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Old 07-19-2017, 03:39 PM
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I presently have a 2002 K1200RS that I've owned since 2003. It's been (and remains) a great bike. I am looking at perhaps "upgrading" to a 2010 K1300S, primarily due to my concern of future component degradation on my RS (throttle bodies, distribution hose, etc.). However, as I am looking at purchasing from an individual, I would be taxed with the resale of the RS in, I guessing, a very limited market.

What are your thoughts (with the assumption you'd be spending your money)?

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Old 07-19-2017, 04:03 PM
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Having owned both, I'd buy the K13S as it is a wonderful bike.
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Re: Upgrade?

I'd suggest a good test ride before you pays your money to make sure the bike suits you, otherwise, have at it.
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Are the ergonomics on the K13S similar to a K12S?
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Are the ergonomics on the K13S similar to a K12S?
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Re: Upgrade?

You will love the K1300S, but it is a markedly different ride. Much more involving. Flickable, very comfortable, tons of torque, outrageous top end, great gearbox, sweet steering, tremendous brakes, ESA is no gimmick either.

As regards selling on the K1200RS, I still have mine as it's worth very little. Nobody here in the UK wants an old bus like that - they're too busy posing on race replicas, even as I sail by on the old girl, using only top gear roll-on . .

Still going strong after 20 years and when something irreplaceable does break, I will keep it as an art installation.

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Re: Upgrade?

I agree the K1300S is a fantastic motorcycle but make sure you ride one and hopefully for more than a few miles. I had a 2004 K1200GT and thought that bike was awesome as well - like others stated the K1300 is different.

I am selling my K1300S not because it is not fantastic - because the ergonomics don't work for me anymore. Now what am I going to replace it with I'm not sure - I have ridden all the S bikes - the RT1200RS my problem I kind of like them all.

Can't get myself to a GS or GSA - even though they are awesome - they are a lot of motorcycle to handle for this rider - I have a huge personality - but no so huge body build.

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I've put in 600 mile rides on the RS, as recent as this past April. I'm 6'3" and I feel I've held up fairly well on the longer rides, at age 60. I would hope to put similar time in the saddle on the S with a similar outcome.

This is somewhat akin to buying a mattress. They may feel great in the store, but not so much after 6-7 hours! DAMHIKT.
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Old 07-20-2017, 10:44 AM
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I agree the K1300S is a fantastic motorcycle but make sure you ride one and hopefully for more than a few miles. I had a 2004 K1200GT and thought that bike was awesome as well - like others stated the K1300 is different.

I am selling my K1300S not because it is not fantastic - because the ergonomics don't work for me anymore. Now what am I going to replace it with I'm not sure - I have ridden all the S bikes - the RT1200RS my problem I kind of like them all.

Can't get myself to a GS or GSA - even though they are awesome - they are a lot of motorcycle to handle for this rider - I have a huge personality - but no so huge body build.

Good luck.

S1000R or a low suspension/low seat S1000XR perhaps?
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Re: Upgrade?

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they're too busy posing on race replicas, even as I sail by on the old girl

There is an old automobile sales saying from the NASCAR crowd, "Win on Sunday, sales on Monday". Maybe a Touring Class at the Isle of Mann. It would have to include a lunch stop at mid-race.
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Maybe a Touring Class at the Isle of Man. It would have to include a lunch stop at mid-race.

Great idea :- it would also have to incorporate speed pannier packing, telling the missus 'You're NOT bringing all that crap" whist avoiding injury - and a couple of pints at
The Creg ny Baa pub . .

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Re: Upgrade?

I came from a '99 R1100S to my '11 K1300S...not a single regret! I did a 4700 mile 16 day trip on it last month and it was fabulous! The furthest day of the trip was 500 miles...no sweat. I was smiling the whole time. My riding Buddies had a Kaw C14 and BMW R1200RT on this trip...and don't we know who had the most fun on all the swervey tarmac!

Sovereign power, excellent brakes, smooth ride, low vibration, and handling good enough to enjoy switchbacks, tight or long sweeping curves.

I recommend swapping in the Rear Suspension Riser Plates and running 38 PSI Fr / 42 PSI Rr to get the most fun out of this Deutsche Uber Motorrad.
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Re: Upgrade?

I made the switch. i bought the 13s with the idea i was keeping my KRS (i have a k12s that i was going off of for ergonomics). I was lucky i ended up buying a 13s that had pegs lowered and helibars installed. the comfort was just as nice as my KRS. I have since gone back to stock bar setup but love the lowered pegs (i'm 6'6"). The power etc... is just amazing. I love the bike more than i could express. I think the KRS was definitely better on very long rides but i've done a couple 4 hour rides rest and then 4 hours back. and i was fine. I feel the vibrations are more on the 13s vs. the KRS but again not terrible.

The #1 thing i miss is the cruise control. I have a omnicruise on the 13s but it doesn't compare to the KRS cruise.

You won't regret the 13s if i had my pick i'd get a motor sports edition if you can.
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Old 07-20-2017, 02:51 PM
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As others have said, you will love the k1300s. I have owned 6 k bikes and recently bought a 2013 model. I have my 2009 Lava colored one for sale at a great price. Check the classified ads.
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Okay, I took the plunge; I found a 2014 with 600 miles on the clock. I almost tripled the mileage bringing the bike back to Florida. Some initial impressions comparing it to my RS:
- Obviously better (more) power/torque and handling.
- I like the transmission/shifter, but Iím still getting accustom with the gear shift assist.
- Indicated mileage was 45 MPG, better than the 38 +/- get on the RS.
- Better/easier low speed maneuverability (lighter/lower center of gravity). The bike seems smaller.
- The stock seat seems to be adequate. After a couple of hours, I had backside issues similar to what I do with the Sargent seat on my RS. Unfortunately, Iím afflicted with noassitol! (I did spent about 7 hours in the saddle this past Sunday.)
- REALLY miss the electronic cruise control. I bought a Go Cruise for the trip. It was like a memory trip back to the 1980's when I had a throttle lock cruise device.
- Hate the side stand. Difficult to deploy and the pad is too small.
- Build materials appear to be a thinner/cheaper quality than the RS.
I have ordered a side stand pad enlarger, center stand and the luggage grid. I havenít ridden at night yet, so Iím unsure of an HID headlight upgrade. Bottom-line itís a great bike, and a 2002 RS will be showing up in the classifieds soon!
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Congrats on the new bike!

Why don't you update your profile with more info, like name, so we know what to call you when we harass you.

Oh, and pics of the new bike, or it didn't happen.
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Here I am on the day of purchase in Memphis preparing to leave, about five minutes before the rain started.
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Great looking cycle - but you should have turned around and looked behind you. You can see it coming.
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I went east, toward the Natchez Trace Parkway and to the back of the photographer, and still found the rain.
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In attempting the luggage grid install I experienced the spinning anchors on three of the six fasteners on the grab handles. Pretty frustrating. Presently awaiting some jack nuts to replace the three spun out (actually in) factory aluminum anchors. I may shoot foam into the box frame to prevent the anchors from rattling. As someone prior said, a 15 minute job turned into a couple of hours!
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I will keep it as an art installation.


I have the same plan for my Harley!
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In attempting the luggage grid install I experienced the spinning anchors on three of the six fasteners on the grab handles. Pretty frustrating. Presently awaiting some jack nuts to replace the three spun out (actually in) factory aluminum anchors. I may shoot foam into the box frame to prevent the anchors from rattling. As someone prior said, a 15 minute job turned into a couple of hours!

I experienced something similar when working on mine. Dealer told me it was because the factory used red locktite on some of the bolts instead of blue, and they replaced the rear subframe under warranty.
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