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Old 06-18-2011, 11:29 PM
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Re: So do ya work on em or pay others to do it.

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Old 10-23-2011, 11:24 AM
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Re: So do ya work on em or pay others to do it.

Some of us lack the expertise to do much to a bike besides switching out a slip on Remus or doing other simple tasks like an oil change.
Kudos to all you mechanically minded riders.

Must admit that the vacuum pump was wonderful to use to remove the oil faster. Still got nice and greasy.


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Old 11-24-2011, 09:26 AM
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Some of us lack the expertise to do much to a bike besides switching out a slip on Remus or doing other simple tasks like an oil change.
Kudos to all you mechanically minded riders.

Must admit that the vacuum pump was wonderful to use to remove the oil faster. Still got nice and greasy.


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Old 11-25-2011, 09:17 PM
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Re: So do ya work on em or pay others to do it.

I'm in the middle of some fun right now.... and its working out OK since I can't ride to the new job which is on a construction site on a dirt road. (read MUD and nails)

So I'm adding heated grips with a troller, finishing my other 2 troller installations for the jacket and gloves, 24k service with all fluids and air/fuel filter and valve adjustment (two tight exhaust valves), brake and clutch bleed, and I'll probably change brake pads while I'm at it.

I simply couldn't afford this bike, or any for that matter, if I didn't do this myself.


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Re: So do ya work on em or pay others to do it.

Hi. Iv got a red 2000 K1200rs. Had0 it since 05. Great bike. Only on 86000KM. I do most of mymaintenance and servicing.
Recently had a electrical problem where the electric fan came on as soon as the ignition was switched on and the bike was hard starting. Took it to agents where they (I suspect) miss informed me where to look 4 the problem. They said temp sensor on its way out. And said it was on the front timing cover. And me knowing a bit about electrics had a look. Well that was the wrong sensor. There is another behind the ignition coil. Its plug had pulled out of the harness
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Old 12-14-2011, 08:06 AM
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Re: So do ya work on em or pay others to do it.

Sciroccodrivr writes,
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I simply couldn't afford this bike, or any for that matter, if I didn't do this myself.

Me too, but I love the bike and getting to know how it works is fun and SO good to find out....

All the best for the holidays folks

Thanks for the great site and good forums

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Re: So do ya work on em or pay others to do it.

Did a fair amount of my own service when I had airheads. Got the LT and was intimidated. Just got the RS and have only changed the oil.

When I took a small engine course as a teen, I had parts left over after reassembly....has caused me to question the wisdom of working on my bikes.

I also like to support my excellent dealer, Mathias BMW, New Philadelphia, Ohio. I have had five dealers close their doors...three of them would good. I have had nothing but great experiences my current dealer and will spend a little more to keep him in business.
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Re: So do ya work on em or pay others to do it.

I no longer do any because I got sick of paying the dealer to fix what I screwed up. It was costing me double as I'd have to pay to fix my screw up and pay for it then to be done right.
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Re: So do ya work on em or pay others to do it.

I enjoy doing as much as I can. It can get frustrating when the right tool isn't available (especially on the BMWs), but it's a good feeling knowing exactly what was done to the bike. Even if I screwed it up.
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Re: So do ya work on em or pay others to do it.

I just started my winter project on the red sled. New shox (Yacugar's), steering dampener (Hyper-pro), all the filters, all the fluids, valves, adding another powerlet, "lubing" spline, plugs, new brake pads and front wheel bearings. Other than the shox, dampener and bearings, these items usually make it on the "to-do" list for the sled every winter. It's our winter bonding before having to put her battery on the tender for a couple of months. A few of these items probably don't need to be done, but I'd hate to have to wait to the last moment before the weather starts warming up and I miss an ideal day to be on the sled. The one thing that takes the longest is simply pulling off and putting on all the tupperware, although I'll probably take the front wheel into the stealership for the bearings. There's always been something to fix, add or "improve" every winter since taking ownership, I can't imagine how much I would have spent if I let the stealer do everything.
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:21 AM
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I'm a do-it-yourself guy, partly because I like it and partly due to necessity. Living on a somewhat remote ranch it's hard to get someone out here. I've learned welding, carpentry, wiring, mechanics and veterinary work and enjoy buying the tools to do it. The newer stuff has me in a bind now, with the computer technology in everything I find myself up against a wall working on vehicles and resort too often to hauling it in. The closest BMW dealer is 150 miles away but I'm not about to attempt anything more than oil changes and tire troubles on it so off we go... and the break from work is nice anyway.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:17 PM
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Re: So do ya work on em or pay others to do it.

Every time I put the wrench to my bikes... I just figure I paid myself $90 an hour!
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Yup, true enough but every day I eat my own cooking, I figure I save 10 bucks. But there are times...
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:36 PM
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Re: So do ya work on em or pay others to do it.

I've owned quite a few bikes over just the last few years. At first, I was a bit intimidated about wrenching. But... owning my 2009 KTM 990 Adventure cured me of that pretty damned quickly. I now have the confidence I need to tackle most jobs. Hell... if I get in over my head, you boys will help pull me out, right?
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Old 07-28-2013, 11:17 AM
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Re: So do ya work on em or pay others to do it.

You can't have a dealership or some other party do it all and say it's "your bike". And the "service intervals" reccommended by manufacturers are there to keep their delerships solidly in the black.

Over the last 30 years I've watched the automotive/motorcycle industry more than quadruple the cost of service as well as the systems requiring service. Odd seeing as that everything is advertised as a maintanence or cost saving improvement.


Try riding your bike 150+ miles a day, 5 days a week for a couple of years. You'll soon discover what service is truly regularly needed, and which is designed to profiteer from.
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I do everything I can because it is;

1. Economical
2. Educational
3. Fun
4. Helpful should things go wrong when I'm far from home
5. Comforting to know what's going on with the machine
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I change the oils, lubricants, plugs, brakes services, minor electrical, some gaskets and seals and I made racks for my bikes.

Replacing seals/gasket.



After new gasket

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Wow, 43% of all
Owners do everything on their bikes.
Either we are a special abled lot, or BMW sucks at service/cost.
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Wow, 43% of all
Owners do everything on their bikes.
Either we are a special abled lot, or BMW sucks at service/cost.

Prolly a little of both. Have you donated? Silly question, I know, because you're 'mondrage' handle isn't a real color yet.. like 'blue'.
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Prolly a little of both. Have you donated? Silly question, I know, because you're 'mondrage' handle isn't a real color yet.. like 'blue'.

Geez Bear, I have no choice now, do I? I don't want to look like a cheapo freeloader surfing on the shoulders of the cool i-BMW community, right?

BTW, I didn't see the place to put my username, but I just donated.

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I'm learning at a pretty fast rate, the value of learning to do some of my own wrenching. I haven't gotten into the mechanical stuff yet because the bike is brand new. After getting barreled on labor by my dealership for a fuse block and dual air horn installation (700 Bucks!), it forced me to get brave quickly and do all the accessory stuff on my own since then including cutting my fairings for my Slider install! When the bike is ready, I'll probably start with my first oil change and then my brakes. At some point, I'll probably invest in one of those GS911 "doodads" to reset my own service codes. Want to avoid the dealer as much as possible for non-warranty stuff.

This thread raises a very good sub-topic.. It troubles me that dealerships charge as much as they do for simple things just because they know that there are people who will pay regardless if it is highway robbery or not.. What happened to building relationships with customers so that you not only get repeat business, but their referrals as well?
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Depends on the bike and the task at hand. I don't really enjoy working on bikes but hate paying for something I can do myself too. With simpler bikes I do almost everything but this GT is a little complex for me, to be perfectly honest, so I imagine I'll bite the bullet and let the dealership do most of the work. I'm fortunate to have two excellent dealerships in range so it's just a case of bending over and taking it like a man.


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Beer removes the complexity and the need for a torque wrench.
When finished, the "extra parts" don't bother you either.
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My dealer is 2 miles away, and I am so friendly with the Service Manager he grants me 20% off parts and labor.

That because of a lemoned 2007 F800S his dyno finally showed. It would shut off and lock the rear wheel after about 2 hours. I got to know him well with that.
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Beer removes the complexity and the need for a torque wrench.
When finished, the "extra parts" don't bother you either.

I like the above quote.... I would not know anything about that situation though....
I use to do all my own wrenching on everything I owned for the satisfaction of doing it. But I now have to commute long distance (job lost) and my time at home is just too valuable to spend hours working on the bikes. I have a good dealer I trust and I give them my money.
If I lost this job I would have to go back to doing the majority of the jobs myself and I would get a GS 911. I think I would be happier doing the work myself if I was home every night but I am probably happier overall having a good job...
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Beer removes the complexity and the need for a torque wrench.
When finished, the "extra parts" don't bother you either.

You're doing good if you can multi-task; drink beer AND work on the bike! I'm starting to feel the years of having added my carbon paw-prints to the demise of Planet Earth, scheduled for next week if you are watching The WX Channel. Those motorcycles are the scourge of atmospheric decay.

It is not the body, but the old school brain cells don't adjust to the new techno-crap as well as expected. So... the beer, a few Killian's, numb the desire to learn new stuff, a definite pain reliever when saving the gray matter.

Left over parts? It is always good to have spares around and they save you money!
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Ha Ha ... you aircraft dudes are funny... and I thought it was just me.

Nowadays having a "job" is just a state of mind. I have a looong commute too and revamping my K1200s kicked my time-clock butt. Hence, the multitasking.
"I'm running out of time...should I fetch the torque thingy? Naaa, just give it a twist like the old man use to say".

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Yes having a job is a state of mind.... A good state....
I commute on a 15 hour flight to the eastern hemisphere so working on bikes when home is not appealing like it use to be. I have tried but I am just not motivated with all the other things I miss from being gone.
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I do the small services etc. but it's easier to work the extra hours and pay for the large service. And that way I know it's probably done right.
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When I was younger I would never let anyone touch my bikes or cars. I just don't want to work on vehicles anymore. I have earned my mechanic badge many times over and have nothing to prove. I just want to push the button and enjoy. I could be riding instead off working on my bike when I have the time. Richard.
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Been wrenching since my first Honda 70. The only thing I haven't ventured into head on is a failing automatic transmission. I really hate to pay someone for something I can do myself. Front wheel bearing went on my PT cruiser. Have an extended warranty 10 year 150K miles with a $250 deductible. Bearing was $21. Went out and bought a good floor jack and a hydraulic press and an angle grinder to do the work for less than the $250 it would have cost me to take it in. Made the press fittings from scrap. Still, I am not sure I have the stuff to do my final drive. I may send that off to someone who knows what they are doing and be done with that when the time comes. Clutch, o-ring and seals are on my radar for this winter as i have no idea and if I take it apart for inspection, I am just gonna do it.
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I do all the repairs and maintenance to My Bike.

This my come a a big surprise and I think we need a poll to see how many else do.
I do my own riding. Yes it's true I am the rider. I don't pay anyone to ride my bike.


I've been thinking of hiring someone to scrub out the chicken strips on my tires!!!
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I've had 3 BMW cars, none now as I was given a company vehicle. One thing I notice from wrenching on those is evident already on the K12... Everything is what it must be, no more and no less. Love the engineering.
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I recently came back to the BMW Riding community after a 30 year hiatus, so just staying upright has been my major concern!

But, I purchased a 2012 RT and realized that some local wrenching is required since my dealer is 80 miles away. I build custom bicycles and wrench on anything with 2 wheels and no motor so even though I am mechanically inclined, I have never been a 'mechanic' so to speak.

I have recently started taking an interest in the basics like oil changes and filters and tires. Seems none of the local bike shops in my area can balance the rear wheel, so after much internet searching, i ran across this site and a clever use of PVC tubing to balance the rear wheel!

I may purchase a service manual soon so do some more advanced work, but for now my next project is installing a bluetooth transmitter to go along with my new Sena 10U helmet system so i can get the wunderwheel to work with the stock radio.
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i let the dealer do everything as i need to be sure the bike is safe and the dealer always does a full health check and lets me know if anything needs looking at so basically i just put fuel in and top up levels the dealer does the rest and i get it serviced when the bike tells me to
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i let the dealer do everything as i need to be sure the bike is safe and the dealer always does a full health check and lets me know if anything needs looking at so basically i just put fuel in and top up levels the dealer does the rest and i get it serviced when the bike tells me to

You should still look over your own bike, just to double-check the dealer's service department. So far, my dealer has done all of the service work on my K1300S (other than tire changes and I replaced the air filters). However, after its 24,000 mile service, when the service department marked the brakes as OK without any comments, at 26,000 miles I was changing the rear tire and checked the brakes before a trip that was going to include some "brisk" riding that would be using the brakes a lot. The OE rear brake pads were fine, but the OE front brake pads were worn down to about 1 mm on the inside pads. I changed them out myself.

Lesson: Always a good idea to give your bike your own walk-around, even if you let someone else do your service and repairs.
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Tell about the $150 outlay...
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Tell about the $150 outlay...

What $150 outlay?
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Words of wisdom:

I always wrench on my bikes. My dad was a mechanic for 40 years and taught me a few things. But the reason I dont have my beautiful KRS anymore is b/c I thought I was smarter than the BMW engineers.....

I replaced the steering damper and decided that it was WAY too much trouble to put locktight back on the front bolt. Three years later, bolt backed out and hung on fork brace.


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OK GUYS!!!??? I have always wrenched on my bikes. But since the divorce I have been living in this really nice apartment and they frown on oil spots in the parking garage.

Soooooooo, I took the K13s to the Stealership for the 24k mile service. oil, filter, 2 air filters, everything else topped off. $650.00 USD!!??

Is that the standard? I almost shit myself.
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Bobo505, add a 100 + here in CA
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I don't count machine shop bills... The last time I laid out big bucks was in the winter of '79 when I sent my Suzuki GS1000 engine to Pops Yoshimura and said that I wanted to go fast. He asked, "how fast?" We compromised. I'm thinking that mill might get a big bore kit from Wiseco and hit the asphalt yet again. As for my BMW, the great blue and white whale has designs on my wallet. She's my first computer bike, and I picked a doozy. I went so far as to load it onto the trailer for a trip to MPLS, but ordered a GS911 instead. I'm guessing I can just add the cost of the scanner to my future shop bill. I dropped the Aprilia (funny, but I don't think of it as a computer bike) on the ice a couple of days ago, trying to get it into the shop, said a bad word, or two. Just ordered a stainless full exhaust from the guys at Ripple Rock in Canada for the Suzuki GS1150EF, I'll fab the brackets and mount it myself. Change my own tires on a No Mar machine, $600 bucks, and it works just like it oughta. I've been building small (LA) block MOPAR and AMC motors for awhile, and am a former SnapOn dealer, so have stuff... Two MIG welders, a TIG/ stick, a plasma torch, Sand blast cab, etc. Former aircraft electrician, and plant engineer. If I'd majored in finance, or made it into law school I might be paying... But then, I would have had reserved seats at Grateful Dead concerts and ride a HD.
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I am a strong believer that stealerships are titled that for a very prevelant reason and growing up, we hardly ever took a car to a shop or a dealer. The only times was when my father cooked the transmission in his Diplomat, twice lololo and then when the transmission in my mother's old 325i cooked out. Other than that, we did not take vehicles in because I was taught to work on my own vehicle.

I've not had a challenging job yet, really, but I know I will get into one in time. As for my bike I have not done anything hard. I anticipate the work that I need to do to the clutch will be more tedious and time consuming but I have this forum and the service manual to assist me.

I don't trust stealerships. I called there yesterday to see about a bulb for the turn indicator. I was on the line for a good spell while the person had to find it and then had to find it again to find that he didn't have it. It seems the quality has lessened as of late. So I stay away.

Even with my truck, I never took that thing anywhere near a Chevrolet stealerships, lolol. My truck never knew it came from one BWAHAHAH but my BMW K12R on the otherhand, has had work done which I did not feel up to what I believe BMW standard and hence why, with my experience growing up and truck, will do what I can with what I got.
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I not understand yet but I like my K12RS... I always build something or amplifiers or loudspeakers... Steel I'm not sure what can go wrong on my BMW but I have tools and I like to fix. I must search what are weak points on my bmw (23.jun 1997) and check them. Where can I upload PDF file (52MB 1997-2004 service manual)
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I have tools and a garage, but I bought my BMW with the idea that I wanted to ride it, not work on it. If I have to work on it a lot...I'll buy a Japanese bike that is more reliable.

For the past 10 years, I've been commuting up and down I-5 in Seattle. Rain or shine, the only time I don't ride is when there's snow falling or will fall.

My standard procedure is to bring the bike into the garage dripping wet after commuting in the rain for an hour. Get my laptop off the bike and walk inside the house. The next morning, walk outside, get on the bike and commute in the rain for an hour. Repeat.

My other bikes held up to that just fine. If this BMW can't...I'll fix it once, and find a bike that will.

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I just completed my first 18k service on my 2010 K13S. I have always done my own maintenance and repairs but those were older and simpler bikes. I came from a '94 CBR1000F which is Jurassic Park compared to the K13. The electronics and special tools required is a little off-putting for someone that is more KISS leaning, however I understand I need to get in this decade at some point.
The equipment I maintain professionally has many built in diagnostics and we interrogate and test with laptops and software, so in the broad sense, really not that different, except it's on my dime. I will say this bike is more difficult to work on as components are tightly packed in.
I have a Honda/Yamaha shop a 1/2 mile from my house, but a BMW store is 100 miles+.
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When I was 13 my dad took me to the local WESTERN AUTO store & purchased a set of oe/be wrenches & a 3/4 inch socket set,1 Phillips, 1 straight screw driver, 1 pliers,1 hammer,1 vice gripe & a red "Western Auto" tool box.
Now son ,you have your own set of tools, STAY AWAY from my tools. That was the beginning of the education & over the next few years I lost or added to MY tool box.
I got my first car at 15(another story & education) &
living on the Hi-plains of Kansas I discovered that if your mode of transportation don't go neither do you. Tools became an important part of my life, Having a 40 ford coupe & a Cushman scotter,as did also learning how to keep everything moving forward.
Fast forward to 2017-- now at 73 years old I find tools are still an important part of my life and keeping two auto's & two motorcycles moving forward is to this day still a task that I enjoy. So why anyone that has machinery that requires service & maintenance & doesn't
enjoy the time spent with machine,tools & solitude is an enigma to me.
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i love fixing things, or making them better. that means i love tools. building bmw race cars, restoring old bmw cars and MC's, tweaking the performance of all of those......they are just an excuse to buy and use more tools. and a bigger shop.

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BoBo, that'll teach ya. Wow. 650. It is about 2.5 hours work moving along. $90 for air filters, oil filter 20, oil 60, rear oil 15, I'm missing 200$. Your going to have to lay down some cardboard and take care of this. It is all easy work, as you say, your screwed by where you live and I understand many folks live in condos or apartments and can not work on their bikes. Find an independent shop that works on bmw bikes regularly. Call these guys up and ask if they know someone who will service your bike.
http://www.perrysmotorcycles.com/
Maybe there is a fellow rider in town that will let you come over and do the deed.
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Yep, love my tools. If I added what I paid for them new to my "net worth" I would go up enough to be able to vote in the $$$$ poll.

Just for shits and giggles, I think I'll start a thread "What's the last tool you purchased".
It's all shits and giggles until someone giggles and shits.

On the question, i do everything myself. That way i learn and save a few bucks. And i also have a really really hard time trusting that the garage did the best job possible as they do it for money and time is of the essence.
People often say that they pay others because they dont have the time......what no time to do it? Yet they can spend 40 hours working to raise the money to pay the bill for those 8 hours that other someone worked on the bike in the end.....
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BoBo, woke up this morning and realized at that 24k mile service your brakes were probably bled. If so, along with all the other fiddling, it is about right what you were charged.
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