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Old 08-16-2017, 08:24 PM
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Female Fuel Line Coupler

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2005 1200RT 74K miles
Fired off note to Motorad about Recall that previous owner did not
follow. Not sure what to expect since it has been 3 plus years.

Beemer Boneyard has $80 kit for the infamous fuel leak.

The OEM female fitting sheared due to cracking at the tank.
I do not know what is involved in removing old and installing the
new female fitting. The male and O rings are easy enough.

Any mechanic advice?
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Old 08-17-2017, 12:00 AM
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Re: Female Fuel Line Coupler

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Will continue search, but....

2005 1200RT 74K miles
Fired off note to Motorad about Recall that previous owner did not
follow. Not sure what to expect since it has been 3 plus years.


The recall should still be good.
Check with a dealer.
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Re: Female Fuel Line Coupler

Yes, your dealer will either install a clamp on the flange that the fitting screws into if the gauge they use fits. Or, install a complete new fuel pump as it is part of the assembly and not sold as a part. The problem is the fitting is screwed into a threaded flange on the pump output and that flange cracks. A slick sealant is used and the torque level at the factory was not adjusted for this (?). Germans will not admit it but just overtightening the fitting is the problem. This is a common problem in hydraulic fittings in plastic.
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Re: Female Fuel Line Coupler

My issue, I think, is the female coupling "screwed into the tank"
sheared below the release tab. I can not find a video or access
to shop manual which delineates removing that female coupling.

The after market part @ Boneyard gets good reviews, is metal, and seems
to be engineered for the task. I just do not know how to approach removing
what remains of the sheared part.

Perhaps just live with dealer fix, but must await approval of that option.

Thanks.
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Old 08-17-2017, 10:30 AM
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Re: Female Fuel Line Coupler

I would do the recall fix.
Buy the Beemerboneyard QD and have the shop only use the metal male end of the Boneyard QD when they do the recall.

I purchased the Boneyard QD for my K1300S and only used the male end.
I didn't like the idea of screwing in the metal female end into the plastic flange on the fuel pump.
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Old 08-17-2017, 10:47 AM
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Re: Female Fuel Line Coupler

Everything points to Dealer (80 miles away) doing recall.
Male end only won't work in my case as there is no longer
a female end.....other than whatever to term the stub left screwed into the pump.
Not sure I understand your hesitancy since it was the female end of
the plastic connections that cracked initially. I would think that is the
point in the chain that needs reinforcement due to design.

The process for removal of that stub and access for threading the BBY
part is the evaluation I am making due to the distance and transport of the bike
to the dealer. I just can't find answer to that maintenance procedure.

@ 74K miles I need a reliable fix for 10 months followed by four corners trip next Summer.

Pretty much part it out or sell it as is upon return from that trip.
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Re: Female Fuel Line Coupler

Beech

I re read and wonder.....In my case I do not think the flange cracked.
Rather, if you can picture the piece, the "seam" on the fitting one inch below
the quick release first produced the leak. Then I sheared it off attempting to access
removal. All that remains is the internal spring and evidently the flange thread site.

I guess nothing lost at this point attempting to "unscrew", but tooling seems odd.
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Re: Female Fuel Line Coupler

Just like a broken bolt but easier. You have a hole in what is left of the fitting. Use an "easy out" they spiral in and are meant to be turned counter clockwise to remove stuff. Something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/T73153-8-Inch...words=easy+out
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Re: Female Fuel Line Coupler

9mm Hex wrench fit inside diameter.

Was afraid to use easy out, but glad tool worked.
Going with BBY kit and will add clamp as well, just so I feel better.
Note to self: Do not over torque metal fitting into plastic flange.

BTW......Dealer (Eurocycles, BMW Tampa) cautioned they
were only working on bikes ten years old and younger.
They would not guarantee against breakage during
maintenance. Guess I'll get better at service work.....
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Re: Female Fuel Line Coupler

Yes, you are about to enter the danger zone. Inserting a fitting into a plastic flange is very tricky. You can not exceed needed torque (depth of fitting) but need to produce a seal. The plastic and any sealing compound or teflon tape you use (and you will need some thread sealant) will reduce the needed torque and make the turning feel easy misleading you as to how tight it really is. BMW puts a clamp ring on this flange, Beemerboneyard sells one. I have used Oteker clamps, I suggest you install a clamp before you insert your new female fitting.
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Re: Female Fuel Line Coupler

Done on BBY same order. Had planned teflon tape, but will research
thread sealants appropriate to gasoline.
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I believe the BBY kit comes with thread sealant
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Re: Female Fuel Line Coupler

Quote:
Originally Posted by PFZelechoski
Everything points to Dealer (80 miles away) doing recall.
Male end only won't work in my case as there is no longer
a female end.....other than whatever to term the stub left screwed into the pump.
Not sure I understand your hesitancy since it was the female end of
the plastic connections that cracked initially. I would think that is the
point in the chain that needs reinforcement due to design.

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I was trying to point out the female end would be replaced with a reinforced part during the recall. After the recall you only need to replace the male end with metal.
I was hesitant to use a metal female end on our bikes for fear of cracking the flange on the fuel pump.
Yours is the first female end to fail that I have heard of. Normally the male end breaks.
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