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View Poll Results: K1200S/K1200R Exhaust Poll - Which slip-on or full system did you choose?
Akrapovic 118 13.96%
Arrow 8 0.95%
Laser 66 7.81%
Leo Vince 65 7.69%
Remus 222 26.27%
Scorpion 14 1.66%
Staintune 51 6.04%
Two Bros. 65 7.69%
Z-Technik 21 2.49%
Custom, homegrown, other (which one?) 12 1.42%
Stock works for me and the neighborhood 195 23.08%
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Old 06-15-2007, 01:31 PM
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K1200S/K1200R Exhaust Poll

Ok, so there are some choices here to pick up a few HP and lose weight on the might K12 beasts. If you installed a full-system or slip-on, which did you choose and why? if you've had problems, what happened?

I installed a Remus titanium slip-on recently, working well so far.


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Just got a used 06 GT1200 and have been very impressed with the bike over a few weeks and 1000 miles. Ordered and installed Remus Ti slip on last week. Aside from the huge improvement in sound, I have good increase in power but more importantly smoother acceleration / deceleration with less jerky transition. I have also installed a high flow foam air filter from BMW of Atlanta which is touted to be 2-4 hp better than K&N. I am getting a lot of popping on decel but kind of like it. Overall great bike with tons of power, great comfort and handling.
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I got the deal of the century by purchasing a "scratch and dent" Staintune slip-on from Pirate for $150 delivered

Sounds good, looks good, and my wallet feels good.

I am so glad that I rid my S of the abomination that comes from the factory
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I put on a Leo Vince SBK factory titanium slip=on. I really like the exhaust note, it was very simple to put on and I have had no problems with it at all. It weighs next to nothing unlike the stock cannon that was on the bike...
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Great deal on a great exhaust, have about 3,000 miles on my Staintune and have noticed more miles per gallon of fun, have you had the same experience?
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Re: K1200S/K1200R Exhaust Poll

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Ok, so there are some choices here to pick up a few HP and lose weight on the might K12 beasts. If you installed a full-system or slip-on, which did you choose and why? if you've had problems, what happened?

I installed a Remus titanium slip-on recently, working well so far.


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Had a remus slip-on for approx 25,000 miles.
Thereafter tried a full header 2Brothers & C5 can - was night & day power increase, unleashing the potential of the Rhine West chip (there for both exhausts).

Just be prepared to replace the can & or re-pack often. In my case, 3 (three) cans cracked @ the header as have others who "ride"- so buyer beware.

Again, the tuned header is fantastic - so it's not all sour grapes
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Re: K1200S/K1200R Exhaust Poll

Remus power cone for me. Got it because it looks cool to me and sounds great. Don't really care about horsepower, it's got too much for the street anyway. If the stock can wasn't so ugly I may have kept it on.
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Remus slip on - simple to install and rids the bike of that enormous, heavy, shiny object attached to the side. Great sound too.
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Re: K1200S/K1200R Exhaust Poll

I went with the Staintune, it should be here today. I chose this pipe because of the quality, 10hp gain and little or no maintenance required. The fit and finish of the pipe is top shelf and there are no springs used to attach slip-on.

Just high quality stainless, and a sweet note it doth make.
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Re: K1200S/K1200R Exhaust Poll

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Had a remus slip-on for approx 25,000 miles.
Thereafter tried a full header 2Brothers & C5 can - was night & day power increase, unleashing the potential of the Rhine West chip (there for both exhausts).

Just be prepared to replace the can & or re-pack often. In my case, 3 (three) cans cracked @ the header as have others who "ride"- so buyer beware.

Again, the tuned header is fantastic - so it's not all sour grapes

Vic,

This is obviously for your KRS. On my '04 KRS there was not an option for using a slip-on. You had to replace the entire exhaust....the header, catalytic converter and muffler.

Were the older model KRSs different? If so, I assume that the catalytic converter remained since I don't think that BMW started putting the converter in the actual tailpipe/muffler until the newer models. So, do you think tha much of the performance difference could be associated to eliminating it?

With the KS, KR and KGT, the catalytic converter is in the part that is replaced by the slip-on. It offers a big weight drop and a 3 - 5 hp increase (all brands claim this except Staintune who claims a 10 hp increase).

Going to a FULL system on a newer K gets you about a 10 hp increase over stock and saves a few more pounds, but, cost 2 - 3 times as much!!
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Re: K1200S/K1200R Exhaust Poll

Randy people have been running aftermarket slip ons on the ol KRS for years, the Rhine west chip was developed for the Remus slipon back in 99.
and I just pulled the trigger on a Leo Vince Evo2 Ti with CF tip
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Re: K1200S/K1200R Exhaust Poll

Congrats Karl!

Sorry for hijacking this thread about KS exhausts, but, just curious....did the slip-on go AFTER the converter? Did you have to cut the pipe? IIRC, mine was a SOLID piece...I wanted to break it down to ship it and it was all welded.
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I believe some did away with the converter and had a mid pipe and some had their own smaller pre muffler
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I just pulled the trigger on a Leo Vince Evo2 Ti with CF tip

Was this for the k1200s?
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I like it, well made seemsto give the bike a small power hit in the mid range to red line area def looks better and now I can remove and install the rear wheel without have to loosen the exhaust!! It comes with a removablebaffle and after running it both ways I took it out, a little louder than stock but still quiter than my 996 with a 54mm full termi Ti race system (thats the voice of god)
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Might be but Cherryl's voice rules...
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Re: K1200S/K1200R Exhaust Poll

Just got back from two wonderful trips with the new GT. The first was a quick 5 day 1,500 miles from Atlanta up through the Blue Ridge to the top of Skyline Drive and back. This was with 3 friends all who are on FJ's. The GT with the Remus pipe was hands down the better sounding than the FJ's, one with a Staintune, one with a Aproprovick and the other stock.

Intersting trip with the full gammit of high speed down to easy low speed touring. The Remus really helped keep the heards of deer out of our way on Skyline Drive.

The second part of the trip was up to Niagara Falls, Georgian Bay, Ottawa and back down through the Shenadoah Valley and Asheville. This trip had other considerations and the bike was in the back of the Titan, but still got out for over 1,000 miles during the trip. Friends and family were surprised by the look and sound of the GT. Both Trips were super and really got to push the bike hard and hear that Remus Screaming!
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AC Schnitzer, now Jet-Hotted with a RhineWest chip on a 2002KRS, Has smoothed everything out and cut out that slight hesitation from fully-closed throttle. Sound is now like a motorcycle and not like a sewing machine.

Remus on the K100RS. Does away with that awful heat shield.

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I chose the Remus PowerCone slip-on with black matte finsh. Looks good, sounds good!
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I installed a Remus carbon fiber slip-on. The weight saving and sound are a huge improvement. The carbon fiber does not get hot which is a major plus as well. I love the look of the titanium powercone. If I a see a great price on one I would do that.
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This poll is obviously lacking in choices.
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This poll is obviously lacking in choices.

How about suggestions?
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This poll is obviously lacking in choices.
Lacking in options??, Oh I guess your bummed cause no one added the "Bush Sucks" option to the poll.
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I do like my black Remus Power Cone. Looks and sounds awesome.
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my new K1200R Sport is back in the shop for an electrical "fault'. Got an 06 K1200S for a loaner.

The bike has an aftermarket pipe that is obnoxiously LOUD. Has a straight through hole about 3 inches in diameter.

Even at idle it is embarrasing if front of friends and strangers. Can't hold a conversation while it is running.

When riding it spits, bubbles, hesitates, and just makes strange noises.

The pipe isn't even noticable with the bags on and has no brand label on it. [may be a twobrothers].

I will stay with my stock muffler, thank you.

I ride almost always with earplugs and the lack of wind noise [and exhaust roar] is pleasant and I am not as fatigued after riding, [not to mention hearing damage].
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I will stay with my stock muffler, thank you.
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Getting old are we???

My bike is with the EVO II and sounds like a ferrari. To each his own.
No offence. But the stock can is stupid. IMHO.
A bike like the Ks needs some sound.
Alternatively, I would suggest putting on some HP filters. It really opens up the intake. And the sound from the intake is wicked. Try the foam filters from Bobby @ Atlanta BMW. Good stuff and wont cost you much. Dictch the snorkels.
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EVO II, which brand is that?

I have always wanted my bike to sound like that...yet, i only hear 600CC super sports bike can to that type of sound.

Let me know please~
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Re: K1200S/K1200R Exhaust Poll

Also have Remus Power Cone on a 07 K1200R-Sport. Looks cool, blends in with the look of the black frame. Sounds like? I'll have to wait until the squirrels stop hibernating in the slip-on to actually hear it. Too much snow and freezing temps here in Southern Ontario. Brrrrrrr... -14C, with a windchill of -25C. Maybe this weekend...in time for the local bike show.

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I am new to the site and have a 2002 K1200RS. What is the best windshield to go with besides the factory that seems to scratch up a lot. Also, anybody got any comments on the Rhinewest chip for this bike. The bike currently has a full Staintune exhaust. Thanks....Killrbee
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My favorite windshield on my '02 RS was the BMW Comfort or GT windshield. I liked the Rhinewest chip as well until BMW came out with their latest ECU module for the RS.
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My favorite windshield on my '02 RS was the BMW Comfort or GT windshield. I liked the Rhinewest chip as well until BMW came out with their latest ECU module for the RS.
Thanks for the feedback. I am curious why the BMW ECU may be the preferred way to go. Inasmuch it is a BMW product, do you think this is a better performance improvement?
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The original ECU had the bike running rich, fowling plugs and getting 30 mpg. The Rhinewest chip gave some power improvements but the original ECU it was plugged into still had some issues. BMW replaced the ECU under warranty and with the new ECU the bike ran very well so I sold the Rhinewest chip and was happy with the BMW ECU.
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The original ECU had the bike running rich, fowling plugs and getting 30 mpg. The Rhinewest chip gave some power improvements but the original ECU it was plugged into still had some issues. BMW replaced the ECU under warranty and with the new ECU the bike ran very well so I sold the Rhinewest chip and was happy with the BMW ECU.

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Remus Titanium. I really like the sound of a Remus. The sound is worth the price of admission. Then you get better mileage, more power, and reduced weight. All good stuff.
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R&B, but I don't have the bike yet.
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Bafflle taken out then replaced after becoming deaf.
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Can you please upload a photo. I have not seen a Ti can on a K12 only carbon. I dont like carbon as it goes dull eventually.
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Remus Powercone short . Great sound and no problems with tyre changes.
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The Z-Technic claims 9 HP. And, a big weight reduction. It has come down in price, too.


"With the KS, KR and KGT, the catalytic converter is in the part that is replaced by the slip-on. It offers a big weight drop and a 3 - 5 hp increase (all brands claim this except Staintune who claims a 10 hp increase)."
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I put on a Two Bros M2 VALE Titanium slip-on and put about 1500 miles on with it. The sound was great both with and without the optional power baffle. The pipe breathed a bit too freely for the stock chip though and the bike ended up running so lean that it would stumble pretty bad at idle and just off idle. Once the bike was up to temperature it was so bad that at every stop light it would stall unless I played with the throttle.

I eventually put the stock pipe back on and it immediately fixed all the problems. I don't mind the look of the stock pipe (to be honest, I think the M2 canister is too small for the K12S) and I'm not pushing the bike even to my own limits, never mind the bikes limits, so I don't really need any more power.

I've since modded the TwoBros pipe to fit on my Yamaha R1 track bike. I'll have to rejet the carbs on it and we'll see if it works any better there.
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Guys: I plan on getting a Remus Ti Powercone for OXCART 2, my silver K1200S.

Yeah, but part of me wants to just saw off that nasty stock muffler and graft a Paughco fishtail on the extension. Or maybe a cocktail shaker. .

Naw... 22 inch Powercone. Give it that Merlin soundtrack.

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Guys: I plan on getting a Remus Ti Powercone for OXCART 2, my silver K1200S.

Yeah, but part of me wants to just saw off that nasty stock muffler and graft a Paughco fishtail on the extension. Or maybe a cocktail shaker. .

Naw... 22 inch Powercone. Give it that Merlin soundtrack.

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OK, I gotta fess...

I thought the Remus Powercone on my bike sounds like a Rolls Royce Merlin. Well, it only kinda sounds that way.

A couple buddies and I rode up to Paul Allen's Flying Heritage Museum (the warbirds actually fly) at Paine Field, and we got there just as they had fired up their P-51D. As cool as the Remus exhaust sounds on my K-bike, I must admit, that 1) I could hear the Mustang idling from over 100 yards away over the exhaust note from the Remus on my K1200S, and 2) next to the real thing there is no comparison.

Yeah, but...

I recently had to ride home to my Secret HQ in the Snoqualmie Valley from Alturas, California in one day. I didn't wear my ear plugs on the serious windy twisties between Burns and Pendelton, just so I could hear that K-sled do her thing. Oh yeah!

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Here's Remus hexacone on my K12S


Much lighter than stock with a deeper sound but not louder, if you want to annoy the neighbours baffle can be removed.
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Just can't do it! I have a Leo Vince in TIT and have opened the box twice to do the install on my K1200S, and I just cant do it. I'm actually satified with my stock pipe. So the Leo Vince will sit on the shelf until I get the urge......Every other BMW I've owned has had an aftermarket pipe and on this bike I'm happy with a few extra pounds and riding stealth....Go figure?
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Do you ride this bike or is it in your livingroom on the center stand.

A bike like a K12S needs muffler that stands behinds it's HP, not a the a pink scooter pipe

Where ya live, we'll put it on for ya
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Staintune exhaust

I have a Staintune on my K12RS. It is not too loud, allows the engine to breathe an has a nice growl to it.
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I just installed an Arrow TI tonight and we have a group ride in the morning. I will let you know what I think on sunday as saturday is going to busy.
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I have a z-technic full Ti system. featherweight, great sound and now can be had cheaply. Improved the low throttle fueling. Bit of a hassle installing but I'm very satisfied with it.
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OK I went for a ride on sunday approximatly 200 miles. My first ride with the Arrow Ti can. The install was a joke. It took approximatly 10 min and most of the time was looking for the correct tools.

Back to the point: At the halfway point (Hatch, NM) I inspected the Rt side painer for heat damage or any other advers effects and all was good to go. The return trip was all highway 70-90mph from Hatch, NM to El Paso, TX. I stopped at the Rudy's gas station off I-10 to fill up. I got off the bike, got the gas to start filling the tank and thought I would check out the pipe. I was amazed. I'm not sure how these things work (titanium) but I toughd the pipe and found that it was not really that hot, not like the old torpedo.

As far as the sound. it is a little louder on start up but you don't notice it on the road and no droning on the highway.

After install I removed the battery for appproximatly 5 min to reset the ECU and I have not had any real issues with back fires or any hesitation.

Last but not least is performance. I am no expert on these things but it felt alot faster on the top end. I actually slid back on the seat from 2nd to 3rd.

All in all, for $200 I could not be happier. Then again it was only one ride!!!
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I did a custom slip-on with a Jardine RT4(yes an ATV muffler with a spark arrestor).Was looking into getting some stock mufflers to make some reasonable slip-ons for these bikes(ie;Yoshi,Scorpion,M4,etc...) Sound and performance are nice with what I did.Its a little on the short side,but the tip is angled to keep the exh from getting the bags too hot. Ken
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The stock exhaust is the only chrome on the bike, makes the big thing stand out too much. The black Remus fits it nice. Plus it is something like 25 pounds lighter. And sounds way better .
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It did cost a bunch though! Got it at a rally for 640.00 something like that.
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Remus Powercone long in stainless for me. I fitted it to my first 1200S in 2006 and it now adorns my '08 S. The weight saving over stock is phenomenal and access to the rear wheel is much better too.
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I agree completely with Bob S.

Ti Powercone is where it's at

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Love the sound and weight!!! Remus Black
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Here's my Black Remus polished after the paint started chipping away (comes off with paint stripper btw)...looks much better in polished stainless steel except for the "Remus" add-on...(see attachments)
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Any you folks try the new Carbon Lazer Can

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I've got a Carbon Remus on mine and am quite pleased.

I love it when they say...."wow....does not sound like your daddy's beemer!"
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