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Old 09-25-2018, 11:07 PM
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On the road fix for Quick Disconnects

I will be traveling to try and buy a 1998-2001 K1200RS. The plan is to ride it 500+ miles home after purchase. But plastic Quick Disconnects on the fuel lines might be a problem. I don't want to ride an old bike with plastic disconnects.

First, I couldn't tell from the many posts I read, which year K1200RS had the plastic disconnects? Did any of the early bikes 1998-2001 come without disconnects?

I'd rather have a bike at home when I change the disconnects with upgraded parts, but just to get the bike home safely can I use something like this in place of the plastic disconnects?

5/16" Brass Hose Splicer from Airgas



Plan B is to buy the Beemer Boneyard quick disconnects before my trip and install them if I need them before riding home. However, if simple Splicers will work safely I'd rather do that. I don't want to buy a kit I might not need if there is a simple on-the-road fix.
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Re: On the road fix for Quick Disconnects

Should work. You’ll never get the current retainer clips off! You going to have to cut the hose on both ends and I don’t recall how much hose is remaining. If it were me. I’d have these on board, but as a just in case need and ride her home with the current QD....
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Re: On the road fix for Quick Disconnects

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Should work. You’ll never get the current retainer clips off! You going to have to cut the hose on both ends and I don’t recall how much hose is remaining. If it were me. I’d have these on board, but as a just in case need and ride her home with the current QD....
I'm with Paul, I'd carry these on your trip as a precaution, but getting off the current pressure clips is a pain in the arse. I used to travel with barbs in my tool kit just in case. That was before I actually switched them over and realized how un-fun this would be on the road.



If you cut the hose just outside the current pinch clip, I'm pretty sure that you will have enough hose left to use your barb. All that said, if you are planning to do the upgrade anyway, why not buy and carry the metal disconnects to install directly in case of issue. It's usually the same side that breaks and you would only have to fuss with one side while on the road.
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Re: On the road fix for Quick Disconnects

I'd jump on the frickin thing and ride it home. Unless of course it's leaking when you first inspect it.
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I'd jump on the frickin thing and ride it home. Unless of course it's leaking when you first inspect it.
Well, there's always that. Suppose that some of us were Boy Scouts and "Always Be Prepared" remains in the back of one's mind.


BTW Jeff, you missed a piece, let me fix it for you...

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Re: On the road fix for Quick Disconnects

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I'm with Paul, I'd carry these on your trip as a precaution, but getting off the current pressure clips is a pain in the arse. I used to travel with barbs in my tool kit just in case. That was before I actually switched them over and realized how un-fun this would be on the road.



If you cut the hose just outside the current pinch clip, I'm pretty sure that you will have enough hose left to use your barb. All that said, if you are planning to do the upgrade anyway, why not buy and carry the metal disconnects to install directly in case of issue. It's usually the same side that breaks and you would only have to fuss with one side while on the road.




I still carry a barb and two fuel line clamps in case someone at a rally needs a repair.
When I did a repair on the way to Arkansas on Deb's bike one end came off without trouble but the other end had to be cut. There's barely enough hose to cut any off.


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Re: On the road fix for Quick Disconnects

Technically.....you'd only need one QD at the fuel return line.

Disconnecting the pressure line at the fuel pump flange?A teaspoon or two of gasoline will dribble out from the tank.

I ran with barbed connectors instead of QDs for years.Disconnected lines at the tank to remove the tank?Easy but one has to quickly plug the return pipe.Never spilled more fuel that a rag under the tank couldn't catch.
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Re: On the road fix for Quick Disconnects

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I still carry a barb and two fuel line clamps in case someone at a rally needs a repair.
When I did a repair on the way to Arkansas on Deb's bike one end came off without trouble but the other end had to be cut. There's barely enough hose to cut any off.




What a great photo. Haven’t seen that one in a while. Is that a rock you’re sitting on?
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Re: On the road fix for Quick Disconnects

Had broken plastic disconnect on my R1150rt. Made temporary replacement with short length of aluminium tubing and hose clamps till I got stainless metal discconnects.
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Re: On the road fix for Quick Disconnects

Corkus, when are you planning on picking up the bike?

Forget spare parts and tools. Just get Lee to ride back with you! Lee is prepared for anything short of a complete overhaul and carries it all in a tiny bag somewhere on his bike. I am not sure about his chair. See picture above.
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Re: On the road fix for Quick Disconnects

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Is that a rock you’re sitting on?




Yep, Debbie found it and carried it over for me.
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Re: On the road fix for Quick Disconnects

Why don't you just have the seller replace the quick disconnects before you purchase the bike? Any competent mechanic should be able to switch them out if the seller doesn't want to tackle the job. Problem solved
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Why don't you just have the seller replace the quick disconnects before you purchase the bike? Any competent mechanic should be able to switch them out if the seller doesn't want to tackle the job. Problem solved

Thanks everyone for the replies. It was easy to figure out this question reading the comments. The plan is to travel 500 miles at least, look at a few bikes that fit what I'm looking for, and ride the bike back. I can't have a mechanic conveniently do this job on the road and I'm not waiting for a seller to do anything. Plus I'm hoping to be the only competent mechanic this bike ever sees.

I am going to carry the 2 brass splicers and hose clamps and as a couple of comments suggested, ride the bike back and keep a close eye out for any fuel line problems. I'll fix it right when I get it home.

I did like the aluminum tubing idea but I have the splicers.

So if I'm fortunate enough to find the right bike on this trip I could be on an RS in less than a week. And wrenching on it then too I'm sure.

I don't know about you guys, but for me, I wouldn't buy this bike without this discussion board. There is so much information and so many answers here.
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Re: On the road fix for Quick Disconnects

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Technically.....you'd only need one QD at the fuel return line.

Disconnecting the pressure line at the fuel pump flange?A teaspoon or two of gasoline will dribble out from the tank.

I ran with barbed connectors instead of QDs for years.Disconnected lines at the tank to remove the tank?Easy but one has to quickly plug the return pipe.Never spilled more fuel that a rag under the tank couldn't catch.

My 2000 did not come with disconnects. Never had a leak. I just pull the lines apart on that very rare occasion it's needed.
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Thanks everyone for the replies. It was easy to figure out this question reading the comments. The plan is to travel 500 miles at least, look at a few bikes that fit what I'm looking for, and ride the bike back. I can't have a mechanic conveniently do this job on the road and I'm not waiting for a seller to do anything. Plus I'm hoping to be the only competent mechanic this bike ever sees.
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Didn't realize you were going to look at a few different bikes, I thought you had already decided on a specific K12RS. Have fun with your search
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My 2000 did not come with disconnects. Never had a leak. I just pull the lines apart on that very rare occasion it's needed.




Thanks for posting Pete. I was thinking you said the early RSs did not have quick disconnects.
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I am going to carry the 2 brass splicers and hose clamps .




This is the type of clamp you need.
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