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View Poll Results: Commuting isn't riding?
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Old 01-29-2009, 11:04 AM
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Commuting isn't riding?

I jokingly tell my other riding friends who like to commute that commuting isn't riding, not really. Riding, REAL riding is getting out of the city.
Should the mileage you accrue on the way to a job, performing errands truly count towards 'riding'?

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Re: Commuting isn't riding?

While it is easy to be a hero and claim to be the world's best rider on a road that you know every curve and dip and have ridden many times. True skill is required to avoid and survive the cell phone lady, road rage teenager, drunk redneck, don't give a crap taxi drivers, not paying attention truck drivers. parts falling off cars and bike eating potholes encountered on a daily basis during a commute.
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Re: Commuting isn't riding?

Not only is it riding, it's showing your co-workers how tuff you are!
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Re: Commuting isn't riding?

For some it is the only chance they get to enjoy their bike on a weekly basis. Myself included in that statement. I only put 3500 miles on my bike last summer (got it in June) and i enjoyed every minute of it even though most of it was riding to work.
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Re: Commuting isn't riding?

Depends on the commute. My commute sucks, so I never ride to work.

However, if you had 50 miles of twisties to get to work, that would be riding.
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Re: Commuting isn't riding?

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.. Should the mileage you accrue on the way to a job, performing errands truly count towards 'riding'?..
Yes, but I decided several years ago that it isn't worth it. Three main reasons not to do it, none having to do with weather.
  1. When you get to work, you're supposed to stop riding.
  2. Commuters in cars are NOT paying any attention to their driving.
  3. At 2 dollars a gallon a 20mpg vehicle is just as cheap as a 44 mpg bike that eats 300 dollar sets of tires every 5000 miles. Really.
Now for track days .... I still say a 500 mile day in the rain will teach you more brake and throttle control than a day on a nice clean track.
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Re: Commuting isn't riding?

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While it is easy to be a hero and claim to be the world's best rider on a road that you know every curve and dip and have ridden many times.
That's correct, and would describe a true one-dimensional rider. But the ultimate display of arrogance, lack of riding skill, and betrayal of trust is to go down with 2-up, when you've been entrusted with the life of a loved one.
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Re: Commuting isn't riding?

I am torn... I commute nearly daily, have ridden in sub-freezing temps, etc... I often decide that I should make the 17 mile trip become 50+ miles when I find the day hospitable or need to think. However, I also go on longer rides. It is not commuting so much, I know several people who do not commute but ride their motorcycles to a bar and socialize with other motorcyclists before returning home... this to me makes a person less of a "rider" than those that only ride daily to and from work. "riding" to me indicates more of your love for the ride over the love of the lifestyle (riding to a bar, being part of a group, etc...). A person who rides at every opportunity, using any errand or trip as an excuse to take the bike in the absence of having time to make a dedicated ride is more of a rider than the guy who takes the motorcycle out on the nice sunny days once every couple of weeks and never commutes.
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Re: Commuting isn't riding?

I have an 80 mile commute every day, 30 of those miles are hiway the rest are nice back roads. So my commute is interesting for the most part. There are two different sets of roads i can take so i take one in and one home.
The longer rides wait for Vaca or a free weekend which don't come around to often, so i take what time i can get on the bike.
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Re: Commuting isn't riding?

Depends on your commute. I work at diff jobs sites every week. Some rides into work have been great. However, this last year I have been riding to work mostly on the highway. That's really my only chance to ride. So I put the bike up for sale. So it depends on the cummute.
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Re: Commuting isn't riding?

I put on 20,000 miles annually on my commute...80 miles a day....every day is a little different, depending on the cage idiots. I still make sure to get twisty practice on the weekends. Too much highway riding can dull those skills.
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I think commuting is definately riding... as long as you wear your ass-less chaps and leather vest around the office all day. No kidding, I work for a large insurance company and I see this guy often during the day in the halls and break rooms with his "leathers" on. He rides a black Softail to work. I know, you don't believe me. I'll try to snap a picture this summer.
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Re: Commuting isn't riding?

It's definitely riding in my book. Unfortunately that's what I do most of these days. I try to ride every day to work unless the roads are wet and temperatures are near freezing or below. Otherwise my 32 mile round trip commute still gives me time to enjoy my bike.
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Re: Commuting isn't riding?

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I think commuting is definately riding... as long as you wear your ass-less chaps and leather vest around the office all day. No kidding, I work for a large insurance company and I see this guy often during the day in the halls and break rooms with his "leathers" on. He rides a black Softail to work. I know, you don't believe me. I'll try to snap a picture this summer.

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Re: Commuting isn't riding?

Commuting is riding. It is definitely not the same thing as being in a cage. It can be challenging at this time of year where I live because we deal with a huge influx of snow birds. These idiots, with no place to go, clog the roads and become a nuisance. It is like driving in a moving mine field.

But anyway, it is absolutely riding.
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Its not the best riding as it is followed by work but its better than not riding.
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sorry but commuting on my old air head without any electrics 20 miles to work at 5am in 17 degree weather was riding start working out that windchill at 90mph.
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Re: Commuting isn't riding?

This topic is completely subjective depending upon each person's definition of "riding". The term "commuting", to me conjures up images of freeway and city riding with lots of traffic. It requires operating the motorcycle with a special kind of survival skills to navigate this type of mine field... it is sometimes necessary, but it is certainly not my idea of fun. To me, riding is getting off of the freeways and city streets and exploring roads less travelled... remote, scenic, winding country roads... places where I can decide to turn up the pace and raise the adrenaline level, or take a leisurely relaxing ride through the countryside. They are two completely different types of riding requiring different skills, but I ride for fun, not transportation... and commuting is not my idea of fun... YMMV...
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Its not the best riding as it is followed by work but its better than not riding.

But I think the ride home is the most satisfying. I find myself subject to road rage after a days work and all the other q-tips (old people where you can only see the white head poking about the seatback) driving slowly and clogging up traffic. On the bike I find myself relaxed (but alert), enjoying the weather (except in summer when the heat is up and I'm sitting in traffic).
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Re: Commuting isn't riding?

Wow, that would be over 20000 miles a year of not riding! It's true that there may be BETTER riding, but I love the RS every time I'm on it, even just commuting.
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It is riding, and in my case, it can get you exclusive use of that HOV lane, sometimes, but that's always great when you can get it.
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Re: Commuting isn't riding?

yeah in the city being able to use HOV lanes would be a plus, but as to what charlie alluded to, commuting in a big city def hones survials skills on a bike , back when I commuted across austin daily The stretch of I 35 was the deadliest road in the country from San antonio up to waco, def a place to keep you on your toes and develope quick reaction times.
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yeah in the city being able to use HOV lanes would be a plus, but as to what charlie alluded to, commuting in a big city def hones survials skills on a bike , back when I commuted across austin daily The stretch of I 35 was the deadliest road in the country from San antonio up to waco, def a place to keep you on your toes and develope quick reaction times.

As we say in Phoenix, on the 101 that's not the speed limit, but on the 51, that's not even half...

Yes, it hones survival skills, and the 51 is also left-right and up-down, fun. That's my route, and I have actually been flashed and honked at doing 85 in a 65, as not fast enough in the HOV. Then again, I have buzzed a few.
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When I used to commute in the Dallas/Ft.Worth area, the cagers scared the crap out of me often enough I gave it up. I now only ride for pleasure.
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Other than errands, I ride all I can. If that means going to work, so what. The ride in is nice, but the ride home is always great. Freedom, roads to myself. I work second shift. I take all I can get.
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This topic is completely subjective depending upon each person's definition of "riding". The term "commuting", to me conjures up images of freeway and city riding with lots of traffic. It requires operating the motorcycle with a special kind of survival skills to navigate this type of mine field... it is sometimes necessary, but it is certainly not my idea of fun. To me, riding is getting off of the freeways and city streets and exploring roads less travelled... remote, scenic, winding country roads... places where I can decide to turn up the pace and raise the adrenaline level, or take a leisurely relaxing ride through the countryside. They are two completely different types of riding requiring different skills, but I ride for fun, not transportation... and commuting is not my idea of fun... YMMV...
I guess it depends on the commute. My commute takes me through 30 miles of very scenic countryside and ends with a ride over the 6-mile Bay Bridge and the view of San Francisco. I never tire of the smell of the ocean as I near the city. Sure, there's traffic, but lane sharing takes care of that. It's fun and invigorating every day.....great way to start and end the day.
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I guess it depends on the commute. My commute takes me through 30 miles of very scenic countryside and ends with a ride over the 6-mile Bay Bridge and the view of San Francisco. I never tire of the smell of the ocean as I near the city. Sure, there's traffic, but lane sharing takes care of that. It's fun and invigorating every day.....great way to start and end the day.

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Re: Commuting isn't riding?

I commute everyday I can until the snow and ice make it too unsafe.
Granted it's only a 3 mile commute into work each morning.
But what's really odd it's almost always a 50 mile commute on the way home.
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I guess it depends on the commute. My commute takes me through 30 miles of very scenic countryside and ends with a ride over the 6-mile Bay Bridge and the view of San Francisco. I never tire of the smell of the ocean as I near the city. Sure, there's traffic, but lane sharing takes care of that. It's fun and invigorating every day.....great way to start and end the day.
You're fortunate... I think your situation falls into its own category, not commuting, but "riding to work". I completely agree with you, and that would give a different meaning to "commuting"...
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Re: Commuting isn't riding?

I'm lucky. My trip to work is 24 miles one way on the curving, two lane road that most other bikers come to ride on the weekend. There are days when I leave home and make it all the way to work without getting behind anyone. I arrive happy. There are times I want don't want a weekend ride after a week of commuting on the bike.

I'm suffering from riding withdrawal right now because the deer season and bad weather lately. Should be about to get back into the saddle this week if the ice goes away.
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I think it all comes back to the old addage, ride your own ride. I commute on the super slab, and enjoy some of the challenges posed by those that sit in cages darting in and out of the HOV lanes.

Most days, the best part of my day is my ride, who cares if it is is a commute, it is getting out on two wheels and constantly learning from the challenges of crowded roadways. Pretty much the worst day riding is better than the best day driving.

And yes, I did enjoy the ride yesterday and today in the snow!
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I think it all comes back to the old addage, ride your own ride. I commute on the super slab, and enjoy some of the challenges posed by those that sit in cages darting in and out of the HOV lanes.

Most days, the best part of my day is my ride, who cares if it is is a commute, it is getting out on two wheels and constantly learning from the challenges of crowded roadways. Pretty much the worst day riding is better than the best day driving.

And yes, I did enjoy the ride yesterday and today in the snow!

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As does commuting in Phoenix, where the slogan for AZ 101 is, "that's not the speed limit" usually followed with "idiot".
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If you "drive" your bike than thats not riding....
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By definition driving is something you do with a cage or a truck. Any time you straddle a bike, it is riding. That's the distinguishing feature of one to the other.
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when i lived in lexington i could get to mt sterling on any of 3 roads, 32 miles (i-64, us 60 and a combo of 60, 53 and 460) had some fun riding to work. going home 'could' be a 2 hour adventure....if i hurried. so to me commuting is all in how you do it.
oh i almost forgot - -- commuting is riding to me.
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when i lived in lexington i could get to mt sterling on any of 3 roads, 32 miles (i-64, us 60 and a combo of 60, 53 and 460) had some fun riding to work. going home 'could' be a 2 hour adventure....if i hurried. so to me commuting is all in how you do it.
oh i almost forgot - -- commuting is riding to me.

Thanks for this. I even commuted (rode) to work today. And with me in Phoenix, you may not want to know about our weather, but today's is glorious, indeed.



That HOV lane looked pretty good this morning, but I know it'll be much better on the way home (it always is here).
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I save the rubber for the open road: nuthin' like toolin' from one new town into another one!
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I do plenty of that too, but the more riding, the merrier...
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Throw your leg over, light it off, twist the go button. If the rubber side stays down, you're riding.
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Pretty much the worst day riding is better than the best day driving.

I agree and ride just about any day that I can get off the mountain.
VA clay road + water + street tires =

I commute 100miles a day and I have a choice between super slab and country roads then the HOV begins just when the cages start to pile up.

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There is nothing which brackets the work day so well as the ride in and the ride home.

...Got backroads 'tween home and work, and coffee aint near as eye opening as breaking the ton a few times before the grind begins. Yeah, it's riding.
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I don't commute to work on my motorcycle, I ride to work on my motorcycle. If riding to work doesn't put you in a different place mentally then maybe you commute to work.
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I don't commute to work on my motorcycle, I ride to work on my motorcycle. If riding to work doesn't put you in a different place mentally then maybe you commute to work.

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I don't get paid enough to "commute" to work so when I take the bike I ride and when I take the car I drive. Either way I have about 20 mi of beautiful scenery each way.
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I don't get paid enough to "commute" to work so when I take the bike I ride and when I take the car I drive. Either way I have about 20 mi of beatiful scenery each way.
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Love that avatar! Well said.

I consider no matter where I go, when I throw my right leg over that bike of mine, it is always riding.
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While it is easy to be a hero and claim to be the world's best rider on a road that you know every curve and dip and have ridden many times. True skill is required to avoid and survive the cell phone lady, road rage teenager, drunk redneck, don't give a crap taxi drivers, not paying attention truck drivers. parts falling off cars and bike eating potholes encountered on a daily basis during a commute.

As I ride everyday I can to work, I completely agree.
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Re: Commuting isn't riding?

I never really thought of riding to work as commutting. I ride because I like to ride. I ride almost everyday 10 months of the year. I don't ride to work because I save money on gas, I ride to work because I like to ride.

I don't ride all the great roads in my neck of the woods on weekends over and over because I am still trying to find my way around, I ride them because I like to ride.

I never really thought of riding as my weekend hobby, I need to go places all the time like work or my favorite ride, the ride after work before dinner just to blow off steam, I ride because I like to ride.

I don't care why you ride or how much you ride but I sincerely hope you ride because you like to ride.

All this nonsense about who is or isn't a real biker or rider, who cares, I love motorcycles, always have and most likely always will.

Ride to work, commute to work, go for a ride around the world and back, take a ride for an hour before you strangle your teenager, go down to your local watering hole and have a beer, ride a Vespa, ride an HD or rider a Beemer who cares, just get out there and ride and I just bet you are my type of person.

So there you have it, I ride because I like to, when I am old and feeble I hope you catch me riding around the nursing home parking lot.
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If I had a job where I could ride to work, I probably wouldn't. I take that time to have
a mug of coffee and get caught up on the news. We live in the country on a road that
commuters travel. I can't imagine myself out in that.

I guess if you're up on two wheels then you're "riding". Call it that if you want, but
around here "riding" is: pass everything you come up on, goin' no place
special, just me 'n the road, spirited tire trashing.

Last year I ashamed to say I only put 3500 miles with the RS, but it did go through a set
of tires in that time. Did again that many with the Tiger mostly on back roads.

So to me commuting would not be riding.
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If I had a job where I could ride to work, I probably wouldn't. I take that time to have
a mug of coffee and get caught up on the news. We live in the country on a road that
commuters travel. I can't imagine myself out in that.

I guess if you're up on two wheels then you're "riding". Call it that if you want, but
around here "riding" is: pass everything you come up on, goin' no place
special, just me 'n the road, spirited tire trashing.

Last year I ashamed to say I only put 3500 miles with the RS, but it did go through a set
of tires in that time. Did again that many with the Tiger mostly on back roads.

So to me commuting would not be riding.

Too bad for you, you have to "pass everything you come up on, goin' no place special, just me 'n the road, spirited tire trashing" for that experience to be "riding". While, I do all or some of these on any commute from my home to my workplace or any other ride, it's unfortunate you cannot partake in calling any time you throw that leg over the bike and take it out as "riding".

Granted there are always some "rides" that are better than others, but that does not make each encounter with a motorcycle, anything more or less than "riding." Yet, it's clearly all riding no matter where we are going - it's how we get there that counts.
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I've got a 30 mile one-way commute to work in Northern VA. I ride from Manassas to Springfield, VA, most of which is on some nice twisties through Clifton, VA. I can change up the routes on the twisties enough to keep it interesting. No interstates whatsoever. I work a six week cycle of rotating shift work, so that means riding at night sometimes. If my "commute" doesn't "count as riding", then we'll just have to respectfully agree to disagree. Hell, I drive my 2009 Mini Cooper on the same routes. Interstate travel just sucks in No. VA at any time.
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i havent & would not

i agree it would probably be mentally uplifting

if the ride was interesting & not a bump & grind

otherwise i wouldnt do that to me bike......................ever
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I never had a 4 wheel vehicle licensed in the summer for 20 years, always rode to work.....and back!
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I think commuting is definately riding... as long as you wear your ass-less chaps and leather vest around the office all day. No kidding, I work for a large insurance company and I see this guy often during the day in the halls and break rooms with his "leathers" on. He rides a black Softail to work. I know, you don't believe me. I'll try to snap a picture this summer.

And I am sure he only rides when the weather is perfect. But I do have a question, can you tell me the difference between ass- less chaps and regular chaps? ALL CHAPS ARE ASS-LESS. If they weren't the would be pants.

I ride to work everyday ... rain or shine, cold or hot, always ATTGATT and change into "proper office attire" when I get in. I also get to use the car pool lane which turns a 40 minute commute into a 15 minute commute.
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Commuting on the K is more fun than the cage, but other than the constant death threats, it doesn't quite fit my definition of riding.
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I know how you feel but you need to find a route aqnd time that doesn't get to you. I leave the Ballard area about 6:30 and ride to Tukwila Via Hwy 99. It's really not bad in the morning or afternoon.

People in Wa. are not bike aware. It can be scarey at times.

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It is riding, and in my case, it can get you exclusive use of that HOV lane, sometimes, but that's always great when you can get it.

I've tried using the HOV lane to commute to work before, and it's still a nightmare. The speed limit on the I-95 HOV lanes in Northern VA is 65mph. The REAL speed limit is at least 80mph. To keep the cages away from me, I have to do 80++mph. When I do, that just makes me the the lead dog for a bunch of crazy cagers, no matter what they're driving. Get stopped for speeding over 90mph in VA, and you'd better have packed a toothbrush, 'cause you're going to jail. Riding stops being fun when it's being done under the aforementioned circumstances, whether you're commuting to work, or headed off on a three-week road trip. It's just not worth the aggravation. I'll stick to my 30-mile ride through the twisties, thanks.
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We have some of those same HOV issues here. Want to know what fixed them?

In the inner city, the 65 mph speed limit goes to 55. A quarter mile after that speed limit change is a speed cam. All of those cages nearly hit each other trying to slow down for it. All the while, I shift down 1 or 2 and rarely ever brake, and start wiggling over 4 lanes because 1/2-3/4 miles after the change is my work street exit. That makes the commute quite managable. Meanwhile, my Zumo is ding-dinging at me to mind that speed cam.

I can't say I like them, but I do like that one.
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