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Is the Akrapovic worth it?

Sure ten pounds lost but its 150 a pound before tax and shipping.

Thye were stock on ne special model in one year were they not?
Yah never see em for cheap on ebay.
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Re: Is ther Akrapovic worth it?

Depends - do you really need the weight reduction? Do you need more power in a certain range - typically high performance exhausts are going to perform better in a certain range - but no matter what you will need to put the bike on a dyno to get maximum results.

Is it just for looks - then for me not worth the money - and again if it is for sound - just me - I don't like extra noise.

Heck my RR is not street legal and has never been on the street not 1 mile and I run stock exhaust - the only reason I would consider changing would be for weight reduction but many tracks today have such strict noise limits it's not worth the hassle.
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Re: Is ther Akrapovic worth it?

The Akra looks good and sounds nice. It isn't too loud by any stretch of the imagination, unless you remove the baffle, when it is loud and IMHO simply annoying. It's a lot of money to spend on saving a few pounds and maybe gaining 1 or 2 hp, when the bike has 170 odd at the crank to start with. I don't know if your bike has the forged wheels but again IMHO the forged wheels give you a distinct handling advantage which is of more use to you a couple of extra hp.
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Re: Is ther Akrapovic worth it?

Actually I am so deaf that any extra presently inaudible noise is bad for me.
I actually ride with ear plugs to reuce fatigue.

Only savings I can value are the weight reductions. Now forged wheels are they a OEM option or aftermarket?
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Re: Is ther Akrapovic worth it?

Ha ha only mentioned such to a.n.other a few days back,what you are witnessing is what happens with all bikes as they get older a decrease in secondhand aftermarket goodies,i’ve Seen the same with both my 1100s and my Tiger parts that you could buy quite readily become scarce as folks will not justify buying new on an old bike.

While i’d become used to the situation with the other two hadn’t noticed the same creeping up on the old K series until I too had been looking for a set of Akra headers,5 years ago a set would appear ever couple of weeks on eBay UK the same with the Akra end cans I paid £200 secondhand for mine off eBay You’ll be lucky to see one now never mind at that price.
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I'm a big fan of the Akra brand.. We've been selling them off and on for years along with Remus, Two Bros, and Staintune.. Had an Akra on one of my Ducatis. Top quality.. great customer service.. kinda over-priced, but most don't realize they actually mine their own titanium..That must add to the price..

On the K1300S.. I prefer the Remus which is smaller and IMHO..has about the same HP gain and weight loss.. sounds every bit as good..and is much cheaper.. My 2 doubloons.

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Re: Is ther Akrapovic worth it?

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.... I prefer the Remus ...
Ditto on the Remus.

KafkaKaffe, think of it this way, its not 150 a pound, its 10,000 grins.
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Re: Is ther Akrapovic worth it?

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Only savings I can value are the weight reductions. Now forged wheels are they a OEM option or aftermarket?

If your asking about forged wheels, you can afford a full exhaust system. The full system sheds a lot of weight (about 7kg) and the extra power noticable. Akro full system has no baffle, Arrow full system has a removable baffle.
Another easy 4kg off the bike is a lithium battery.
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Re: Is ther Akrapovic worth it?

Does this all really matter for street rid'n

Probably a few bottles of fine Scotch more worth the expense..
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Re: Is the Akrapovic worth it?

In a word, no. Worth & motorcycles aren't really two words you can put together in one sentence.

I have the full system on a K13.
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Big difference between sprung and unsprung weight as in 4 to 1.
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Re: Is the Akrapovic worth it?

After adding the cost, you may want to trade for a Motorsports version. Akro, HP rear sets, forged wheels, yada yada yada...
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Re: Is the Akrapovic worth it?

This is a principal reason I champion Electric motorcycle technology.

IMO aftermarket, performance exhaust systems are for when you bugger-up your OEM system in a crash.

Unless you're being paid the entire cost of the new/aftermarket system simply to R&R it IS NOT worth it.
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Re: Is the Akrapovic worth it?

Obviously appearance and melodious sound are not a concern to you.. I wish I were like that.. I'm serious. Almost without exception.. the oem exhaust is the FIRST thing I get rid of with any motorcycle I own and IMHO.. a beautiful, lightweight aftermarket exhaust is worth every penny.... My 2 doubloons..

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Obviously appearance and melodious sound are not a concern to you.. I wish I were like that.. I'm serious. Almost without exception.. the oem exhaust is the FIRST thing I get rid of with any motorcycle I own and IMHO.. a beautiful, lightweight aftermarket exhaust is worth every penny.... My 2 doubloons..

I'm with Jerry on this one, and have the Akra on my MS. I do like the ease of removal of their baffle, but seldom leave it out - as it's an easy auditory admission of guilt approaching a LEO from a distance on the BRP, for example...

But I prefer the sound of the Remus, every time...worth every penny
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Obviously appearance and melodious sound are not a concern to you.. I wish I were like that.. I'm serious. Almost without exception.. the oem exhaust is the FIRST thing I get rid of with any motorcycle I own and IMHO.. a beautiful, lightweight aftermarket exhaust is worth every penny.... My 2 doubloons..

My apologies to the manufacturers as well as retailers of these otherwise popular purchases. What you consider "melodious" (or not) I merely find readily indicative of my ongoing throttle abuse to every cop with ears.
As far as "appearance"? Too me the most attractive systems are the ones you don't see at all. KTM's RC8 comes to mind. Nothing to clean, polish, burn yourself/passenger with or easily damage.

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Sure ten pounds lost but its 150 a pound before tax and shipping.

Thye were stock on ne special model in one year were they not?
Yah never see em for cheap on ebay.
Not sure how it is on a BMW, though I purchased a full stainless header setup and can for the Busa and loved the sound, how well it fit, the looks, was worth the expense.... Cook in for a few nights this month, save some cash and do it ......- coming from a guy who eats out 6 nights a week )
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The original muffler is ugly and that is an understatement.

To change the rear tire you have to loosen and swivel the ugly thing out of the way.
With a nice oval unit the tire clears with out loosening the muffler and the whole thing even weights less.

Yah I could lose weight and make a bigger difference but I would still be ugly.
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Is it "worth" it? No, of course not. I would get lighter wheels first. But if you do - get the full system, don't bother with the slipon.
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Probably controversial here I know, but I actually think the standard can looks quite good, sounds quite good. The Akro on the other hand to my eyes looks pig ugly and it sounds nasty too. There, I've said it.
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Hey guys.... its ok to have a preference to appearance, it ok to like or not like the sound. Its ok to say that the power increases are/can be to small to notice. Its ok to say you wont notice 4kg gone from the exhaust area..(you will) , I found the carbon akro can that comes with the full system (it has no baffle) so loud and annoying, that i had my arrow (which has a baffle) modified to fit the akro headers. And im copping $hit fron the boys for it! Ha.
BUT, there is no denying when i first got my arrow exhaust (can only) and fitted it, it transformed the way the engine breathes between gear changes, and makes it easier to ride and change gears smoother. No remapping or commander or fancy plug. It turned an already amazing bike into something a bit better. I dont know if the other brands feel as good, i havnt ridden a bike with them, i have ridden k1300 with arrow and akro cans and they feel better than the stock can.
And if you still have the stock exhaust thats great, but it does get better!
I waited 3 years before i got my arrow, probably the most significant modification/improvement you can make to the K1300.
EDIT: i guess riding style comes into play here too, and if your just happy to putt around it might not be worth changing the exhaust.

My 2 cents..... prob 4 cents actually.....
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If you like the sound and look better than other exhausts....it's that simple.
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Fuck all these old guys . K1300S full akro, booster plug, k&n air filter, Wilber's shocks, carbon fiber farkles, hp rears and a smile on my face . Then again, I'm 35 and I wear ear plugs. Lol. Just kidding granddads of IBMW, you have great insite and knowledge. Dyno word on the street says stock to the wheel 143hp or so. With akro, booster and k&n, 174hp to the wheel . Don't know how true that is

But don't do it for the weight, lose 10lbs for cheaper. Don't do it for looks, someone else will think the stock is nicer. Don't do it for sound, someone is always going to complain. DO IT BECAUSE YOU WANT IT. It's your bike, your money, your ears, and your taste.

Listen on YouTube with headphones; that will give you a good idea of the sound. And if you want to spend money on something that will make you faster, suspension!

PS. I love the sound. Sometimes i ride 2nd just to head her scream!
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I had the Akra (BMW version with cat) when I bought my bike. Sold it and bought a Remus/RC Schnitzer slip on. Looks and sounds great for a ton less money than the Akra. I left the baffle in and IMHO it's sounds just right. A bit louder than stock but not obnoxious. Booster plug is also a good idea. If you can afford the forged HP wheels then more power to you.
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"Worth it" is such a loaded question. It is also a personal question. I'm not a huge fan of the Akro, but I wouldn't tear it off either. If I was putting a new exhaust on the bike I'd go with the Remus.
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Fuck all these old guys . K1300S full akro, booster plug, k&n air filter, Wilber's shocks, carbon fiber farkles, hp rears and a smile on my face . Then again, I'm 35 and I wear ear plugs. Lol. Just kidding granddads of IBMW, you have great insite and knowledge. Dyno word on the street says stock to the wheel 143hp or so. With akro, booster and k&n, 174hp to the wheel . Don't know how true that is

But don't do it for the weight, lose 10lbs for cheaper. Don't do it for looks, someone else will think the stock is nicer. Don't do it for sound, someone is always going to complain. DO IT BECAUSE YOU WANT IT. It's your bike, your money, your ears, and your taste.

Listen on YouTube with headphones; that will give you a good idea of the sound. And if you want to spend money on something that will make you faster, suspension!

PS. I love the sound. Sometimes i ride 2nd just to head her scream!

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Opinions are like ..... Well, you know the rest, Junior.

Many years ago I used to revel in driving up the steep hill on campus to the front of the school. Looking awesome. pop down from 2nd to 1st and let the thing ring at 9000 or so.
Pissed people off but no one took any action...........
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Quite an attractive pipe IMO Ducati and Akrapovic came up with for that new V4 Panigale.


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Which is which? I usually just walk by Duc's.
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a very nice bike that ducati but my insurer was my last resort and most ducatis are blacklisted

I can't understand why?

One thing I think we ALL emphatically agree upon is that a motorcycle NEEDS 200 rear wheel horsepower. it's a SAFETY feature.
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Re: Is the Akrapovic worth it?

Think of an insurance company as a bookie. You are placing a bet in the form of your premium that you will have an accident that they will pay for it. The house (insurance company) looks at all the variables to determine if they will have to pay at some point for your misdeeds. So - young rider, driving record, sport bike, 200 hp, history of accidents involving this cycle, parking location, and criminal activity in the area where you live are all considered. The bookies compute the odds of paying vs. the premiums you will pay. They will bet on you or refuse insurance. Simple. This bookie has decided that this motorcycle has a high probability of being in an accident or being stolen and refuses the bet. Legalized and sanctioned gambling at its finest.
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I had an Akra on my K1300S, but sold it as I didn't like the flared look and the sound wasn't up to much IMHO and baffle out was too much. I replaced it with a Remus (which I have had on all of my K bikes) and I much preferred it, even with baffle in.
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On my first KS (red and black), I could not handle that large chrome object hanging on an otherwise painted cycle. I sent the muffler and mounting strap to Jet Hot Coating and had it ceramic coated to match the frame. That dark may not work as well on a light colored cycle, but met my requirements on that one. You are not stuck with polished stainless.
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Re: Is the Akrapovic worth it?

It's all in how you look at it

If you want to justify a full Ti system and more carbon fibre parts, calculate the cost PER MILE!

$3000 USD for an exhaust is cheap at 60K miles. That's only 5 cents a mile to be looking good.
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It's all in how you look at it

If you want to justify a full Ti system and more carbon fibre parts, calculate the cost PER MILE!

$3000 USD for an exhaust is cheap at 60K miles. That's only 5 cents a mile to be looking good.

I live in Socialist occupied Commiefornia where American citizens are forced to pay userous taxes and fees for every mile we operate a motor vehicle so that illegal immigrants can collect welfare. I'm not so concerned about "looking good" where only .01% looking would be able to distinguish it from a Harley or a Ducati or a friggin Zero electric motorcycle.

Oh well; I once had a stepdaughter who after being informed I was buying her a new Yamaha mini bike was more excited and obsessed about a $15 'safety/visibility flag' being installed.
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