I-BMW.com I-BMW.com

Welcome to the I-BMW.com forums! - You're currently viewing as a limited access guest. By joining our free member supported community, you'll gain access to post/ reply, communicate privately with other members (PM), or globally via "real time chat", respond to polls, upload photos, post classifieds etc. Membership is fast so, Register @ the Ultimate Sport Touring Portal!
Should you not receive an email with activation link, check your SPAM settings or please contact us and include the ID/ email address you registered with.

Go Back   I-BMW.com > BMW K-1200 Series Motorcycles > K1200GT-Slant 4 Version > "K12GT" Gen. Discussions
User Name
Password
Home Register Gallery Classifieds FAQ Members List Calendar Donate Mark Forums Read

"K12GT" Gen. Discussions All about the bike

Vendor Sign Up | Want to see your name in neon blue? | Want a neat reflective sticker for your ride?!

Reply
 
Thread Tools.. Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-10-2015, 03:13 PM
urbster urbster is offline
Exceeding Highway speeds
Post: 97 Thanks: 0
Thanked 21 Times in 14 Posts
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

The recall affects the following models in the U.S.:

2006 BMW HP2 Enduro (364 units)
2008-2009 BMW HP2 Megamoto (93 units)
2008-2010 BMW HP2 Sport (196 units)
2006-2008 BMW K1200GT (3,057 units)
2006-2008 BMW K1200R (1,373 units)
2007 BMW K1200R Sport (488 units)
2005-2008 BMW K1200S (3,866 units)
2009-2010 BMW K1300GT (1,148 units)
2010-2011 BMW K1300R (4 units)
2009-2011 BMW K1300S (1,289 units)
2005-2010 BMW R1200GS (11,991 units)
2006-2010 BMW R1200GS Adventure (5,238 units)
2007-2010 BMW R1200R (1,920 units)
2005-2010 BMW R1200RT (11,367 units)
2007 BMW R1200S (477 units)
2005-2007 BMW R1200ST (555 units)

Just awaiting my letter in the UK as this is a Worldwide recall.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-10-2015, 05:50 PM
Pirate's Avatar
Pirate Pirate is online now
Supporting Vendor
Post: 7,025 Thanks: 1,706
Thanked 2,058 Times in 795 Posts
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Asheville, NC USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Has anyone here gotten their recall notice yet???
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-11-2015, 12:47 PM
usm1 usm1 is offline
too afraid to post
Post: 26 Thanks: 48
Thanked 18 Times in 13 Posts
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Clay County, tx usa
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pirate
Has anyone here gotten their recall notice yet???
Buying parts Wednesday, dealer has no information on recall
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-11-2015, 01:03 PM
Pirate's Avatar
Pirate Pirate is online now
Supporting Vendor
Post: 7,025 Thanks: 1,706
Thanked 2,058 Times in 795 Posts
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Asheville, NC USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Keep your receipts and they'll reimburse you.... FYI... I just heard a few minutes ago that the recall is expected to begin April 21.

Quote:
Originally Posted by usm1
Buying parts Wednesday, dealer has no information on recall
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-13-2015, 04:56 AM
VICUK VICUK is offline
Entering the on-ramp
Post: 3 Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Buxton, UK
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

The rear wheel flange on my 2006 K1200GT was replaced last week at Alan Jefferies Shipley. Not by way of a recall letter because it was in for ABS work and the recall was carried out at the same time.
If you go to the VOSA website you can search for your specific bike online. Not sure if this applies to US models but it gives you a good insight. I am now on my 10th "used" beemer and my BMW main dealer has always provided this information when I have asked if my new bike has had all recalls carried out regardless if the bike has warranty/service/repair history through Motorrad.
All recall work that I have had carried out has been free of charge and as the bike goes through a "health check" as part of the process it has revealed some other mechanical issues that required attention, nothing safety critical, just consumable items that I was able to have replaced by BMW at my own cost at the time or which I fixed myself later.
Here's the link http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/default.asp
Regards
Victor
__________________
Vic
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-13-2015, 06:19 AM
urbster urbster is offline
Exceeding Highway speeds
Post: 97 Thanks: 0
Thanked 21 Times in 14 Posts
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

That link appears to be for cars only ?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-13-2015, 07:07 AM
VICUK VICUK is offline
Entering the on-ramp
Post: 3 Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Buxton, UK
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Please revisit and try again. The VOSA site lists ALL vehicles.
Go back and directly underneath BMW choose BMW Motorcycles.
Regards
__________________
Vic
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-23-2015, 09:42 AM
moymurfs moymurfs is offline
Getting up to speed
Post: 36 Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pirate
Has anyone here gotten their recall notice yet???


Got mine a couple of days ago..
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-23-2015, 10:06 AM
Capt Howdy's Avatar
Capt Howdy Capt Howdy is online now
Moderator
Post: 2,160 Thanks: 911
Thanked 1,410 Times in 795 Posts
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pirate
Has anyone here gotten their recall notice yet???

I got mine 2weeks ago but had spoken to BMW Australia previous to the recall. Had mine done before the recall notice came. BMW Australia has always been very good with their customer service.
__________________
It's so nice to be insane-No one asks you to explain

2008 K1200R - B1.
2009 HP2 Sport. - B2
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-23-2015, 10:49 AM
bernardo's Avatar
bernardo bernardo is offline
Moderator
Post: 5,051 Thanks: 2,646
Thanked 2,067 Times in 1,416 Posts
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Las Varillas, Argentina
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt Howdy
I got mine 2weeks ago but had spoken to BMW Australia previous to the recall. Had mine done before the recall notice came. BMW Australia has always been very good with their customer service.

Better is take a look....




__________________
Do you like the forum? Please help to maintain it, make a donation!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 05-23-2015, 05:45 PM
McWideglide's Avatar
McWideglide McWideglide is online now
Postmeister
Post: 1,231 Thanks: 11
Thanked 146 Times in 88 Posts
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: San Mateo, CA USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

I received my notice a week and a half ago .I had it replaced last Saturday along with the switch replacement. They had the bike for almost 3 hours but I waited for it. Nice to have it done. No sign of cracking on the old aluminum flange either.
__________________
McWideglide

Jeff M.
2002 Harley Dyna Wideglide
2016 BMW R1200RT
2009 BMW K1300GT sold
1976 BMW R90/6 sold
1967 BSA 441 Victor sold
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-23-2015, 06:14 PM
Capt Howdy's Avatar
Capt Howdy Capt Howdy is online now
Moderator
Post: 2,160 Thanks: 911
Thanked 1,410 Times in 795 Posts
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bernardo
Better is take a look....





You're right Bernardo. I should've mentioned that I did take a look as a result of info posted on this forum by Bruce. That's why I was able to get it replaced before the recall letter arrived. Just another benefit of this great forum.
__________________
It's so nice to be insane-No one asks you to explain

2008 K1200R - B1.
2009 HP2 Sport. - B2
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05-23-2015, 06:37 PM
Doctor D's Avatar
Doctor D Doctor D is offline
To the moon Alice!
Post: 2,022 Thanks: 176
Thanked 502 Times in 245 Posts
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Montreal, QC Canada
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Found this pic on line. But this crack is where the rotor is attached rather than the wheel

__________________
Dennis
Don't eat yellow snow!

1973 BLACK NORTON COMMANDO 850
2009 RED K1300GT
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 05-23-2015, 06:42 PM
K_Flyer's Avatar
K_Flyer K_Flyer is offline
Born to ride
Post: 955 Thanks: 970
Thanked 287 Times in 160 Posts
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Sutter Creek, CA USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Just had both of ours replaced. No sign of cracks and A&S said they'd not seen any cracked ones yet. Okay, we ride like wusses! (Pat, please note I chose the correct term! )
__________________
K_Flyer
2015 FJR1300ES (Murray)
2015 FJR1300A (Theresa)

"Fairness is about equality of opportunity, not equality of outcomes." -- Kellyanne Conway
"White Privilege" means that you, and others, will never wonder if you were successful because of Affirmative Action. -- Anon.
Reply With Quote
This I-BMW member either likes, thanks -or- is 'shouting out' to 'K_Flyer' for this post:
  #15  
Old 05-24-2015, 12:34 AM
XMagnaRider XMagnaRider is offline
Site Contributor
Post: 505 Thanks: 26
Thanked 76 Times in 58 Posts
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Anaheim, CA USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Does the cracking danger apply if you are careful to follow the lug nut torque specs in the repair manual?

... or is it only from over-torquing the lug nuts?
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 05-24-2015, 01:06 AM
Capt Howdy's Avatar
Capt Howdy Capt Howdy is online now
Moderator
Post: 2,160 Thanks: 911
Thanked 1,410 Times in 795 Posts
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Quote:
Originally Posted by XMagnaRider
Does the cracking danger apply if you are careful to follow the lug nut torque specs in the repair manual?

... or is it only from over-torquing the lug nuts?

Hey xmr. I meticulously followed the torque setting. I have had the bike since new and purchased a torque wrench for that purpose. I found one small hairline crack on one of the lobes that the wheel bolts onto. Get it fixed while it's free
__________________
It's so nice to be insane-No one asks you to explain

2008 K1200R - B1.
2009 HP2 Sport. - B2
Reply With Quote
This I-BMW member either likes, thanks -or- is 'shouting out' to 'Capt Howdy' for this post:
  #17  
Old 05-24-2015, 01:46 AM
McWideglide's Avatar
McWideglide McWideglide is online now
Postmeister
Post: 1,231 Thanks: 11
Thanked 146 Times in 88 Posts
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: San Mateo, CA USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt Howdy
Hey xmr. I meticulously followed the torque setting. I have had the bike since new and purchased a torque wrench for that purpose. I found one small hairline crack on one of the lobes that the wheel bolts onto. Get it fixed while it's free

Was your torque wrench calibrated for accuracy?

I think Starship Command would not have issued a recall if only proper torques were used. too many don't own a torque wrench. I have so many.
__________________
McWideglide

Jeff M.
2002 Harley Dyna Wideglide
2016 BMW R1200RT
2009 BMW K1300GT sold
1976 BMW R90/6 sold
1967 BSA 441 Victor sold
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 05-24-2015, 04:37 AM
Capt Howdy's Avatar
Capt Howdy Capt Howdy is online now
Moderator
Post: 2,160 Thanks: 911
Thanked 1,410 Times in 795 Posts
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Quote:
Originally Posted by McWideglide
Was your torque wrench calibrated for accuracy?

I think Starship Command would not have issued a recall if only proper torques were used. too many don't own a torque wrench. I have so many.

Yes it was within 1% which represents less than 1Nm.
__________________
It's so nice to be insane-No one asks you to explain

2008 K1200R - B1.
2009 HP2 Sport. - B2
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 05-24-2015, 07:48 AM
beto1200s's Avatar
beto1200s beto1200s is offline
Getting up to speed
Post: 20 Thanks: 2
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: São Paulo, SP Brazil
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

I scheduled the flange exchange for my K-1200s (2006 - 44,300 km) at EUROBIKE in São Paulo.
They also did two other pending recalls: fuel pump exchange and cam chain anti jump (re)installed (two years ago by my self I had it installed with the hydraulic tensioner and also put a mettalic fuel hose quick disconect)

All these for free $$$$$!!!
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 05-24-2015, 08:27 AM
kinerin kinerin is offline
Getting up to speed
Post: 123 Thanks: 6
Thanked 20 Times in 12 Posts
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: colgate, WI usa
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pirate
Has anyone here gotten their recall notice yet???
Received mine last Tuesday.

Interesting, I called the dealer the next day to schedule the repair and was told by the service manager that a Vin # check indicated that my bike was not affected (2006 K1200S).


Called bmwusa to verify and they stated that my bike WAS affected based upon Vin #.

Left a call to the dealer, have not yet been contacted.

Tuesday I'll ride over to dealer and do a face-to-face.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 05-24-2015, 08:47 AM
moymurfs moymurfs is offline
Getting up to speed
Post: 36 Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

The reason BMW is replacing them is because the part can fail even when the correct torque is applied. Of course, BMW can't admit the part is faulty... They use the terms "precautionary" "because owners over-torque the wheel bolts" etc.. The fact of the matter is their mechanics have been over-torqueing them also... I have also seen the cracks where the rotor mounts vs. the wheel bolts. My guess (tongue in cheek) is Hans in the factory was in charge of 2 things: Rear wheel flanges and the Fuel quick disconnects .
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 05-24-2015, 09:37 AM
bobby's Avatar
bobby bobby is offline
Site Contributor
Post: 2,056 Thanks: 77
Thanked 605 Times in 406 Posts
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: helena, mt us
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Got my notice two weeks ago. Re-checked the flange and no visible cracks, but there may be one starting that I can't see. Will call this week to schedule the repair.
__________________
Nothingness is unstable; therefore we are.

Black 2013 k1300s
Mandarin/Titan Silver Metallic 1999 r1100s
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 05-24-2015, 03:56 PM
mudman mudman is offline
interacting
Post: 702 Thanks: 5
Thanked 41 Times in 34 Posts
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Ruther Glen, VA USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Have K1200GT-'07 model. Got my notice about 10 days ago. Inspected rear wheel flange. Fortunately, there is absolutely no crack or damage visible. Will schedule with dealer for "official inspection". Looks OK to me.*******************************MdMn******
__________________
Mudman
K1200GT-'07
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 05-24-2015, 09:27 PM
Wynnded's Avatar
Wynnded Wynnded is offline
Getting up to speed
Post: 26 Thanks: 9
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Colorado Rockies, USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Got mine as well. I'll be trailering my bike to the dealer and leaving it with them for a few days to allow them to do the fuel tank flange and cam chain guide as well.
__________________
Tesla > Edison
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 05-25-2015, 12:57 AM
McFly's Avatar
McFly McFly is online now
Moderator -Tainting The i-BMW Gene Pool
Post: 10,417 Thanks: 2,788
Thanked 2,805 Times in 1,277 Posts
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Deep in the Heart of, TX USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

I'm taking mine in Thursday for the inspection.
__________________
2007 White Aluminum Metallic K12S a.k.a. "The Mighty Mighty"
2003 Moto Guzzi V11 LeMans (Rosso Race Red)
1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado 850 California (Police Edition)
2010 KTM 530 EXC Champion Edition a.k.a. "Brutus"
____________________________________

- FZ

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" -
Arthur Schopenhauer

"Vulgarity is the crutch of an illiterate mutherfucker" - Chris Andries
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 05-25-2015, 11:01 AM
McWideglide's Avatar
McWideglide McWideglide is online now
Postmeister
Post: 1,231 Thanks: 11
Thanked 146 Times in 88 Posts
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: San Mateo, CA USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Stated earlier, my vin was on the letter from BMW. There is no inspection needed, schedule the replacement of the part. No need making two trips unless you plan to leave it there.
__________________
McWideglide

Jeff M.
2002 Harley Dyna Wideglide
2016 BMW R1200RT
2009 BMW K1300GT sold
1976 BMW R90/6 sold
1967 BSA 441 Victor sold
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 05-25-2015, 11:07 AM
mudman mudman is offline
interacting
Post: 702 Thanks: 5
Thanked 41 Times in 34 Posts
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Ruther Glen, VA USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

So--McWideglide. I guess you are saying replace it even if nothing is wrong with it? Well, when I take it in for inspection I will be sure they have the parts to do the job (I'm sure they will) and may follow your advice. Even though a small voice in the back of my head often says, "don't fix it if it ain't broke".*************************************MdMn*********
__________________
Mudman
K1200GT-'07
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 05-25-2015, 12:49 PM
Wynnded's Avatar
Wynnded Wynnded is offline
Getting up to speed
Post: 26 Thanks: 9
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Colorado Rockies, USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

There could be microfractures that are not visible to the naked eye, or a tech that's being rushed. They may only show up on something like an X-ray or some such, I'm thinking along the lines of how welds are sometimes inspected. You could have a tech take a glance at it and say that all is well then further down the road the microfractures get larger without you realizing it as you lean hard into a corner and your smile suddenly turns to a frown just before an unexpected get-off. Take it in for replacement.
__________________
Tesla > Edison
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 05-25-2015, 02:26 PM
moymurfs moymurfs is offline
Getting up to speed
Post: 36 Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

I heard the new part was now steel vs. the current aluminum.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 05-25-2015, 04:43 PM
Wynnded's Avatar
Wynnded Wynnded is offline
Getting up to speed
Post: 26 Thanks: 9
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Colorado Rockies, USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Quote:
Originally Posted by moymurfs
I heard the new part was now steel vs. the current aluminum.
My notice reads: The aluminum rear wheel flange will be replaced with a steel version.
__________________
Tesla > Edison
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 05-25-2015, 09:09 PM
24unc's Avatar
24unc 24unc is offline
Entering the on-ramp
Post: 99 Thanks: 3
Thanked 38 Times in 20 Posts
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: York, PA United State
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Got my recall notice last week, called dealer, have to set up appointment to order parts. If you do it on your own and hand in receipts good luck. I had a terrible time getting reimbursed from BMW for fuel pump recall.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 05-25-2015, 09:32 PM
McWideglide's Avatar
McWideglide McWideglide is online now
Postmeister
Post: 1,231 Thanks: 11
Thanked 146 Times in 88 Posts
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: San Mateo, CA USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mudman
So--McWideglide. I guess you are saying replace it even if nothing is wrong with it? Well, when I take it in for inspection I will be sure they have the parts to do the job (I'm sure they will) and may follow your advice. Even though a small voice in the back of my head often says, "don't fix it if it ain't broke".*************************************MdMn*********

They don't say replace if broke, they will replace aluminum with steel , no charge. Make it easy, schedule an appointment and wait an hour for the replacement.
__________________
McWideglide

Jeff M.
2002 Harley Dyna Wideglide
2016 BMW R1200RT
2009 BMW K1300GT sold
1976 BMW R90/6 sold
1967 BSA 441 Victor sold
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 05-26-2015, 07:04 PM
K_Flyer's Avatar
K_Flyer K_Flyer is offline
Born to ride
Post: 955 Thanks: 970
Thanked 287 Times in 160 Posts
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Sutter Creek, CA USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Quote:
Originally Posted by McWideglide
They don't say replace if broke, they will replace aluminum with steel , no charge. Make it easy, schedule an appointment and wait an hour for the replacement.

Took three hours on each of our bikes. Service manager said the flange had to be heated to install it. I was originally told an hour so I was waiting and fuming and asking "Is it done yet?"
__________________
K_Flyer
2015 FJR1300ES (Murray)
2015 FJR1300A (Theresa)

"Fairness is about equality of opportunity, not equality of outcomes." -- Kellyanne Conway
"White Privilege" means that you, and others, will never wonder if you were successful because of Affirmative Action. -- Anon.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 05-26-2015, 07:12 PM
Pirate's Avatar
Pirate Pirate is online now
Supporting Vendor
Post: 7,025 Thanks: 1,706
Thanked 2,058 Times in 795 Posts
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Asheville, NC USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

I called to set up an appointment and they quoted 3 hours minimum and suggested I leave it overnight ... I'd have been fuming too if I had to wait that long... Geez...

Quote:
Originally Posted by K_Flyer
Took three hours on each of our bikes. Service manager said the flange had to be heated to install it. I was originally told an hour so I was waiting and fuming and asking "Is it done yet?"
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 05-26-2015, 07:14 PM
mudman mudman is offline
interacting
Post: 702 Thanks: 5
Thanked 41 Times in 34 Posts
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Ruther Glen, VA USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Just made the appointment. Almost a month away. McWideG is correct. They don't inspect, they replace. My service guy said 1 hour, too. Hope that's the case, but if not...Oh, well! At least it's on BMW's nickel. I had to pay for ABS and timing chain adjuster.******MdMn***
__________________
Mudman
K1200GT-'07
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 05-26-2015, 07:47 PM
K_Flyer's Avatar
K_Flyer K_Flyer is offline
Born to ride
Post: 955 Thanks: 970
Thanked 287 Times in 160 Posts
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Sutter Creek, CA USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

I recall reading somewhere that the steel replacement flange chews up the splines. Is this another recall in the offing?
__________________
K_Flyer
2015 FJR1300ES (Murray)
2015 FJR1300A (Theresa)

"Fairness is about equality of opportunity, not equality of outcomes." -- Kellyanne Conway
"White Privilege" means that you, and others, will never wonder if you were successful because of Affirmative Action. -- Anon.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 05-26-2015, 08:00 PM
mudman mudman is offline
interacting
Post: 702 Thanks: 5
Thanked 41 Times in 34 Posts
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Ruther Glen, VA USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Doubt it. If you talking about the splines in the drive shaft. It's no where near the drive shaft and on the other side of the wheel.*****************************MdMn************
__________________
Mudman
K1200GT-'07
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 05-26-2015, 08:17 PM
Capt Howdy's Avatar
Capt Howdy Capt Howdy is online now
Moderator
Post: 2,160 Thanks: 911
Thanked 1,410 Times in 795 Posts
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Quote:
Originally Posted by K_Flyer
I recall reading somewhere that the steel replacement flange chews up the splines. Is this another recall in the offing?

That was suggested because the new flange has a female spline that is a shrink fit onto a steel spline that makes up the 'axle'. I can't see a problem as there will be no movement btwn the parts to cause wear. Also there is no recall for the steel flanges that have been fitted as standard, suggesting no problems.
__________________
It's so nice to be insane-No one asks you to explain

2008 K1200R - B1.
2009 HP2 Sport. - B2
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 05-26-2015, 09:45 PM
K_Flyer's Avatar
K_Flyer K_Flyer is offline
Born to ride
Post: 955 Thanks: 970
Thanked 287 Times in 160 Posts
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Sutter Creek, CA USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt Howdy
Also there is no recall for the steel flanges that have been fitted as standard, suggesting no problems.

Given that BMW does not issue recalls without a lot of us suffering from their crappy design for a long time, I would not take that as an indication that there have not already been problems seen with the steel flange.
__________________
K_Flyer
2015 FJR1300ES (Murray)
2015 FJR1300A (Theresa)

"Fairness is about equality of opportunity, not equality of outcomes." -- Kellyanne Conway
"White Privilege" means that you, and others, will never wonder if you were successful because of Affirmative Action. -- Anon.
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 05-26-2015, 10:12 PM
bags's Avatar
bags bags is offline
Entering the on-ramp
Post: 9 Thanks: 4
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Rabbit Hash, KY USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

I received my recall right around May 15th but haven't scheduled anything yet. There are also two other recalls they will do on the timing chain guide and the fuel pump IF I recall correctly.

I have been too busy to deal with it recently but it is on my short list to do. It's nice to know they back their bikes up on problems..... Question is, Why does it take them 10 years?

I've had the bike ( 2005 K1200S ) for a year now and put plenty of miles on it without issues. I did just replace the battery this spring and have two new Pilot 4's in the garage that will be mounted shortly.

I've read a lot here and have lurked without much comment. I still need to post some pics as promised too. Not enough time in the day......
__________________
Ride Safe!......... You're the bumper.
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 05-26-2015, 10:56 PM
Capt Howdy's Avatar
Capt Howdy Capt Howdy is online now
Moderator
Post: 2,160 Thanks: 911
Thanked 1,410 Times in 795 Posts
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Quote:
Originally Posted by K_Flyer
Given that BMW does not issue recalls without a lot of us suffering from their crappy design for a long time, I would not take that as an indication that there have not already been problems seen with the steel flange.

That thought occurred to me when composing the response but I believe the steel flange has been around long enough on other models not affected by the recall to have had any problems become evident
__________________
It's so nice to be insane-No one asks you to explain

2008 K1200R - B1.
2009 HP2 Sport. - B2
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 05-26-2015, 11:20 PM
Pirate's Avatar
Pirate Pirate is online now
Supporting Vendor
Post: 7,025 Thanks: 1,706
Thanked 2,058 Times in 795 Posts
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Asheville, NC USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

I think the crash in Europe by a German couple due to the flange cracking probably woke them up for the recall.. They were hospitalized, but recovered... Lucky for BMW...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt Howdy
That thought occurred to me when composing the response but I believe the steel flange has been around long enough on other models not affected by the recall to have had any problems become evident
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 05-26-2015, 11:33 PM
McWideglide's Avatar
McWideglide McWideglide is online now
Postmeister
Post: 1,231 Thanks: 11
Thanked 146 Times in 88 Posts
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: San Mateo, CA USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Quote:
Originally Posted by K_Flyer
Took three hours on each of our bikes. Service manager said the flange had to be heated to install it. I was originally told an hour so I was waiting and fuming and asking "Is it done yet?"

I guess they only had one mechanic. tough wait. I was told about 1 hour for the flange. I had both multi function switches replaced at the same time. That made up two hours . I was in at 9am and out by noon. It was a long wait as they only had a wooden bench outside. Weather was fine so engaged the book I was reading. I would vote for a more comfortable waiting area. Waiting saved me from having my wife inconvenienced on her Saturday off times two if I left it and picked it up the following Saturday .
__________________
McWideglide

Jeff M.
2002 Harley Dyna Wideglide
2016 BMW R1200RT
2009 BMW K1300GT sold
1976 BMW R90/6 sold
1967 BSA 441 Victor sold
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 05-27-2015, 06:32 AM
TBarnes's Avatar
TBarnes TBarnes is offline
Has gotten a ticket or two…
Post: 136 Thanks: 14
Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Canberra, Australia
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Mine was done last week along with fuel pump flange,rear suspension linkage, and cam chain jump guard
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 05-27-2015, 07:43 AM
Zoomie's Avatar
Zoomie Zoomie is offline
Entering the on-ramp
Post: 91 Thanks: 40
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Auburn, WA USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

I have heard nothing from BMW. No letters, post cards, etc. Time to call, I guess
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 05-31-2015, 09:15 AM
bags's Avatar
bags bags is offline
Entering the on-ramp
Post: 9 Thanks: 4
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Rabbit Hash, KY USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Zoomie,
Make the call. I did. Funny you mention not receiving a letter. I had not gotten anything and when I called BMW the gal told me there was nothing on the rear wheel flange and about a week and a half after the call I get the recall letter in the mail. No kidding.

I also called BMW of Louisville, KY and they said my bike has two more recalls that need to be done besides the rear wheel flange. I'll probably just trailer it down and drop it off and pick it up the following weekend as soon as I have time to schedule it in.

BMW owners are not real fond of the Louisville shop and many take theirs up to Indianapolis instead. I might do the same although Louisville is a little closer. I'm in between the two about 30 miles south west of Cincinnati. There used to be BMW of Cincinnati and they were great there. Not sure why they closed.
__________________
Ride Safe!......... You're the bumper.
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 05-31-2015, 09:21 AM
McFly's Avatar
McFly McFly is online now
Moderator -Tainting The i-BMW Gene Pool
Post: 10,417 Thanks: 2,788
Thanked 2,805 Times in 1,277 Posts
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Deep in the Heart of, TX USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoomie
I have heard nothing from BMW. No letters, post cards, etc. Time to call, I guess
I record the letter but all BMW shops should be prepared and stocked with the replacement parts. Even if the rear wheel carrier flange shows no signs of failure or fatigue, it will be replaced. Got mine replaced last week and it's all systems go.
__________________
2007 White Aluminum Metallic K12S a.k.a. "The Mighty Mighty"
2003 Moto Guzzi V11 LeMans (Rosso Race Red)
1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado 850 California (Police Edition)
2010 KTM 530 EXC Champion Edition a.k.a. "Brutus"
____________________________________

- FZ

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" -
Arthur Schopenhauer

"Vulgarity is the crutch of an illiterate mutherfucker" - Chris Andries
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 06-04-2015, 11:33 PM
Wynnded's Avatar
Wynnded Wynnded is offline
Getting up to speed
Post: 26 Thanks: 9
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Colorado Rockies, USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bags
Zoomie,
Make the call. I did. Funny you mention not receiving a letter. I had not gotten anything and when I called BMW the gal told me there was nothing on the rear wheel flange and about a week and a half after the call I get the recall letter in the mail. No kidding.

I also called BMW of Louisville, KY and they said my bike has two more recalls that need to be done besides the rear wheel flange. I'll probably just trailer it down and drop it off and pick it up the following weekend as soon as I have time to schedule it in.

BMW owners are not real fond of the Louisville shop and many take theirs up to Indianapolis instead. I might do the same although Louisville is a little closer. I'm in between the two about 30 miles south west of Cincinnati. There used to be BMW of Cincinnati and they were great there. Not sure why they closed.
I'm having to trailer mine 100 miles, each way for the closest dealer. I have to take my truck in to have a dealer examine a warranty issue at the same time, so it kinda works out.
__________________
Tesla > Edison
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 06-05-2015, 02:16 AM
frenchie's Avatar
frenchie frenchie is offline
Riding Bikes Clears the Head
Post: 285 Thanks: 1
Thanked 76 Times in 48 Posts
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Christchurch, New Zealand
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Had mine done today and also a new fuel pump was put in which was an old recall.
__________________
2007 K1200S in Blue,Silver,Black
Grip Puppies
BMW Tank Bag
AMHP Headlight Protector
Tank Grips
Side Stand Plate
MRA Double Bubble Tinted Screen
Ctek hardwired connection
Narva Ultra Blue (4200k) lights
Throttlemeister throttle lock
Ventura Luggage Rack and Bag
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 06-05-2015, 06:56 AM
paulmogs paulmogs is offline
Site Contributor
Post: 2,243 Thanks: 1,535
Thanked 2,232 Times in 1,077 Posts
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Ima mr unimportant; rang end of May, to be informed 30th June the soonest.
Reply With Quote
  #51  
Old 06-05-2015, 12:27 PM
aj7840's Avatar
aj7840 aj7840 is offline
Exceeding Highway speeds
Post: 75 Thanks: 3
Thanked 16 Times in 9 Posts
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Rockford, MI USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Quote:
Originally Posted by moymurfs
The reason BMW is replacing them is because the part can fail even when the correct torque is applied. Of course, BMW can't admit the part is faulty... They use the terms "precautionary" "because owners over-torque the wheel bolts" etc.. The fact of the matter is their mechanics have been over-torqueing them also... I have also seen the cracks where the rotor mounts vs. the wheel bolts. My guess (tongue in cheek) is Hans in the factory was in charge of 2 things: Rear wheel flanges and the Fuel quick disconnects .

Actually more, he did the zip ties on the wires for the brake wear indicators and the brake lines at the ABS units, he might have also worked for the ABS manufacturer.
__________________

07 K1200GT CGM
00 Ducati 900 Monster
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 06-05-2015, 12:43 PM
aj7840's Avatar
aj7840 aj7840 is offline
Exceeding Highway speeds
Post: 75 Thanks: 3
Thanked 16 Times in 9 Posts
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Rockford, MI USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

The local BMW dealer does a spring multipoint inspection for free for the local BMW club in late April.

Replaced the flange (before I got the letter) that day. Not very busy, a rainy day and the wimps stayed home (No such thing as bad weather, just bad gear - well except for snow, I don't ride in the snow).

from the inspection
He suggested I should get a new rear tire, something about being at the wear bars. They had a spring sale on tires with free mounting. (cost was about $20 more than buying online and getting them mounted).
__________________

07 K1200GT CGM
00 Ducati 900 Monster
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 06-09-2015, 07:31 PM
Maximo Maximo is offline
Has gotten a ticket or two…
Post: 112 Thanks: 13
Thanked 22 Times in 17 Posts
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Chico, CA United State
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

My recall notice came in early May, I immediately called for an appointment, and they were scheduling at the end of July! Luckily they got me in at the end of June, since I'm taking a 3,000 mile tour with my old man the first week of July.
__________________
07 K1200GT
00 SV650N
12 DR200SE
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 06-10-2015, 08:26 AM
Craig H.'s Avatar
Craig H. Craig H. is offline
Shooting the gap
Post: 264 Thanks: 0
Thanked 19 Times in 13 Posts
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Red Deer, Alberta, AB Canada
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

I made an appointment, and took the bike in. They did both the left and right switches and the flange. Was out of there in 2 hours. No cracks noted on the old flange.
__________________
When I go, I want to go like dear old grandpa...asleep at the wheel with everyone else in the car screaming!!

A recent study found the average Canadian walks about 900 miles a year. Another study found Canadians drink, on average, 22 gallons of beer a year. That means, on average, Canadians get about 41 miles to the gallon. Kind of makes you proud to be Canadian, doesn't it??!!

1972 Honda 450 SL
1976 Honda 750 F
1976 Yamaha XS 650
1978 Honda 125 CL
1982 Suzuki GS 1100
2004 Kawasaki ZRX 1200
2007 Suzuki GSXR 600
2009 Aprilia RS 125
2010 BMW K 1300 S
2017 BMW S1000RR
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 06-13-2015, 02:49 PM
TRC TRC is offline
Getting up to speed
Post: 24 Thanks: 0
Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Dearborn Heights, MI USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

I got my love letter in May. I haven't tended to it yet the bike's running so poorly I can't ride it much anyways Called the dealer a couple times, they are so swamped they can't answer the phone. Haven't returned my messages yet either. I wish I could just get the parts and hang 'em on there myself.
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 06-13-2015, 03:04 PM
mudman mudman is offline
interacting
Post: 702 Thanks: 5
Thanked 41 Times in 34 Posts
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Ruther Glen, VA USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Sorry to hear the bikes running so poorly. Bummer! My dealer tells me they need a "special tool" to do the flange repair-forget about doing it yourself. Hang in there!********MdMn**
__________________
Mudman
K1200GT-'07
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 06-13-2015, 09:09 PM
TRC TRC is offline
Getting up to speed
Post: 24 Thanks: 0
Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Dearborn Heights, MI USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Thanks for the encouragement, Mudman. I'll give them another shot come Monday I guess. I'm hoping it's behind a recall or two and maybe BMW'll flip the bill for the whole thing
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 06-16-2015, 11:01 PM
Wynnded's Avatar
Wynnded Wynnded is offline
Getting up to speed
Post: 26 Thanks: 9
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Colorado Rockies, USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Stopped by the dealer today to see how things were going on my bike. Wheel flange, fuel pump replacement, and chain guide, done. Tech said that as he was running the bike, he found that one of the coils had gone bad and it was pretty much running on three cylinders. I suggested that if that's the case, then the spark plug in that cylinder is going to be hurting. Heck, while you're that far into it, I may as well have you check the valves and change the coolant.

Sure enough, all the plugs were done. 28,000 miles. The tech said that they're an 18,000 mile item (replace them). Really? Haven't looked that up to double check.... He had checked two of the four sets of valves, said that they were comfortably within spec.

I may get to ride my bike this year if I have any money left over for gas
__________________
Tesla > Edison
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old 06-16-2015, 11:18 PM
Pirate's Avatar
Pirate Pirate is online now
Supporting Vendor
Post: 7,025 Thanks: 1,706
Thanked 2,058 Times in 795 Posts
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Asheville, NC USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Interesting!! Never heard of anyone having plugs go bad on these bikes or that they were a 28K item..

Anyone else heard of this?? or checked our manual to see if this is true? I'm always skeptical of what BMW mechanics say...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wynnded
Sure enough, all the plugs were done. 28,000 miles. The tech said that they're an 18,000 mile item (replace them). Really?
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 06-16-2015, 11:29 PM
Lee's Avatar
Lee Lee is online now
Debbie's Servant
Post: 15,047 Thanks: 3,467
Thanked 3,593 Times in 1,715 Posts
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: SW, IA USA
Re: Rear wheel carrier flange recall.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pirate
Interesting!! Never heard of anyone having plugs go bad on these bikes or that they were a 28K item..

Anyone else heard of this?? or checked our manual to see if this is true? I'm always skeptical of what BMW mechanics say...

BMW calls for checking valves and changing plugs every 18,000 miles.
__________________
Lee
2016 R1200RS

Past BMWs
2011 K1300S
03 K1200RS, 91 K75S, 87 K75T, 84 R100RT

Reply With Quote
This I-BMW member either likes, thanks -or- is 'shouting out' to 'Lee' for this post:
Reply


Thread Tools..
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads (a database pull of similar subject matter)
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Rear Wheel Flange Cracks brucev "K13S/R" Technical Q&A 135 10-16-2015 03:29 PM
Fuel pump flange recall/ repair Mrmerlin "K13S" Gen. Discussions 5 02-23-2014 04:27 PM
Rear Wheel Fixture mcchoc "K12S/KR" Technical Q&A 2 08-19-2012 07:21 AM
Cortech sport luggage and rear wheel stands MAPolk "K12S" Accessories 3 04-08-2008 12:08 AM
Removing the rear wheel. Michael17 "KRS/GT" Technical Q&A 12 09-27-2007 12:57 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:40 PM.


I-BMW.com is via vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2018, I-BMW.com LLC .
Page generated in 1.95401 seconds with 16 queries