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Old 03-17-2017, 10:29 AM
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Fast forward to 2014, Colorado. A very good friend rides in on his yellow RR from many many states away. I asked while admiring the bike, "Is that thing comfortable?" The immediate reply spoken with a grin as big as the whole outdoors, "Fk no!".
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THIS ^^^^ I totally understand. It's why I keep contemplating in my head trying to turn an Aprilia RSV4 or Tuono into my SPORT-Tourer of choice. That said, I'm under no illusions that they would be the most comfortable sport-touring bikes that I've ever traveled aboard (or come close to matching the comfort of the K12/1300S). The Tuono I think I could make work for me, the RSV4 I think I'm just kidding myself. While I would arrive at the destination with a shit eating grin, I might also not move the next morning after a 500+ mile day in the saddle. As an example, I can't imagine doing the 2990 miles in 5 days that I completed last October (on K1200RS) attending the Arkansas Rally without a packing myself a chiropractor. Similarly, I rolled off 5800 miles in 12 days on my K1200S back in 2009. No way I see myself doing that on a RR, although whatever I was able to do would be fun as hell and most certainly at jailtime speeds.
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Re: New K1300S replacement is in development!

Matt. I'm only stating my personal point of view so that others may not just automatically take the RR off their list because for some it may be a close replacement for the S. Best mod anyone could make to improve riding comfort is a Saddlemen seat( you know, the one with the "channel" to take the pressure off The Package). For the record I'll be 67 in May, 5'10", 170, no yoga but I play ice hockey 3-4 times a week and keep active doing multiple chores around the property. Oh, and I eat pretty healthy except for Wed Safety Meeting with the guys having a beer and something that usually comes with fries........
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Old 05-21-2017, 09:21 PM
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Nothing like the K1300S MOTOR as it will walk on the XR in a straight away, but the XR handles better, suspension is awesome and I love all the electronics. Gotta wait before I sell, I just dislike the K1300S in the Mountains very much!
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Old 05-21-2017, 11:21 PM
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Re: New K1300S replacement is in development!

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Nothing like the K1300S MOTOR as it will walk on the XR in a straight away, but the XR handles better, suspension is awesome and I love all the electronics. Gotta wait before I sell, I just dislike the K1300S in the Mountains very much!
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Old 05-22-2017, 01:24 AM
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Re: New K1300S replacement is in development!

Just had my K1200S serviced at the local BMW dealer (Yes it was expensive).
He was telling me that they had heard that BMW are going to release a K1600S as a replacement to the K1300S.
He was telling me that the 6 cylinder engine is actually narrower than the 4 cylinder 1200.
That could be a really nice sports tourer.
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Re: New K1300S replacement is in development!

Your dealer is talking pure BS. The K1600S has been rumored since before the current K1600 series came about. And the 6 cylinder engine is an inch WIDER than the 4 cylinder K1200/1300 engine.
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Old 05-22-2017, 03:17 AM
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Your dealer is talking pure BS. The K1600S has been rumored since before the current K1600 series came about. And the 6 cylinder engine is an inch WIDER than the 4 cylinder K1200/1300 engine.

Couldn't agree more. Do what you like to a K16 but you can't turn it into a replacement for a K13 - the fundamental point is that you simply can't make it lose enough weight to have any sport pretensions.
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Old 05-22-2017, 09:44 AM
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You use a mule to pull weight and a race horse to go fast. They have similar genetics, but can never do the other's job.
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Couldn't agree more. Do what you like to a K16 but you can't turn it into a replacement for a K13 - the fundamental point is that you simply can't make it lose enough weight to have any sport pretensions.

Amen to that - I'm sticking with Seabiscuit.
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You use a mule to pull weight and a race horse to go fast. They have similar genetics, but can never do the other's job.

Amen to that - I'm sticking with Seabiscuit
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Old 05-22-2017, 01:32 PM
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Re: New K1300S replacement is in development!

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You use a mule to pull weight and a race horse to go fast. They have similar genetics, but can never do the other's job.
sure they can, they just aren't as good it (respectively) and unless BMW changes their current stance, either the R12RS or the S1XR are the replacements for the KS
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Old 05-22-2017, 11:34 PM
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r1200rs is no replacement for a k1300s, no way
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Old 05-23-2017, 01:19 AM
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Re: New K1300S replacement is in development!

No Shite Dick Tracy. I love my K bike. Just today I have 99,902 miles on it and am headed out tomorrow to one of my favorite roads to make it 100,000 at the top of Rainy Pass Hwy20 in North Washington State.
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Old 05-23-2017, 07:16 AM
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r1200rs is no replacement for a k1300s, no way
according to BMW it and the XR are the replacement for the K Bike for the foreseeable future.
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according to BMW it and the XR are the replacement for the K Bike for the foreseeable future.
Just not a like-kind, or even a similar-kind, replacement.
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K1300S replacement? Probably a K1300S just like last year and the year before...

Headed off to work for the first Spring ride; 0430 hours, dark, damp and switched directions exiting my first round-about. The rear kicked out, probably a lack of good throttle control on the rider's part, backed off a hair and he straightened right up an got me to work on time!

Replacement K1300S? My 2009 Mighty K1300S.
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Took my 2016 RR in to dealer today for service. Saw a new R1200RS with about five grand off. Asked why. Answer was BMW walking back the idea that it would fill the gap created by loss of slant-four K1300S. Not selling well. Nobody I've talked to/listened to believes a K1300S replacement can be derived from 1600 platform. Glad I got my RR........
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maybe the mother ship will think about a 200 hp S1RS
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K1300S replacement? Probably a K1300S just like last year and the year before...
Headed off to work for the first Spring ride; 0430 hours, dark, damp and switched directions exiting my first round-about. The rear kicked out, probably a lack of good throttle control on the rider's part, backed off a hair and he straightened right up an got me to work on time!

Replacement K1300S? My 2009 Mighty K1300S.

Well, I think it is superior traction control on the part of your right hand, like all good riders.
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Couldn't agree more. Do what you like to a K16 but you can't turn it into a replacement for a K13 - the fundamental point is that you simply can't make it lose enough weight to have any sport pretensions.

I like to think they would take a K1300S idea and put a 1600 in it, not try and turn a K1600 into a sports bike. Or make a completely new bike with the 1600 in it.
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Maybe I'm throwing a wet blanket on the discussion but I remember how Buell was picked up by H-D and then were sold by H-D Dealers. They'd sell ~100 H-Ds and then 1 Buell, then another ~100 H-Ds sold and then 1 Buell sold. No wonder they dropped Buell.

BMW has a similar dynamic - they sell ~100 R1200GS then 1 K12/13S, then ~100 R1200GS then 1 K12/13S. If you were BMW which Model would you spend your development Euros on?

Then there's BMW Market Share in North America - something like 3 to 4 % last I read. And what do BMW Customers buy here? GS/RT/GT Models. S Models?...not much. I bought my K13S used from a BMW Dealer and was told the previous owner traded it for...you guessed it...an R1200GS.

If you're like me you're always attracted to Motorcycles that don't sell in large numbers. The ones that occupy the fringes of the Market. You're simply not excited by what "everyone" else wants to ride. You see no virtues in them. And in a few years, that Motorcycle you really like, is discontinued due to low sales volume.

It's even been said the GS sales directly finance development for the lessor selling Models.

Lastly, if you look at all the "S" Models from BMW, none have been big sellers relative to the other Models.

1. R69S
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8. K1300S

It'd be nice if BMW Product Planners decide to produce a successor to our beloved K12/13 S/R bikes but I'm not holding my breath.
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From my perspective here in the U.S., BMW, in their arrogance, does little racing with little factory involvement, and does no significant advertising. Their cycles are relatively expensive. The few new designs released are accompanied by great fanfare then allowed to languish in obscurity. They didn't even market the K1300R in the U.S. The currently selling models are of a stogy antique design that has had relatively minor design improvements over an extended period of time. Parts are expensive and some times hard to get. Unusual problems identified by customers are fought to the end with a determination to deny service. They have not laterally used design improvement on one model to improve another, the single notable exception in my mind, the advancement from the K1200S/R to the K1300S/R. The few cycles BMW sells that might appeal to the younger cyclist are well beyond their ability to afford. When you go to the dealer, how many young cyclists do you see? Once these young cyclist develop a brand loyalty it is hard to get them to switch when they become more affluent. Then there is the "buy USA" element as well, which contributes to some brands.

There are many other factors we don't think much about. The relative strength of the currencies of the nations involved. Overseas shipping. Duties / tariffs / taxes on one nation as compared to another. Economy of scale - if BMW had a bigger market share, they could be built in the U.S. The economic condition of the manufacturing nation. Relative labor costs. Would you buy a BMW built in China, Vietnam, India if it were more affordable?

When I stop where other people are gathered, I always receive complements on the K1300S. Most are surprised that it is a BMW. My K1300S is not the perfect cycle for me, but it as close as I have seen despite the flaws and aggravations. I like it so much that I have had surgery on both hips so the riding position is comfortable to my aging body rather than buying a Harley. I can't think of much more of a personal endorsement than that, as if my opinion matters to other than myself. We each have our own tastes and opinions. Fortunately, here on this forum, we are among friends with similar tastes. Take good care of your K1300. It will have to last a long time.
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I'm not a BMW loyalist. The K1300S is my first BMW and I bought it in spite of that. I started out as a Honda guy. I rode their dirt bikes as a kid and my first three bikes were Hondas. A V65 Magna and two VFR750s. Then I had a Triumph 955 Sprint ST. Great commuter and highway bike, but the chassis and suspension wanted to kill me in the twisties. Anyway, I plan on keeping my K1300S a long time because there is nothing else out there that does it for me. I gravitate towards the ultra performance street bikes, not the race bikes with blinkers. The K1300S is is very good but not perfect. If BMW had done one more evolutionary wholistic improvement development cycle to it they might have gotten pretty close to perfection. All they would have had to do is fix the clutch and the vibration harmonic with the alternator. As well as the cam chain so it doesn't need the jump guard. Bump displacement to 1400cc and HP to 200, update the electronics to what's on the S1000 series bikes and make the ESA 3 fully dynamic like on the S1000 series and maybe a factory LED headlight or maybe even one of those new laser dynamically adaptive headlight arrays. But leave the rest alone. If they did that I would trade mine in for it.
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As well as the cam chain so it doesn't need the jump guard. Bump displacement to 1400cc and HP to 200,

I've got a friend staying who has brought his Kawasaki ZZR 1400 over. That's 1441cc and 210. I'm going to ride it today. Be interesting to see what it's like.
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cs..750, I'm waiting for one of those too.
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Re: New K1300S replacement is in development!

As we are now in 2017 and with the BMW picture still as clear as mud, my bet is BMW will come with a totally new 1300 Boxer engine with 140 hp and 140 nm next year. That will obviously not be any good as the 183 HP K 1300S replacement. It will screw us GS/RS/RT guys and make our bike loose more money.

My further bet is that they will come with a 1400 kick ass engine, also totally new and recreate the great 1300/4 platform. I believe they will never go to a 1600S. Clear as mud!

In the mean time I am riding my Bonkers XR which is now rid of the emission 4 crap and my KTM 1290S which both scratch all my itches and are real bikes. I have no need for a K1300S anymore and I am keeping the 16 GSA, which is now at the bottom of my food pile, to have a play in their next new engine in 2018 or 19.
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Day 2 of S1000xr ownership and I no longer miss my k1300s. I had an R1200rs for a few months, it was killing my hip even with the tall seat. Plus I could never get comfortable with the bike. It looked cool, but the hip thing was a deal breaker. I always thought the XR was one uuuuuggghhhly bike, still do but. It goes like stink and handles great. Vibration, I don't feel no stinking vibration.
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Re: New K1300S replacement is in development!

One mans opinion but, I think you guys have convinced yourselves that an S1K R, XR or RR is somehow an adequate replacement for the K13S. I fell for that initially and bought an R. Chain drive, buzzy everything, nearly 7000 rpms at 75 mph on the feeeway...no way. Took me 3 months of trying to convince myself before trading it in on another K13. Smoothness, comfort and sense of stability are no comparison. Wasted a wad of cash hoping the S1K would plug the hole.
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The thread lives homeskillet, to make you check in.

Regarding vibrations.I rode my XR six hours yesterday. No numbness in the hands,wrist and feet. I even did some yard work.
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Sure wish this thread would die the death it deserves.

Ain't gonna happen. Sorry guys, but I've always equated motorcycles to aircraft. Frustrated fighter pilot complex, I guess...


You still see complaints that we retired the A-12 and SR-71 aircraft. I believe that the K1300S is a rare bird, an almost mythical beast not unlike the Lockheed A-12. Mach 3 and 90,000 feet - nothing could touch it. Not even an F-22 (S1000RR?).

Unfortunately, all we've got are "inferior" motorcycles, and we're trying to make do. I've seen reports on the Internet that the Skunk Works is working on a next gen version of the high speed, high altitude strategic reconnaissance aircraft: the SR-72. All we're asking for here is for the BMW Skunkworks to give us the equivalent motorcycle!

Right now I am satisfying my Need For Speed with my S1000XR. IMHO, the XR is something like an F/A-18E Super Hornet to the K1300S's Lockheed A-12. And my 1950 H-D Panhead is like a P-40B Tomahawk.

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The thread lives homeskillet, to make you check in.

Regarding vibrations.I rode my XR six hours yesterday. No numbness in the hands,wrist and feet. I even did some yard work.

Ah...still in the honeymoon period. The new bike smell is still in your nose and the hole in your checking account is still fresh. Give it 90 days, then ride a friends K1300S and report back.

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The K1300S is gone. People didn't buy them when they were available. The end. This has been ongoing for almost three years. Anyone see a replacement?


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You still see complaints that we retired the A-12 and SR-71 aircraft. I believe that the K1300S is a rare bird, an almost mythical beast not unlike the Lockheed A-12. Mach 3 and 90,000 feet - nothing could touch it. Not even an F-22 (S1000RR?).

Unfortunately, all we've got are "inferior" motorcycles, and we're trying to make do. I've seen reports on the Internet that the Skunk Works is working on a next gen version of the high speed, high altitude strategic reconnaissance aircraft: the SR-72. All we're asking for here is for the BMW Skunkworks to give us the equivalent motorcycle!

Right now I am satisfying my Need For Speed with my S1000XR. IMHO, the XR is something like an F/A-18E Super Hornet to the K1300S's Lockheed A-12. And my 1950 H-D Panhead is like a P-40B Tomahawk.

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Sport-touring has never caught on in America, but the K1300S is gone for a far simpler reason. The model life of any BMW Motorcycle is about 7 years. The K1300S came out in 2009 and went away in 2016. The R90S is gone, the K100RS is gone, the K75s is gone. It's just marketing and something similar to the K1300S will come back around one of these days. I'm 6'-5" and the GS and XR are just too tall even for me. I don't fit the S1000RR or we'd have one, chain and all. So we are the proud and happy owners of a 2015 K1300S. It will do nicely for many more years until someday we walk into a dealer for a light bulb and walk out with a new bike instead. It's been known to happen that way.

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I'd agree with you except for one point. The K1300S is basically an upgrade of the K1200S, not an entirely new model. That in effect made the design life a bit longer than the traditional one. None the less the K1300S is gone. I know better than to check the thread, but I keep hoping for meaningful discussion or a definitive answer from a reliable source that might end the wandering. Maybe a new discussion about what BMW needs to do to make the S1000XXXX a suitable replacement?
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They would need to add shaft drive, hossack front suspension and 400cc more displacement. For me to even consider it. If I have to get stuck with chain drive, then I'd buy an Aprilia Tuono 1100 V4 Factory and immediately repaint it because the stock paint is hideous. Like I said, I'm no BMW loyalist I'll go with whoever makes what I want. This is probably my first and last BMW. I doubt they will make anything like the K1300S again.
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" I'm 6'-5" and the GS and XR are just too tall even for me."
Im 6' with a 30" inseam. Crazy thing about the XR is the fork is locked unless the key is on. I can barely flat foot it, key off. Key on I can flat foot and rock it side to side. Go demo one for a couple of hours.
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I'd agree with you except for one point. The K1300S is basically an upgrade of the K1200S, not an entirely new model. That in effect made the design life a bit longer than the traditional one. None the less the K1300S is gone. I know better than to check the thread, but I keep hoping for meaningful discussion or a definitive answer from a reliable source that might end the wandering. Maybe a new discussion about what BMW needs to do to make the S1000XXXX a suitable replacement?

Ok, so the K1300S is gone, that doesn't mean we can exclude a similar bike if it ever happens, but until it does (I still live in hope) we can only speculate.
Fact..... The R1200RS is no K1300.

So.... lets discuss the possibilities for a successors from the S1000 platform.
Firstly.... can this thing be bored out to a 1200cc. Is there enough metal around the existing cylinders to do that, how far could you go.
Some say the S1000R is a bit cramped for the tall guys, is this true? Next ride out with Heapy I might steal a ride of his bike and make up my own mind.
The S1000XR is a very tall bike. I am 6foot tall with short legs, i cant flat foot it, I felt a little uncomfortable in the traffic on this bike , but I guess I could get used to it, or get a lower seat. I reakon if your under 5'10" this bike is a no go. The old K1300 is good for the short asses and the stretch dudes.

Maybe I'm repeating old posts, trying to keep the ball rolling, keen to find out about boring out a 1000.
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Ok, so the K1300S is gone, that doesn't mean we can exclude a similar bike if it ever happens, but until it does (I still live in hope) we can only speculate.
Fact..... The R1200RS is no K1300.

So.... lets discuss the possibilities for a successors from the S1000 platform.
Firstly.... can this thing be bored out to a 1200cc. Is there enough metal around the existing cylinders to do that, how far could you go.
Some say the S1000R is a bit cramped for the tall guys, is this true? Next ride out with Heapy I might steal a ride of his bike and make up my own mind.
The S1000XR is a very tall bike. I am 6foot tall with short legs, i cant flat foot it, I felt a little uncomfortable in the traffic on this bike , but I guess I could get used to it, or get a lower seat. I reakon if your under 5'10" this bike is a no go. The old K1300 is good for the short asses and the stretch dudes.

Maybe I'm repeating old posts, trying to keep the ball rolling, keen to find out about boring out a 1000.

Mat I don't know if you can bore out an S1000 engine to 1200cc but I doubt it. I think they stretched the K12 into a K13 by taking out the liners and nikasil coating the bores.

The XR is tall. I'm 5' 10" with a 32" inseam and I couldn't flat foot it with both feet - it was one or the other or both on the balls of my feet.

After 2 seasons on the XR - great bike that it is - I went back to the K13S.

And even if they could bore out the XR I wouldn't have one unless it had shaft drive.

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Mat I don't know if you can bore out an S1000 engine to 1200cc but I doubt it. I think they stretched the K12 into a K13 by taking out the liners and nikasil coating the bores.

The XR is tall. I'm 5' 10" with a 32" inseam and I couldn't flat foot it with both feet - it was one or the other or both on the balls of my feet.

After 2 seasons on the XR - great bike that it is - I went back to the K13S.

And even if they could bore out the XR I wouldn't have one unless it had shaft drive.

The XR - a hooligan's toy

The K13 - a gentleman's express

Finally, my BMW Salesman, Carter, is vindicated! He said a lot of K1300 riders who jump ship for the sporty models... come back.

It would be cool to give the other bikes a spin for a while, but not being made of money, I am sticking with the Mighty K1300S.

I remember my first riding season on the mighty one, I felt planted to the pavement, safe and secure. Now-a-days my brain wants to go faster than my reactions. I better not start pushing my luck. Then again last week I crashed off the mountain bike... wasn't even moving!

The K1300S will always be around, lurking in garages, not showrooms.
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So says the Man who's ridden a K1300S for more miles than several of us combined. Way to go Beech and congrats on your Milestone!
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Posted my transition from K1300S to S1000RR here before but can add a new twist: found out I have a dislocated disc in my neck and degenerative arthritis in my spine. Started to convince myself that the RR was killing me and would be un-rideable so I started to look at replacements. The R1200RS handled well and had some zip in 1st and 2nd but was tractor like above that. Hard to go from 12,000 rpm to rev limiter kicking in at 8-9000. Was tippy-toe on XR in show room so no go. 1600GT equivalent to USS Gerald Ford. When I finally got RR back from delayed 18,000 service during rehab of medical issues found that RR was a great fill-in physical therapy weapon: neck and shoulder pain went away. Opposite of what I had envisioned. Any further doubts about RR as a replacement for a K bike ( or any other bike in my opinion ) just ask the harlie rider who made the mistake of showing off in a long line of traffic today. As we speak, he's probably at the local BMW dealer (after stopping by the house for a change of underwear) begging for a trade in. That is if he was able to identify what it was that created the sonic boom he was enveloped in......
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In real measures, 160,000 Km, well done. Goes too show what schedule maintenance will return.

Have you had the clutch plates out, Beech?

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.... That is if he was able to identify what it was that created the sonic boom he was enveloped in......
In Colorado a couple of years ago a very dear friend rolled in on his RR from a day of tire abuse, got off, walked around to his exhaust and stared into it. I walked over and asked what was wrong. He replied, "I think I might have sucked one of those God Almighty GS's up my exhaust pipe."

And that sums up what the K1300S replacement needs to be, or better yet, what not to be. Taller? No. A twin? No. More displacement? No (adds weight.) The RR ticks all of those boxes. I have no doubt something will come along that's sort of in between the K1300S and RR. When it does we will walk in the dealership, take one look, and take her home.

Until then there will be those moments when you just look at another bike and wonder WTF ......
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Yes this really is the post that won't die. But just goes to show you that there is a whopping hole in the market for a great sports tourer. I've had my K1200R for nearly three years. At the time the basic criteria were that the bike be comfortable two-up and have realistic horsepower for easy two-up riding, and to have some sporting pretensions and hopefully to look good doing it all. Having previously worked part-time leading test rides at a dealership that sold Ducati, BMW and Harley I knew what a great bike the K1300 was and how tractable and practical it is (loved the sports Ducatis but oh the heat off the engine!). Only problem then was cost but I happened to find a very low mileage K12 with lots of extras at a good price. It's true that there is no reasonable pound for pound replacement available.
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But just goes to show you that there is a whopping hole in the market for a great sports tourer.

The 2017 Ducati Supersport speaks to this hole too. Looks like a beautiful machine. I'll probably test ride it. Seems obvious that a lot of people are fans of the sportbike look. Doesn't seem like rocket science to make one that's comfortable enough to ride all day.
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How many tires is that?
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I always felt like the VFR was a great comparable bike to the KS but jeez, it's got a styling that only a blind person could stomach.

After my shopping last year to replace my RR, I became completely convinced that the S1000R is the absolute best value in the entire BMW toy store.

And lastly, I still find myself emitting diabolical cackles every time I ride my 1290R. The 1290GT isn't the refined sports touring bike that the KS is but for grins it checks all the boxes.
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In Colorado a couple of years ago a very dear friend rolled in on his RR from a day of tire abuse, got off, walked around to his exhaust and stared into it. I walked over and asked what was wrong. He replied, "I think I might have sucked one of those God Almighty GS's up my exhaust pipe."

And that sums up what the K1300S replacement needs to be, or better yet, what not to be. Taller? No. A twin? No. More displacement? No (adds weight.) The RR ticks all of those boxes. I have no doubt something will come along that's sort of in between the K1300S and RR. When it does we will walk in the dealership, take one look, and take her home.

Until then there will be those moments when you just look at another bike and wonder WTF ......

Yep agree! Don't slam me on this one but if the F800GT had a down tuned version of the 1000RR motor in it that would be a nice middle weight sport touring machine. But until such time, long live the remainder of our k13S's.
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For me I'm perfectly happy with my K13SHP and have no intention of ever selling it so a replacement is not as important to me. If this is the last bike I own I will be happy forever.
Although your post was back awhile., I tend to agree with you The K1300SHP is perhaps the best all round machine that I have ever owned and am unlikely to part with it, least of all because of it's handling and speed capabilities. My build is #657 and I love it, my wife thinking I would bring it to bed if I could. She might be right but I like her curves much better

I will say that one thing I would like to see is a cruise control. We do have some great freeways here and as I tend to do my normal commutes on them a cruise would help As for whether I would use it all the time.. are you mad? I bought the bike to continue blasting around corners, not to go in straight lines. I love being cranked over in a corner trying to get the elusive knee down, am I right or what My riding buddy once asked why did I want a cruise and this after we had travelled some 400km south on the Hume Highway heading to Philip Island, but he was "in" a 'busa. My comment was so that my spine remained flexible and I could actually move my shoulders Old injury and long story and bike related

So the bottom line is I am very happy with my K13SHP, but like a few of you would still indulge in a few other machines, maybe a nice S1000RR could grace my garage and the ever harder to find R90S, preferably in the gorgeous Daytona Orange. Still looking for one of the original sports tourers for a reasonable price My first ever ride on a BMW, as a pillion and one wheel in the air

Have a safe ride no matter what the road brings
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GrenK1300s. I think this is what you're looking for https://www.facebook.com/groups/bmwt...03363439237013
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GrenK1300s. I think this is what you're looking for https://www.facebook.com/groups/bmwt...03363439237013

Thanks Mellermick! I will have a good look at the bike, but if it's too exy I will have no problems with the aforementioned beautiful curvy warm wife body in my bed as she will kick me out into the street - me and my toys and that's a trip way too far away for someone who loves his creature's (sorry! - lovely wife ) comforts
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