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SPOILER - Valencia MotoGP

Well, sadly, its the last race of the season, and essentially unless Marquez crashes out or otherwise DNF's he's the champ, again, and deservedly so, hard to argue that he's the class of the field at the moment, although all kudos to Desmo Dovi for a great season, if the stars align he could be the champ, although the odds are long.

https://www.superbikeplanet.com/moto...-results-2017/

Anyway FP1 and 2 are in the books, 1 first, 2 below, looking forward to watching the races, go Vale go, even if he's off to a slow start!

MotoGP Valencia FP1 Results Free Practice (1)
The Gran Premio Motul de la Comunitat Valenciana from Circuit Ricardo Tormo, Cheste, Valencia, Spain. The final round of the 2017 MotoGP season.
Pos. Rider Team Bike Time

1 Andrea Iannone Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 1:31.045
2 Jack Miller Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 1:31.357
3 Pol Espargaro Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM RC16 1:31.438
4 Andrea Dovizioso Ducati Team Ducati GP17 1:31.476
5 Marc Marquez Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 1:31.511
6 Maverick Vinales Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 1:31.750
7 Johann Zarco Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 1:31.808
8 Cal Crutchlow LCR Honda Honda RC213V 1:31.827
9 Mika Kallio Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM RC16 1:31.879
10 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 1:31.950
11 Michele Pirro Ducati Test Team Ducati GP17 1:31.979
12 Jorge Lorenzo Ducati Team Ducati GP17 1:31.980
13 Danilo Petrucci Octo Pramac Racing Ducati GP17 1:32.029
14 Alvaro Bautista Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati GP16 1:32.504
15 Tito Rabat Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 1:32.504
16 Aleix Espargaro Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia RS-GP 1:32.516
17 Scott Redding Octo Pramac Racing Ducati GP16 1:32.535
18 Valentino Rossi Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 1:32.538
19 Hector Barbera Reale Esponsorama Racing Ducati GP16 1:32.623
20 Alex Rins Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 1:32.797
21 Karel Abraham Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati GP16 1:32.940
22 Sam Lowes Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia RS-GP 1:32.985
23 Bradley Smith Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM RC16 1:33.013
24 Loris Baz Reale Esponsorama Racing Ducati GP16 1:33.183
25 Michael van der Mark Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 1:34.521

https://www.superbikeplanet.com/moto...-results-2017/

MotoGP Valencia FP2 Results Free Practice (2)
Friday, November 10, 2017
Pos. Rider Team Bike Time

1 Jorge Lorenzo Ducati Team Ducati GP17 1:30.640
2 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 1:30.762
3 Andrea Dovizioso Ducati Team Ducati GP17 1:30.949
4 Johann Zarco Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 1:31.054
5 Marc Marquez Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 1:31.243
6 Jack Miller Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 1:31.357
7 Cal Crutchlow LCR Honda Honda RC213V 1:31.383
8 Michele Pirro Ducati Test Team Ducati GP17 1:31.413
9 Valentino Rossi Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 1:31.488
10 Pol Espargaro Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM RC16 1:31.615
11 Maverick Vinales Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 1:31.624
12 Aleix Espargaro Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia RS-GP 1:31.698
13 Scott Redding Octo Pramac Racing Ducati GP16 1:31.733
14 Karel Abraham Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati GP16 1:31.858
15 Alex Rins Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 1:31.876
16 Hector Barbera Reale Esponsorama Racing Ducati GP16 1:31.926
17 Tito Rabat Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 1:31.958
18 Andrea Iannone Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 1:31.966
19 Mika Kallio Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM RC16 1:31.966
20 Alvaro Bautista Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati GP16 1:32.076
21 Loris Baz Reale Esponsorama Racing Ducati GP16 1:32.151
22 Danilo Petrucci Octo Pramac Racing Ducati GP17 1:32.192
23 Bradley Smith Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM RC16 1:32.457
24 Sam Lowes Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia RS-GP 1:32.587
25 Michael van der Mark Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 1:33.101
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Re: SPOILER - Valencia MotoGP

Dovi's dismal result at Phillip Island really destroyed his championship hopes... he has to win this race, with Marquez finishing 12th or worse in order to win the championship... not likely...
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Re: SPOILER - Valencia MotoGP

This is disappointing, the last weekend with GP racing to lift our spirits.

Nick Harris calling his last race, again... next year will be missing an iconic voice.

I was lucky enough to have caught two races this year, Austin Texas and Philip Island. The Aus race was fantastic, the action was great but I wish Dovizioso had done better though. Hoping for the impossible to deliver an Italian champion on an Italian machine.
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Re: SPOILER - Valencia MotoGP

NH69 took the title when VR46 crashed out...MM93 has 26 crash's so far...just say'n..
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Re: SPOILER - Valencia MotoGP

Qualifying is in, MM is on top, despite a crash in the morning practice, and a crash in qualifying, along with a host of others who crashed. Vinales didn't make it through Qualifying session 1, seems to have lost his mojo. Rossi 7th, Dovi 9th, championship looking grim for Dovi, too bad. Lorenzo and Crutchlow walked away from some impressive crashes. That's 27 crashes for Marquez this season, one of these times he may not be so fortunate, hoping his luck holds.

https://www.superbikeplanet.com/moto...-results-2017/

Valencia MotoGP Qualifying Results:
After Crash Strewn Session Marquez On Pole, & Feeling Punchy
Crashers include MM93, Lorenzo, Crutchlow, Rabat, Aleix and Sam Lowes
The final round of the 2017 MotoGP season.


Session 2 (Combined)
Pos. Rider Team Bike Time

1 Marc Marquez Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 1:29.897
2 Johann Zarco Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 1:30.246
3 Andrea Iannone Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 1:30.399
4 Jorge Lorenzo Ducati Team Ducati GP17 1:30.460
5 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 1:30.589
6 Michele Pirro Ducati Test Team Ducati GP17 1:30.764
7 Valentino Rossi Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 1:30.848
8 Aleix Espargaro Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia RS-GP 1:30.857
9 Andrea Dovizioso Ducati Team Ducati GP17 1:30.961
10 Alex Rins Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 1:30.972
11 Pol Espargaro Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM RC16 1:31.044
12 Jack Miller Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 1:31.190
13 Maverick Vinales Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 1:31.030
14 Tito Rabat Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 1:31.197
15 Danilo Petrucci Octo Pramac Racing Ducati GP17 1:31.216
16 Cal Crutchlow LCR Honda Honda RC213V 1:31.297
17 Bradley Smith Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM RC16 1:31.300
18 Karel Abraham Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati GP16 1:31.325
19 Mika Kallio Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM RC16 1:31.361
20 Hector Barbera Reale Esponsorama Racing Ducati GP16 1:31.487
21 Alvaro Bautista Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati GP16 1:31.578
22 Scott Redding Octo Pramac Racing Ducati GP16 1:31.625
23 Loris Baz Reale Esponsorama Racing Ducati GP16 1:31.775
24 Sam Lowes Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia RS-GP 1:31.816
25 Michael van der Mark Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 1:32.504

Session 1
Pos. Rider Team Bike Time

1 Pol Espargaro Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM RC16 1:30.893
2 Aleix Espargaro Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia RS-GP 1:30.913
3 Maverick Vinales Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 1:31.030
4 Tito Rabat Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 1:31.197
5 Danilo Petrucci Octo Pramac Racing Ducati GP17 1:31.216
6 Cal Crutchlow LCR Honda Honda RC213V 1:31.297
7 Bradley Smith Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM RC16 1:31.300
8 Karel Abraham Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati GP16 1:31.325
9 Mika Kallio Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM RC16 1:31.361
10 Hector Barbera Reale Esponsorama Racing Ducati GP16 1:31.487
11 Alvaro Bautista Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati GP16 1:31.578
12 Scott Redding Octo Pramac Racing Ducati GP16 1:31.625
13 Loris Baz Reale Esponsorama Racing Ducati GP16 1:31.775
14 Sam Lowes Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia RS-GP 1:31.816
15 Michael van der Mark Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 1:32.504
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Re: SPOILER - Valencia MotoGP

First things first - congratulations Marc, you are indeed an alien. Just that save when you lost the front end during the race is enough for you to merit your fourth MotoGP crown. You're not my favourite rider, but you are one of the most talented who's graced the sport. So again, congratulations, you deserve it.



And now, an open letter to Mr. Jorge Lorenzo.
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Dear Mr. Lorenzo,

What the fuck were you thinking?

Were you racing to protect a critical podium finish?

Were you racing to protect a second or third place standing in the championship?

Were you significantly faster than your team mate (ya, the one who was eating your ass in every fucking corner until you fell)?

Were you trying to impress your new masters at Ducati by showing them how much better you were than your team mate - and justify the millions they dumped on you (you know, the team mate who actually still had a chance of winning the championship - unlike you who managed a single podium in the entire season)? Ya, you really impressed them by showing how you respected their wishes. You get a gold star for how well you impressed them (sarcasm).

Are you blind or stupid - couldn't see the dash board instructions is your typical excuse, but what part of the pit board didn't you understand?

It's highly unlikely that Dovi would have pulled off the miracle required to take the championship, but there was still a chance. He could have tried to put pressure on those that really mattered and had a chance to be a master of his fate. And you could have helped your paymasters by giving Dovi the chance, but instead you decided to be the Jorge most people remember.

I don't know what you were thinking Mr. Lorenzo, but I can tell you what you achieved. You managed to reconfirm what many thought of you, and hoped had passed as you matured. You managed to confirm that you are a dick.

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Re: SPOILER - Valencia MotoGP

Like Hector I too was scratching my head wondering WTF was Lorenzo thinking, and realised that he was being himself, a prick, as many have perceived him to be over the years. Ironic at the races that there are huge fan sections for Rossi, and Marquez, but I don't recall seeing many large Lorenzo fan areas, no surprise.

Anyway, congrats to Dani Pedrosa for a fine effort to protect MM, and to win. Put Zarco on a factory bike and that would be interesting. Marquez save in the first corner slide was simply remarkable. I'm still a solid Rossi fan, and I hope Yamaha can sort out what it is that has caused he and Vinales so much grief in the last 2/3 of the season, as I suspect next year will be Rossi's last, would be nice to see him fighting for the title as the season goes by, but time waits for none of us, and for me it's one old guy rooting for another, (of course 38 is a long way back in my mirror.)

Anyway congrats to Marquez, he's the best there is right now, and already measures with the all time greats, and if he doesn't bust himself up the sky's the limit for him.

Here's the results for this season's last race:

https://www.superbikeplanet.com/moto...-results-2017/

MotoGP Valencia Race Results 2017

Sunday, November 12, 2017
MotoGP Valencia Race Results.
Pos. Rider Team Bike Time/Gap

1 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 46:08.125
2 Johann Zarco Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 0.337
3 Marc Marquez Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 10.861
4 Alex Rins Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 13.567
5 Valentino Rossi Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 13.817
6 Andrea Iannone Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 14.516
7 Jack Miller Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 17.087
8 Cal Crutchlow LCR Honda Honda RC213V 17.230
9 Michele Pirro Ducati Test Team Ducati GP17 25.942
10 Tito Rabat Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 27.020
11 Bradley Smith Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM RC16 30.835
12 Maverick Vinales Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 35.012
13 Danilo Petrucci Octo Pramac Racing Ducati GP17 38.076
14 Karel Abraham Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati GP16 41.988
15 Hector Barbera Reale Esponsorama Racing Ducati GP16 47.703
16 Loris Baz Reale Esponsorama Racing Ducati GP16 47.709
17 Michael van der Mark Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 52.134
DNF Pol Espargaro Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM RC16 5 LAPS
DNF Andrea Dovizioso Ducati Team Ducati GP17 5 LAPS
DNF Jorge Lorenzo Ducati Team Ducati GP17 6 LAPS
DNF Sam Lowes Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia RS-GP 8 LAPS
DNF Alvaro Bautista Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati GP16 16 LAPS
DNF Scott Redding Octo Pramac Racing Ducati GP16 26 LAPS
DNF Aleix Espargaro Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia RS-GP 27 LAPS
DNF Mika Kallio Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM RC16 28 LAPS
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Re: SPOILER - Valencia MotoGP

I wish Lorenzo had finished. Then he would have had to explain why he didn't yield with the spotlight fully on him.

I'm not one for team orders, but when you are this far into the season, that was inexcusable. Honestly, there was no need for team orders, ANYONE with half a brain would have known what was at stake.

Then MM nearly crashes...


Like I've always said, Lorenzo's a rat.



My guess is he was pissed they put a transgender umbrella girl next to him on the grid.

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Re: SPOILER - Valencia MotoGP

Rossi and Vinales switched to 2016 chassis on RACE DAY! Wow. That is crazy.

They still finished poorly. But more importantly, they finished more than 20s slower than last year's pace.

While Zarco takes the same bike (with time for set up) to second place and leading for most of the race.


That is a lot of information to sift through and digest over the next few days of testing and all of the winter.

Everyone is shaking their heads. No one knows what's "wrong."




Could it be there is nothing "wrong." And this is all the pace these two have? Impossible.

Is it a tire issue? The shared electronics issue? I know Rossi said they needed a more powerful engine to keep up with Honda and Ducati. Maybe that was the worst thing he could have wished for. It seems they are having trouble harnessing that power to the rear wheel...


Someone suggested they let Vin and Ros ride Zarco's bike for the practice sessions coming up... THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING!
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Re: SPOILER - Valencia MotoGP

Another incredible save from Marquez(again) I go back as far as Hailwood and never seen anything like him,but ride of the weekend for me was Mir riding from the back to second that just isnít done in Moto3 what a talent to come.

Just 6 hours a day tomorrow and wednesday testing
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Re: SPOILER - Valencia MotoGP

Pretty boring race says I. The lead group checked out from the rest of the pack and held their position other than the Zarco / Marquez antics late in the race. I'd be really impressed with MM's save if the incident was so overwhelmed by his stupidity. The only way opens the door to losing the championship is a 12th or lower or DNF.

Pretty stupid stuff from JLo as well. I could see Lorenzo thinking that as long as he's chasing MM that there's no point in letting Dovi by. He'd be wrong about that, but I could see him thinking it. Who's to say if Dovi wouldn't have been able to run down the leaders and in pushing MM, have him DNF?

Overall just not a very enjoyable race to watch to finish the season but happy for Zarco and the success he's enjoying.
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I must have been watching a different race to you people.

What I saw, was a satellite Yamaha show the factory Yamaha's that they haven't learnt a thing from the whole season.
Danni Pedrosa showed why he is still in the factory Honda team.
If Dovi wanted to get past, then that is what he should have done. Good on Lorenzo for growing some balls, and not giving up a position, thus, making GP more like Formula !.
Another incredible save by MM, when tried by Dovi, appeared like he lacks the dirt experience.
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Re: SPOILER - Valencia MotoGP

MM93 almost pulled a VR46 that handed NH69 the title...would have been the best ending...just say'n....once again..
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