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Re: New K1300S replacement is in development!

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IMHO; that would indicate that BMW Motorrad is now headed by a bunch of severely retarded pellicks.

You mean someone younger than 40?

I hate to think BMW would leave this section of sport touring. The K1600 will be too heavy in any form for me, unless tuned for 200 HP and weighs 550 lbs full of liquids.
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I am always mystified by the desire for a bigger heavier version of the k13s, at that point it seems to me you might as well buy a fjr or concourse or rt. It wouldn't be an attractive outcome IMHO, but different strokes I suppose.

At that point I'd be looking elsewhere and disappointedly so.

I don't know why we always assume a K1600s will be bigger and heavier then the K1300s.
While the is motor is wider, 2.6", overall width and cornering clearance could probably be kept the same. Keeping the wheelbase and overall length the same shouldn't be a problem either. Now weight is where I believe most of us have our biggest concern. BMW's website list the dry weight at 650 pounds for the K16GT and 502 pounds for the K1300s, a 148 pound difference! But let's look closer at the standard features the K16GT has that add weight, luggage, Xenon headlight with dynamic leveling, heated seats, power adjustable windshield, center stand, luggage rack. I'm sure if you look at a K16GT you will find lots of other little details it has and the K13S doesn't that could be deleted to save weight and that's not even getting into the fact it wasn't designed to be a hyper-tourer like the K13S. The Councours 14 with an inline four weights 690 pounds wet compare to 703 wet for the K16GT, 13 pounds lighter and even that's not a fair comparison seeing that includes an extra 1.2 gallons of fuel in the K16GT. My point is if BMW can make the K16GT with 1.2 gallons more fuel and lots more standard features only weight 13 pounds more than the Concours 14 they can make a K1600S that out accelerates, out brakes and handles better than the current K1300S. The real question is do they want to make that bike?
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Think K1600 engine in a K1300 adapted frame, might work. It's the K1600 that makes the current GT and GTL feeling bulky compared to the K1300.
Also can't dismiss that there is a nice leap forward between the K1300 electronics and the K1600.
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So nothing like this then...



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What about a smooth gearbox like the automatic one on the VFR from Honda.
I think the K1300s would be the ideal platform cuz I can't believe BMW isn't at least studying the potential of the dual clutch system.

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So nothing like this then...




Beautiful, but as I've commented before, the wheelbase is way too long (or at least so it seems in the pic) - not as much fun in the twisties.
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What about adapting the 1000rr engine into the 1300 frame. Horsepower, weight, wheelbase all good. But I still like that concept 1600............
Like I was telling the guys today: glad I'm almost 65 and riding a K1300S. If I was, say 35-40, I'd be really depressed if I had to look forward to 25-30 years of riding with no new 1300. Guess I'd be riding my 2009 K1300S with 1,385,000 miles on it to the 2041 national rally.............
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I am always mystified by the desire for a bigger heavier version of the k13s, at that point it seems to me you might as well buy a fjr or concourse or rt. It wouldn't be an attractive outcome IMHO, but different strokes I suppose.

At that point I'd be looking elsewhere and disappointedly so.

Agree. 1600 motor 6cyc 6 coils etc = more maintenance and costs.

I'm sure there is room for improvement in the 1300 motor. Bigger is not always better.
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again...

BMW will not vacate the sport touring segment, leaving the space to the Japanese manufacturers. No way. It would suggest they can't compete.

The primary R&D has already been done on the K1300S/R. Modifying the bike to incorporate EXISTING electronics, would extend and update the platform for another 5 years, WITHOUT any further significant investment, therefore, making the bike even more profitable than it has been.

The BMW S platform is too small for many riders above 6'2". The K16 platform is too heavy for some riders.

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Beautiful, but as I've commented before, the wheelbase is way too long (or at least so it seems in the pic) - not as much fun in the twisties.

Well... the concept looks to contain the component base of the K1600 line.... the K1600 is around 100mm (4") longer than the 13... which doesn't sound much but that's a full 242mm (10"ish) longer than an S1000!!! So the existing K13 is closer to the wheelbase of a K16 than an S1000... but in the wrong direction of course.

In the concept they've tried to accentuate it's length (ooer ) by sticking a tiny subframe with a single seat on it.

I think a sports touring platform specifically developed for the K16 could be made shorter but it wasn't an issue when the designed the GT (it's shorter than a Goldwing). Whether they have the inclination to design it is another matter.
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I thinks BMW's market strategy is clear after the 2014 Eicma show. The release of the 1000XR and 1200RS looks to point to the future.

I remember many of the same great arguments when I had a 1300GT which was a fantastic tourer/sportsbike. The rumors said the 1300GT was going to be replaced by the 1600GT and it happened. The swansong in 2010 was the final 1300GT edition in grey with blue lettering. They sold the 1300GT until there was no stock left and many people bought them because it was such a great bike.

The 1300S also has a cult following, but I think the new motorsport colours is the last years production. This platform is great but is old and does not have the conveniences and safe traction modes which all the new bikes have.

My money is on a K1000S in the same ergonomics as the K1300S but will all the new technology and fantastic and better power to weight ratio than the 1300S. Now that will be a kicker. The K1200RS and K1600GT/GTL will fill in the rest of the market for people that does not want a K1000S. We already have a S1000RR, S1000R and S1000XR. There is only one possibility left.

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While I love my KS, I strongly suspect I would have bought the new RS instead if it came out 2 years ago, mostly due to its similar size but better touring features.

While I love the KS' power, I must admit it is kinda nuts and I don't NEED that much power.

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My two cents:
In a recent article in Dutch magazine they compared the K100S with the K1300S. One of those blah blah stories that they run during the slow, no-news wintermonths. However, it contained a statement, made by BMW, that the K1300 platform will see no further development.
The author is a journalist who works for Motorrad, the German bike magazine that is usually very well informed. So i guess we have to hang on to what we got and start buying critical spare parts in a couple of years.
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Re: New K1300S replacement is in development!

I don't know what BMW is going to do or not do in regard to the K1300's. I could argue the point they have the K1300 platform already - makes sense to upgrade electronics, mechanical components, bring the K1300's up to todays standards.

I also can argue they have the K1600 platform and could with minimal development build a K1600S. May or may not be over weight may handle well?

And then there is the S1000 platform. Same story they could with little effort build an S1000S. They could do a little work on the engine to better align the torque curve and HP curve for sport touring. The power these liter engines are making they could afford to drop a few ponies and add more torque.

I think they will go with either the K1600 platform or the S1000 platform. Reason being both are looking like they are going to be around for the unforeseeable future why keep the K1300 platform?

I hope I'm wrong and they go with the K1300 4 cylinder - they don't need to punch the motor up anymore(look into oil consumption) - just put the best ECU they have in it - all the latest electronics - beef the clutch and tranny up. Keep the weight the same - keep the wheel base the same - keep the current suspension(tweak it a little) and by goodness they may just have built a modern day BMW that we all think BMW's should be - like what they were years ago.
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Re: New K1300S replacement is in development!

Today when I was at Max's BMW doing my deal on my RR I mentioned to my sales guy how it really appears the end has come for the K1300's. I mentioned the article in a Dutch magazine where a BMW official stated there would not be any further development of the K1300.

My guy gave a look and smile and said really? I asked did he know something - he didn't say he did or did not - he just smiled - you know one of those smiles that says - you don't know what you are talking about. So I don't know if he knows something or not but he sure found the info I gave him very humorous. Well I hope he does know something good for the K1300's.
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I think the k1300s is done. They have the s1000rr and s1000r as alternatives. Yes k13s electronics could be upgrade, but what do you really get with lean sensors etc, the bike is more sports touring and most k13s's already have esa and abs. Upgraded electronics won't do much for most of the k13 s riders. I think the bike is on the way out. Of course I love mine, but it's not my track bike.
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I don't get how people can compare the k to a liter bike... whole different ballgame. I think the fact that so many people here own both proves the point. I doubt those guys consider the k and the r fungible. Just my 2 cents...
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Have to agree. Totally different. Would love both but would go the K1300S as I think the RR is a bit beyond me these days.
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I think the k1300s is done. They have the s1000rr and s1000r as alternatives. Yes k13s electronics could be upgrade, but what do you really get with lean sensors etc, the bike is more sports touring and most k13s's already have esa and abs. Upgraded electronics won't do much for most of the k13 s riders. I think the bike is on the way out. Of course I love mine, but it's not my track bike.
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I was thinking more in line with electronic cruise control - ride by wire - a little better ECU. Again a few upgrades and it would be world class in my opinion.

I sadly agree with you I think the K1300's have just about run their last ride.
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I think that's why HD is so popular.

Aside from that, I like the concept as depicted in the photos and have a feeling that the wheelbase may be a bit exaggerated, perhaps a production model wouldn't be so long.
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How true this is I have no idea but my dealer reckons K1300S production ends in summer 2015. He said he had no build slots after then, very few left up until then.
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What would be interesting to me is the age demographics for the K1200/1300. That would tell the story where this bike is going. I bought mine when I was 55, rode it 8 years and 57,000 miles until it became uncomfortable, and no longer fit my riding style. It was a lot of fun, no doubt, but years of excess on mountain roads taught me the risk exposure. And I don't need it to have fun anymore. Comfort combined with decent performance moved me away from it.
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What would be interesting to me is the age demographics for the K1200/1300. That would tell the story where this bike is going. I bought mine when I was 55, rode it 8 years and 57,000 miles until it became uncomfortable, and no longer fit my riding style. It was a lot of fun, no doubt, but years of excess on mountain roads taught me the risk exposure. And I don't need it to have fun anymore. Comfort combined with decent performance moved me away from it.
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I don't know the average age of K1200/K1300 bike riders. Yesterday I did ask that exact question to my dealer in regard to RR purchasers. I thought he was going to tell me something like mid 30's. He said the age group they sell RR's to is upper 40's to mid 50's. Of course there are several at a younger age and several at an older age.

Now I'm going to say my dealer has an accurate statistic - I will go out on a limb here and say at the very least he is either number 1 or number 2 for RR sales in the U.S.

I understand you selling the bike because it became uncomfortable to ride - you hope to curb your desire to ride fast by riding a different style bike - I get all that.

What is really sad to read - "And I don't need it to have fun anymore." When that day comes for me and I hope it never does - I will be looking for something to replace motorcycles real quick.
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Hmmm I was sleepy I guess when I wrote that. I still have lots of fun, just not so much of the speedy risky twisty kind.
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Hmmm I was sleepy I guess when I wrote that. I still have lots of fun, just not so much of the speedy risky twisty kind.
Now that I kind of understand(I still need a little fast paced riding). Heck I could have a boat load of fun riding a Honda Z50 Mini Trail.
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If it ain't shaft drive I'm not really that interested.

And yes I have tried and owned them all.
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Agreed! That's one of the main reasons I chose the bike in the first place.
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My dealer told me the same thing. Neither the S1000R nor S1000XR move me like my K1200R Sport.

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The 1200R Sport, don't see too many of those - It IS a nice looking bike. Still think BMW ought to offer the 1300S or maybe a 1600S variant.
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I went to the dealer today to order a replacement for my old K1200S. I agree the 1300S may be the last of the breed. Unfortunately I failed to make a decision.
I was told there is no "sport bike" package for the 2015 K1300S. You cannot order the forged rims unless you get the mega $$ package. There is no way to get rid of ESA, traction control and other weight adding "features" on the motorad package.
The rims are about $3K USD so only slighty cheaper than the package.
I hate the traction control and ESA is not worth its weight.

I fear BMW will stick with the 6 cylinder and take the "sport" down a few notches in their next "sport touring" offer.
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I went to the dealer today to order a replacement for my old K1200S. I agree the 1300S may be the last of the breed. Unfortunately I failed to make a decision.
I was told there is no "sport bike" package for the 2015 K1300S. You cannot order the forged rims unless you get the mega $$ package. There is no way to get rid of ESA, traction control and other weight adding "features" on the motorad package.
The rims are about $3K USD so only slighty cheaper than the package.
I hate the traction control and ESA is not worth its weight.

I fear BMW will stick with the 6 cylinder and take the "sport" down a few notches in their next "sport touring" offer.

I dunno lets look at the stats.

BMW Bikes are expensive so not all young riders can afford them. Population is getting older so who could ride a S1000RR. Also S1000RR has been out a while now so how many have they sold worldwide compared to K1300S etc. K1600 is just too big. As I said before I'd prefer the K1300 and BMW will go where the money is.
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I went to the dealer today to order a replacement for my old K1200S. I agree the 1300S may be the last of the breed. Unfortunately I failed to make a decision.
I was told there is no "sport bike" package for the 2015 K1300S. You cannot order the forged rims unless you get the mega $$ package. There is no way to get rid of ESA, traction control and other weight adding "features" on the motorad package.
The rims are about $3K USD so only slighty cheaper than the package.
I hate the traction control and ESA is not worth its weight.

I fear BMW will stick with the 6 cylinder and take the "sport" down a few notches in their next "sport touring" offer.

I had a 12 and loved it. OXCART2 was a hotrod. My 13 (OXCART3) somehow makes more horsepower while sounding less radical. It does everything faster and easier. It even has (slightly) better weather protection. I'm trying to think of a suitable fighter aircraft analogy, but I can't.

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Putting a deposit down today for the full Moto package. $20K USD so not all that bad in BMW terms.
Any comments on zero mile changes:
1) change over my Akropovic full Ti exhaust from the K12 to the K13
2) Li battery (love the one in the 12)
3) Michelin Pilot Roads if they are not stock
4) paint it blue so I can say to Wifey "what new bike" (just kidding)
Salesman said these will not void warranty, but then again I do not have that in writing.
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Putting a deposit down today for the full Moto package. $20K USD so not all that bad in BMW terms.
Any comments on zero mile changes:
1) change over my Akropovic full Ti exhaust from the K12 to the K13
2) Li battery (love the one in the 12)
3) Michelin Pilot Roads if they are not stock
4) paint it blue so I can say to Wifey "what new bike" (just kidding)
Salesman said these will not void warranty, but then again I do not have that in writing.

Why make any of those zero mile changes?
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HAHAHA, because I don't want to backtrack.
I set sag, levers and change whatever else I can before I leave the dealer. With over 500K miles riding various bikes and a lot of study I have a good idea how I want things and the manufacturer / dealer does not.
The 13 will also get a trip to FastLine for a fuel map at around 5 - 6 K miles. No point in remapping until it is broken in IMO. That should get me a bike that is better than the 12 is now.
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HAHAHA, because I don't want to backtrack.
I set sag, levers and change whatever else I can before I leave the dealer. With over 500K miles riding various bikes and a lot of study I have a good idea how I want things and the manufacturer / dealer does not.
The 13 will also get a trip to FastLine for a fuel map at around 5 - 6 K miles. No point in remapping until it is broken in IMO. That should get me a bike that is better than the 12 is now.

Glad I could be so amusing. Not sure how NOT changing anything to start with is backtracking, but if you've got so much riding experience and study, and already have a good idea how you want things, then I guess you don't really need anyone's comments here. Happy riding.
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I went to the dealer today to order a replacement for my old K1200S. I agree the 1300S may be the last of the breed. Unfortunately I failed to make a decision.
I was told there is no "sport bike" package for the 2015 K1300S. You cannot order the forged rims unless you get the mega $$ package. There is no way to get rid of ESA, traction control and other weight adding "features" on the motorad package.
The rims are about $3K USD so only slighty cheaper than the package.
I hate the traction control and ESA is not worth its weight.

I fear BMW will stick with the 6 cylinder and take the "sport" down a few notches in their next "sport touring" offer.

If I lived in a flat-lander state with NO frost heaves and NO twisties and NO 4 legged creatures that wonder in the night, I would agree in your ESA/TC opinion. I guess the "bluehairs" are a concern, NO?

I was at the original Max's (NH) today and a salesperson (friend?) all but said astalavista baby to the KS as we know it but offered no "for sure" as to replacement.
He was leaning to the R1200RS/R though as most likely....SHIT!

I guess my most likely options are: keep the 2010 (extended warranty until 2018) and look around for a Z4M... OH yes... and a warmer fuckin' climate Oct-March!
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No need to put words in my mouth Mike. There is a LOT more than 500K miles experience posted here. Of course I need advice.

We can go on forever about traction control. In the end it is personal preference and I hate the bike second guessing how much throttle I want. ABS on the other hand I love.

There is never a freeze where I am, but the roads are very rough. At least they are consistently rough so my Wilbers could be set up for all my riding. After a difficult time dialing in the Wilbers I changed my opinion about ESA, not worth the weight to me. I am not sure how much of the weight is unsprung, and it does have a leverage factor. But the ESA I replaced on the 12 is about 8 lbs weight saved.
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No need to put words in my mouth Mike. There is a LOT more than 500K miles experience posted here. Of course I need advice.

We can go on forever about traction control. In the end it is personal preference and I hate the bike second guessing how much throttle I want. ABS on the other hand I love.

There is never a freeze where I am, but the roads are very rough. At least they are consistently rough so my Wilbers could be set up for all my riding. After a difficult time dialing in the Wilbers I changed my opinion about ESA, not worth the weight to me. I am not sure how much of the weight is unsprung, and it does have a leverage factor. But the ESA I replaced on the 12 is about 8 lbs weight saved.

The three items you asked for comments about (#229) did not include TC or shock absorbers.
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Putting a deposit down today for the full Moto package. $20K USD so not all that bad in BMW terms.
Any comments on zero mile changes:
1) change over my Akropovic full Ti exhaust from the K12 to the K13
2) Li battery (love the one in the 12)
3) Michelin Pilot Roads if they are not stock
4) paint it blue so I can say to Wifey "what new bike" (just kidding)
Salesman said these will not void warranty, but then again I do not have that in writing.
I have to say, when I bought my 2nd F800R it was the quickest sale the guy had ever done... money handed over & less than 5 mins I was gone... salesman wanted to tell me all about it but with 30,000 miles on one there was nothing to tell. I went home & changed it to the way I like it. I guess having a 13 after a 12 is pretty much the same.

1 thing though... I wouldn't ditch the tyres unless you really know you hate them... a) they tend to last only a couple of thousand miles anyway because they seem to fit a really soft copy of the tyres on new vehicles (so you don't wrap them round the 1st tree)... b) if all you use is 1 type of tyre you're not speaking from experience when you make a recommendation... consider this as your free tyre review opportunity. Besides, you're gonna be taking it easy for the 1st few hundred miles anyway... why waste that mileage on a good set of tyres that could be better used when you can give it a proper blast... & c) you might find you quite like them.

I had Metzelers on my K13R &, having hated them on the F800, had no probs with them on the bigger bike (other than that they only lasted 3000 miles)... replaced them with PR4s because I wanted winter grip. In the dry the Metzelers were way better especially on the edge of the tyre but the PR's are invaluable for their wet grip.

Yes there are a lot more miles of experience here than your "mere" 500K ( ) & yours adds to that pool of knowledge... happy riding!

Anyway... what was this thread about?
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Good point HedgeHog, I will run what tires the 13 comes with. My last test with Conti and Metzler was when the 12 was new.
Sorry for hijacking the thread. There is no news I can find on an actual replacement, only conjecture.
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Interesting comments about the weight of the bike. IMO the bike's weight is not the issue. The issue is the suspension geometry that makes the bike feel a bit heavy and a bit slow to turn. A new KxxxxS needs to handle better in order to compete with the heavier but more nimble competition. With well sorted suspension the weight will not be an issue. Has to maintain it's stability though.

Other ************************les are the vibration at certain revs. There should be a factory top box. I had to go the Krauser route. I do 175 miles a day on my K and tank just gets me to work and back, but yea I spend ages filling it right to the top with that tiny air hole.

As for cruise control, ok fine but these days that's not enough. I want adaptive cruise control that adjusts speed automatically. Too much to ask?

Agree with all the other suggestions. I want my K to be kinda the ultimate sports tourer. it has to be able to do everything including two up fully loaded touring to being the most awesome sports tourer in the world. I never want a car to be able to out drag me, even when commuting to work every day, I have to be the boss , and that guy I see on his ZZR1400 (I think) shouldn't be able to out drag me

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Interesting comments about the weight of the bike. IMO the bike's weight is not the issue. The issue is the suspension geometry that makes the bike feel a bit heavy and a bit slow to turn. A new KxxxxS needs to handle better in order to compete with the heavier but more nimble competition. With well sorted suspension the weight will not be an issue. Has to maintain it's stability though.

Other ************************les are the vibration at certain revs. There should be a factory top box. I had to go the Krauser route. I do 175 miles a day on my K and tank just gets me to work and back, but yea I spend ages filling it right to the top with that tiny air hole.

As for cruise control, ok fine but these days that's not enough. I want adaptive cruise control that adjusts speed automatically. Too much to ask?

Agree with all the other suggestions. I want my K to be kinda the ultimate sports tourer. it has to be able to do everything including two up fully loaded touring to being the most awesome sports tourer in the world. I never want a car to be able to out drag me, even when commuting to work every day, I have to be the boss , and that guy I see on his ZZR1400 (I think) shouldn't be able to out drag me

Salutations to the other middle aged gentlemen nutters out there.

I mostly agree, but I also think you're talking more about a GT version than an S version in your wish list. Particularly about the luggage.

The bags seem to be limited in size mainly by the styling of the exhaust pipe. Were it not swept up, you could put normal saddlebags on there.

Fully agree about cruise control, and vibration control.

Not sure about handling. I see a big difference in low speed handling going from M3's to Pirelli Angel GT's. My biggest gripe is low speed throttle control, which is really hard to modulate smoothly. My K100RS has a cam system on the throttle, requiring more turn at low throttle openings, and less the more you twist. I wonder if the K1300s has that, or some electronic mapping equivalent?
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Re: New K1300S replacement is in development!

So WHAT IS the replacement for the K1300S ?
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